I agree with Destinee… Influences from all around.. Yes, even girls from Pakistan do some low stuff and sometimes even go a step further. The only difference is… In Pakistan it doesn’t happen that open… I mean… All behind everyone’s back.. and no one ever gets to know about it… In the Western culture, it happens more openly.. People name it “modern”.
I personally know these girls who have got too much “freedom” -to call it like that- from their parents, or better said, from their mother. They know -for being unmarried girls- they have crossed all the limits, and it seems like they’re proud of it. I blame their mother for this, a woman who doesn’t know how to respect her own husband in front of others, can’t be any good. There are loads of girls living in western countries who do know how to repect the desi morals and values.. plus their selfrespect. So now the parents wants to get their eldest daughter married… I wonder why no one is accepting her rishta…
What concerns dressing like that… They just don’t have any sharam… Even in front of their bro and father… It’s just pathetic… yuck
Just to play devils advocate, it is not the fault of the children or the parents really. I mean when you watch TV heck even when you watch cartoons there are certain stereotypes that the children see that they must imitate. Wear a certain brand of clothing. I mean name one girl who actually does not wear hip hugging tight jeans. In geneva it was awful. Me and my friends had to go around at bars making sure the girls were legal before any one of us hit on them. But then again 16 is legal in switzerland.
You look at clothes for women, they are all certain sizes and only cut a certain way. If you want to buy clothes in line with religious or cultural obligations you have to go to the old woman's section.
Culture and society dictate a more revealing set of clothing as well as a less moralistically inclined mannerism. Blame society don't blame these kids.
Actually behind it all is style and fashion. In fact if I recall correctly..I think one of the guppans thought I was being left behind when it came to what was ‘in’ as far as clothes were concerned. Poor thing.
Anyhow everything influences how one dresses. It all comes down to values and morals. Even though I dress quite differently from my friends, its what I hold close to my heart so Im comfortable with it.
On the other hand , some individuals dont have what it takes to hold onto their values or perhaps they dont have those values to start with.
And yes you can still look good in modest clothes.
Some things to consider here.....girls of the age 14 - 17 want nothing more than to fit in. If the fashion is slutty clothes then thats what they want to wear. It really has no bearing on their cultural values or their behavior, its merely a reflection of their desire to "fit in". If I had been blessed with girl children, i would prefer my girl to go out with slutty clothes but high values....as opposed to going out in full burka and bad intention. Tolerance, understanding, acceptance but VALUES VALUES VALUES ....teach these things to your children. Then they will be ok no matter how they dress....and one day, if educated properly, they will see the importance of proper and modest dress. What better gift to give you children?
I just love this thread, however I need to see examples so please post the pictures, videos whatever you got so I can make an educated response before answering.
I like the girls that wear just a big longcoat thats it. It's easy access, no hassle drive thru service, open 24/7 365 days a yr. Now thats service.
lussi and Atlanta, by me posting this topic.. im in no way judging the intention of the girls.. im merely disappointed in their intelligence and beauty..
Ive seen this stuff happening since i was a kid.. since i was a teen.. and it didnt really bug me back then, but lately, when ive heard guys commenting on how indecent and how wrong the actions of some of these girls are… its been getting me mad…
im not judging them, im merely wanting to know, what makes them want to be this way..
b/w being open minded and accepting of differences doesnt make me lose my sharam or hayaa
just another thing i wanted to add was that, there is a difference between wearing tight/low stuff and prancing around… lots of my friends wear the tight stuff, and yeap occassionally when im not paranoid about my own body, i’ll wear it too… but these girls are not parading themselves infront of guys.. they do not have their cleavage popping out of their neck lines..
Im no way saying that girls who wear fashionable kapre are indecent.. theres a way of presenting urself that separates u from looking decent or not… neeyat tho sirf Allah Mian jaantha hai… oh well
i am sorry i dont understand this part. u r saying to ur girl that its okay to show off ur cleavage ur butts and wear tight clothing where every thing is just popping out and disregard the facts that there are perverts out there who are probably checking out ur 14 year old with bad intentions. how is ur daughter’s high values going to work here? and u can’t have high values if ur eager to wear “slutty” clothes. there is a reason y such clothes are describes as SLUTTY clothes. i dont see how wearing slutty clothes potrays having high values. u can teach ur daughter to wear not slutty clothes and still fit in and be classy rather than slutty and that to me is having high values with high self esteem, confidence and being comfortable with urself.
So you are saying those girls need to change JUST becasue “some guys” comments about their looks? Did you not tell the guys that they should not be looking at the girls?
What is wrong with “clevage popping out of their neck lines”? How and where do you draw the line or why draw the line here?
ok I think I need to clarify a bit... if I had been blessed with girl children, I would do my very best to instill the value of modest dress. And all other values which I feel are important. This needs to be tempered, however, with the culture you have chosen to raise your child in. If the current fashion is slutty clothes, you cannot send your girl child to school in burka. I had this problem, kids can be SO mean. I was a popular kid in grammar school, in the late 60/early 70s when pants on girls was a no-no.. Once I went to junior high, ALL the girls wore jeans. Except me. I wore frilly dresses. Stuck out like a sore thumb - ALL the kids made fun of me and I was an outcast till the day I graduated high school. Because of my clothes, nothing else. I am to this day very self concious of how people see me, very shy and prefer my babies, husband and computer, can do without anyone else, evfen aunt uncle etc. Because I know how very mean people can be when they see someone different. Although I have all boys, the rules are the same. I want them to fit in, wear what the others wear whether I like current fashion or not. Would I try to temper it and make it more acceptable to my values? Absolutely. But never would I make my kids a target for other kids, relatives, strangers etc. Actually, if you go looking at kidnapping prevention, this is what they tell you. DO NOT, EVER make your child different enough from the other kids that he/she feels an outcast. Kidnappers and perverts look for the kids that feel isolated, they have a talent for scoping them out. These are the things that you need to consider, sadly.
well i wrote a essay about "which women is more accetable to a men as a wife , a one who exposed or one who does not"
when i was done with my survey in conclusion i got these message from girls.
well we have to do it because guys look for sexy girls and blah blah blah.
but when i asked some of the boys and they said.
" yes we do like sexy girls but as long they fulfill our wishes and as soon they stop we don't care about them." and when i asked them which one they like to marry and they replied " one who does not expose"
ok i understand some people say who cares about hayaa but sorry mam if u are exposing then u r just telling me, u r nothing but just piece of shi******.
sirously u losse ur respect, honor, and dignity infront of the society.
i agree with u Sadzz baji/ bahi that i don't understand whats wrong with those girls even they know th truth but still.
I don’t think that the average man would like his wife or his wife to be for that matter, to be ogled at from head to toe by every passing shmuck on the on the streets. If they do, then they deserve what they get.
