The MUZLUMS are taking over!!

Hi, that was an interesting read. I went through this phase and I understand how you feel. However, I mean no harm or insult when I say this, you still are quite naive and have more to learn on the subject.

In some ways you seem to be afraid/ashamed of your own culture. You probably are not, but that is the feeling I get from your text.

Why should muslims (although really you mean to say asians) have to behave how gora want us to be? I have no issue with being westernised or even a coconut. However I dont want to do it on the terms of anyone else (irrespective or race or religion).

Its a problem that I don't think can be remedied by simply appeasing them. The problem is really the "us" and "them" mentality. That is what needs to be fixed, the little details in life of how we live is irrelevant imo.

In the end I dont want to live as a second class citizen.

good post !

Allah says:** And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.** v120 Surah Baqara

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religion is what hold us together,imay be paki, you indian,another bengali in the end we are muslims,in a foreign world we count our self as one,one continent,one people .one islam,when weare in our respecive homeland we consider our self a a muslim but a pakistani muslim,indian muslim etc.in a foreign country our culture is what binds us together,I dont think we are ready to let go of that.

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I guess I should keep quiet then XD

both thumbs up for u

jazakaullah

Guys I'm not saying we should leave Islam, Naoozobillah..

Or that we should compromise on Islamic practices.

If u read my past posts u will find that I have defended the veil and beards.

What I am saying is, where we can compromise (culture etc.) then we should.

There is nothing wrong with our ethnic culture but given the current xenophobic circumstances not compromising it will only cause more problems.

A lot of people in this country hate Islam simply because they see it as something foreign and "Paki" and we're responsible for that image.

Just as Christianity started in the Middle-East but is now European, Islam can also be equally European without compromising its values, and that would be great for Da'wah.

I knew a caucasian girl who hated Islam because it was a "Paki religion", she hated Muzlims/Pakiz because Paki yobs (our young Mirpuri brothers) gave her and her family trouble, she had no idea about the actual message or teachings of Islam...

...Anyway she said I was an exception, she asked me questions about Islam and I answered them, I told her how those yobs were Muslim in name only and not everything Muslims do should be reflected on Islam...

I told her about the Muslim concept of Allah (One, Self-Existent, Unbegotten, Unbegetting, Beyond-Comprehension, Omnipotent, Omniscient etc.) and she agreed with this and rejected the trinity right there and then...

...I told her how Islam is not just a "Paki religion" but a Chinese religion, a White Euro-Bosnian religion, a Black African religion, an Arab religion, an Indian religion... I told her about what Islam says about race and assabiyyah..

We got talking about veiling or letterboxes as she called it and I told her the reasons why women cover (modesty rather than oppression), I told her all about Islamic chastity and morality and she said she would also rather wear a veil and she defended it when another boy at work took the micky out of it.

The Islamaphobes up there might have other reasons to hate Islam such as politics but for the common man it is simply jealousy of something foreign, they hate Islam for the same reason the Jews rejected our Prophet Muhammed PBUH, because it is foreign and not "theirs"...

Islam emobodies a lot of forgotten British values such as chastity, family-bonds, respect for the elders, spirituality etc... A lot of presentday Brits are spiritually starved and they are desperately seeking to fill that void and that is why conversions to Islam are growing because it gives them what they are looking for, a lot of people who hate on Islam do so simply because they are jealous of something foreign and belonging to someone else...

The Muslim community here have been really bad ambassadors of Islam, we have tarnished it and maligned it (druggies, terrorists, gangsters, benefit-fraudsters, you name it) and Islam is not responsible for any of this but unfortunately Islam gets it even though it is our own devils...

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Also a thing which I forgot to add is we have to respect this country for what it is: a secular democracy...

There are idiots out their telling the queen to wear the burka and turn Buckingham place into a Mosque, lol, we in the Muslim community take these idiots with a pinch of salt but the right-wing facists blow this silly idiotic lil group out of proportion over-sensationalise their comments to cause Islamaphobia and paranoia.

Most Brits have actually never had a problem with us worshipping in our Mosques or peacefully preaching our religion.

What scares them is us forcing our laws/values on them, of course we wouldn't do that because it's un-Islamic as even under the Prophet PBUH's goverment the Non-Muslims had autonomy and were judged by their own Halakha's and Gospels.

This country is a secular-democracy with a Christian heritage and we have to respect this country for what it is and appreciate being allowed to live here and practice our faith with freedom and we need to tell this to our countrymen that we respect their freedoms just as we want ours respecting.

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At the end of the day it's the right-wing facists on both sides who are the problem and who mess it up for everyone, we have them too...

So returning hatred with hatred is not the answer guys, only good can defeat evil.

If someone is racist/Islamaphobic, remember your Islamic manners, try clearing their misconceptions with wisdom and beautiful preaching (do a da'wah course), if they listen fair enough, if not then don't stoop to their level and prove yourselves better.

Just be nice to everyone... Just remember the lady who threw garbage on our Prophet PBUH became Muslim in the end because of our Prophet PBUH's noble manners.

I have and I can tell you it makes no difference.

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The Muslim community here have been really bad ambassadors of Islam, we have tarnished it and maligned it (druggies, terrorists, gangsters, benefit-fraudsters, you name it) and Islam is not responsible for any of this but unfortunately Islam gets it even though it is our own devils...
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Then you need to work on fixing your neighbourhood. Help with squatting out drug activities, help rid these "terrorists", help youngsters other activities rather than standing around forming gangs and report any benefit fraudster you know. Telling the normal people to behave and to let go of their cultural identity doesn't make much sense.

If the jubba wearing guy is working hard but the ABCD is out robbing Caucasians, then why are you telling the jubba wearer to change?

Your doing the same thing as the white people are doing, your finding scapegoats. I could go on but I think you get my point.

Your other 2 posts: I agree.