The PPP selling out the country

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For once I am not trolling. With Hind-sight and all that jazz that comes with reading newspaper’s these days, one might say that the PPP is single handedly selling Pakistan to the Indians and US, while receiving a slap to the face at the same time.

Musharraf obviously started this trend. It is pretty obvious he was out to make a legacy for himself. But the current PPP has done so much more. The issues on which the PPP has sold us out are strategic, economic, social and most importantly political.

Firstly if India was not a threat to Pakistan, why would the defense minister of India make the following comments:

The Hindu News Update Service

Note the date of the article. This of course is not the first such comment. Such comments have increased over time since the PPP came to power. On one hand we are being blamed for all of Indian’s terror problems and then added to that we are saying they are not our enemies. History is a lesson one must learn. Frankly Zardari not even having passed High School must have skipped that class.

The second is the issue of Kashmir. Frankly the issue has been sold down the river. We have reversed 50 years of solid legally based and legally justifiable positions for a position that India has held. We have ignored our history and the sacrifices of our people to just do whatever India says.

Then of course the Pakistan Foreign Service is being cut out of any issues discussing India. A bunch of jahils in the PPP are deciding on our Foreign policy while the men trained to do so are being ignored actively.

The third is of economic security. Opening up trade with India is not a positive development for our economy. Rather it leads to our economy contracting further. One simply needs to look at all the academic papers on trade creation and trade distortion to see that India is too large an economy for us to open trade with. We hold no comparative advantage.

Fourth is an issue of sovereignty. In the past what 7 to 8 months, we have done nothing to reassert our independence and our secure our own national interest. Yes fighting the Taliban is important, but why aren’t the proper issues addressed? US actions on our border are not to our benefit on our war against these jahils, but politically we have done nothing to correct this matter, we have not even asked for compensation. Atleast Karzai had enough balls to demand that.

Historically Benazir sold out our national interest constantly. Seems Asif Ali Zardari Bhutto is doing the same.

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Historically another ruler sold our country by playing "cricket diplomacy" and gifting Siachen to India.

Historical Blunders
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What is wrong is wrong. Doesn't matter who does it. The question is when will Pakistanis get over this sickening mentality of blaming others for actions and not take responsibility for their own?

But its good to see the Zia-Bhutto legacy is still strong in you after what 20 long years of both being dead?

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^ Just wanted to tease you. :D

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I refer you to the following video, please substitute key words for Musharraf, Zardari, Palin, Gilani and others as you feel appropriate

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/vbtube_show.php?do=tube&tubeid=327&t=298998

Roth jana
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CM, you should post most often. We need patriotic Pakistanis to step and expose the truth. This is not an issue of Bhutto, Zia, Musharraf, or Zardari but rather sovereignty and standing of Pakistan. We do see an acceleration of the disintegration of Pakistan's standing in the international community due to the weak leadership of the current government.

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CM, did you forget BB's comment regarding (handing over) AQ Khan? There were many similar statements which served assurances to special audiences what she'd do once given power. All this talk of India not a threat should not come as a surprise at all. Power is given to the one who can serve "more/better" ;)

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I would like to correct you. "SOLD OUT" is a better phrase. Not much left.

Among many other traitors that we dont know of, our PRESIDENT is an addition in those we know of (Altaf & Fazla). Now include ghaddari in this list.

If ANY Pakistani has control over the affairs of the country, they need to execute these three (known) traitors immediately and then look out for the ones who are hiding and execute them too.

That's what Pakistan needs right now. Otherwise slowly watch it disintegrating.

pak-one, zardari is no 'leadership'. It is just another addition to Pak traitors' list. The most ugly part? The 'foreign' control is so strong over Pak affairs that he was made a PRESIDENT and no Pakistani could do anything about it? That should be enough to get an idea of the grip Pakistanis have in their own country's affairs.

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yeahh...zardari must have had a revelation, when he said Kashmiri freedom fighters are terrorists...

And

"President Bush has made the world a safer place"

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I stand corrected, brother. It's damn shame that we can't even have a President that stands up for the country.

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well PPP has a long history doesnt it? they defaulted pakistan,they broke pakistan now they are selling it out. Yet we have some solid folk on board supporting PPP.What a tragic waste of time.

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I agree, but let me add the two allied parties to the list. The MQM and the ANP. While the MQM was always a bunch of sellouts, the ANP is making the same mistake which led to its demise and poor show in 2002. With the events of the present, the same exact thing is happening and expect an MMA like comeback for the Islamic parties.

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I think Govt has cleared that the said paper misquoted teh words.. now keep out of the shell...

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Zaradari has been elected in a democratic way bagging a very high percentage of votes taht represented the four provinces.. if he si still not a leader who is in Pakistan? Inherent hatred like the post represent a very very small no. of a Pakistanis!

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Degas, feel free to act like a feudal stooge. But answer the points on merit and not with rose tinted glasses on.

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It is clear you are the one who has fallen for anti-PPP propaganda.

Zardari has donea lot in the last few months to protect Pak's sovereignty, for example, making it clear to the US incursions are not acceptable, ordering troops to repel any US raids, and briefly closing down the US logistics Pak-Afghan logistics to show he meant business.

A complete contrast from the subservient Mush years, yet you post blatant falsehoods and say we should follow Karzai???????:

Fourth is an issue of sovereignty. In the past what 7 to 8 months, we have done nothing to reassert our independence and our secure our own national interest. Yes fighting the Taliban is important, but why aren't the proper issues addressed? US actions on our border are not to our benefit on our war against these jahils, but politically we have done nothing to correct this matter, we have not even asked for compensation. Atleast Karzai had enough balls to demand that.

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Anti-PPP propoganda? Sheesh. Tell me this. Has he not changed Pakistan's 50 year old stance on Kashmir? He went farther than Musharraf did and he is basically playing the Indian side now. True or False?

Zardari can't order anything in the Pakistan military. You and I both know that.

Yeah we mean business when we close down the logistic supplies and Zardari says its a mistake and when we fire on US troops he makes excuses that we fired flares. What a pathetic excuse for a leader. He has no backbone.

Answer me this - has Zardari asked for any form of compensation for the Pakistani people that have suffered at the hands of US drones? Yes or No?

Muqadar Hy, Milley Na Milley,
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True, but it currently sets the general policy.

The forceful reaction to US incursions were not in place when only Mush was in charge, not in place when only Kiyani was in charge, it has only happened under this new govt.

He said we fired flares so the situation didn't get put of control, nothing wrong with that.

As for Kashmir, the situation is the same as it was a year ago, we have not pulled back the troops, changed the LOC, etc.

PPP is not perfect, and has made mistakes, but when you blame the only party that has support in all 4 provinces of Pakistan for so many untruths, it comes across as typical anti-Bhutto propaganda.

Ab tou serkain pakki hain
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Google is your friend. I suggest you read the reaction of the military regime when it came to drone attacks.

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He said we fired flares so the situation didn't get put of control, nothing wrong with that.
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No he said, we did not fire on US troops. He directly countered the official statements of the Pakistan Military and the US Military. He lied when his own military and the US military said otherwise. There was military fire and he like a fool said, oh no that didn't happen. I sitting in New York know more. I bet Palin told him over dinner.

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As for Kashmir, the situation is the same as it was a year ago, we have not pulled back the troops, changed the LOC, etc.
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No it isn't. He has officially screwed over 50 years of sacrifices of the Pakistani people, the Kashmiri people and those who served to give the Kashmiri people independence. He has taken verbatim the Indian point of view on the Kashmir issue. You know what that stand is?

  1. Kashmir is not a core issue.
  2. Trade is more important than solving Kashmir.
  3. The UNSC resolutions do not apply.

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PPP is not perfect, and has made mistakes, but when you blame the only party that has support in all 4 provinces of Pakistan for so many untruths, it comes across as typical anti-Bhutto propaganda.
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Since when is Zardari a Bhutto? Oh wait I forgot. He as a man takes the wife's last name and her family legacy. Amazing that you in the 21st Century work on the feudal system of allegiance.

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Can you provide a link to the clarification? and what he actually meant to say?