Sher raised a question about The Miraj Event in a previous thread. Would anyone like to elaborate on that. I have been told from various people and scholars that journey from Mecca to Al aqsa was a spritual one and not a physcial one which most of muslims (including me ) beleive.
There are lot of things about that event which seem illogical to us if we beleive that it occured physcially. If we consider this incident from the sake of spiritual perspective then all the things relevant to that begin to make sense.
Also another point I want to raise is the validity in the celebration of Miraj as it is so commonly practiced in Muslim nations. Its not been mentioned in any of the traditons to celeberate or remember it and neither has been practised by the comapnions of Prophet :saw:
Tommy, if you read hadith, you will find that it is not a spiritual journey but a physical one. If you dont care for hadith, then thats a different issue. There are some things that happened during that journey, that the Prophet(SAW) mentioned to the detractors who didnt believe him, like things he came across, and a caravan he saw along the way (which eventually came to Makkah). If you read up on it, you will find out for yourself. smile
the fire turning cold for ibrahim (as) made sense to u????
moosa's (as) stick turning to snake seemed logical to u????
isa (as) born without a father and talking as an infant semed logical to u????
if yes, then why does it seem illogical to u that the prophet (saw) made this journey in real....
if no, then u simply dont believe that Allah is "qadir" (i.e. He has power to do anything He wills)....
It is possible - i seem to remember reading this deduction based on some hadith - that there was in fact more than one Mi'raj... some spiritual and at least one physical... maybe the spiritual ones were a preparation for the physical?...
Well... i'm reading the same hadith as you but please tell me exactly where in the hadith does it "unequivocally assert that Masjid’ul Aqsa was an actual building which existed in the time of Muhammad"?? The fact that something was once built doesn't mean it is still standing... the end of the hadith disproves your argument given that the Prophet (saw) instructed that one could pray anywhere... in other words even though only the site/ruins/foundations (or whatever) of Masjid al Aqsa remain it still constitutes a place of worship... think about it...
Wrong again... Prophet Adam (as) first built Masjid al Aqsa... Prophet Ibrahim (as) was involved in its rebuilding...
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You are taking lines from my post and using them out of context. We are not talking about Who built which Mosque, it is whether mosque existed during the time of the prophet as it says in Quran and above mentioned Hadith. And, The mosque did not exist during the time of Muhammad simply becaus there were no muslims in Jerusalem.
You are taking lines from my post and using them out of context. We are not talking about Who built which Mosque, it is whether mosque existed during the time of the prophet as it says in Quran and above mentioned Hadith. And, The mosque did not exist during the time of Muhammad simply becaus there were no muslims in Jerusalem.
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for that matter there was no mosque in mecca either at that time....
think about it....
for that matter there was no mosque in mecca either at that time....
think about it....
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Well, what is that quranic verse supposed to mean then? and also hadith
which says muhammad went to the mosque Al-aqsa before going to meet Allah in heavens.
A mosque is a place where devout servants of Allah gather to worship (no matter what they were called). Most Muslims believe that the true message of Islam has been around since the beginning of time, and many people continued to follow the authentic version. Prophet Muhammad SAW was one of these.
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*Originally posted by Sahar02: *
A mosque is a place where devout servants of Allah gather to worship (no matter what they were called). Most Muslims believe that the true message of Islam has been around since the beginning of time, and many people continued to follow the authentic version. Prophet Muhammad SAW was one of these.
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The biggest problem with this story is that the Masjid’ul Aqsa “Farthest Mosque” was built after the death of Muhammad.
When Omar conquered Jerusalem he performed a prayer in the site where Temple of Solomon used to stand. The Romans in 70 A.D destroyed that temple. Since then no temple, church or mosque stood on that spot. It was Calif ‘Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan who built the Dome of the Rock around 691 A.D. i.e 72 years after Hijrah. And Masjidu’l Aqsa was built on the Temple Mount by the end of the 7th century. This is reported in The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 46 and 102.
Muhammad’s alleged Mi’raj took place around the year 622. At that time Jerusalem was in the hands of the Christians. There were no Muslims living there and certainly there was no Mosque in Jerusalem. 53 years after the death of Muhammad, Muslims built the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa on the site where Solomon had his temple
Does ignorance and hate for ISlam have any limit for you guys?
Read:
Praise be to Allaah.
Al-Masjid al-Aqsa (in Jerusalem) was the first of the two qiblahs, and is one of the three mosques to which people may travel for the purpose of worship. And it was said that it was built by Sulaymaan (peace be upon him), as stated in Sunan al-Nasaa’i (693) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Nasaa’i. And it was said that it existed before Sulaymaan (peace be upon him) and that Sulaymaan rebuilt it; this is based on the evidence narrated in al-Saheehayn from Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: “I said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, which mosque was built on earth first?’ He said, ‘Al-Masjid al-Haraam [in Makkah].’ I said, ‘Then which?’ He said, ‘Al-Masjid al-Aqsa.’ I said, ‘How much time was there between them?’ He said, ‘Forty years. So wherever you are when the time for prayer comes, pray, for that is the best thing to do.’”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3366; Muslim, 520.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was taken on the Night Journey (isra’) to Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem), where he led the Prophets in prayer in this blessed mosque.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allaah) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him]
Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al‑Masjid Al‑Haraam (at Makkah) to Al‑Masjid Al‑Aqsaa (in Jerusalem), the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, etc.). Verily, He is the All‑Hearer, the All‑Seer”
[al-Isra’ 17:1]
The Dome of the Rock was built by the caliph ‘Abd al-Malik ibn Marwaan in 72 AH.
It says in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Filasteeniyyah (4/203): “The name al-Masjid al-Aqsa was historically applied to the entire sanctuary (al-Haram al-Shareef) and the buildings in it, the most important of which is the Dome of the Rock which was built by ‘Abd al-Malik ibn Marwaan in 72 AH/691 CE, which is regarded as one of the greatest Islamic historical buildings. But today the name is applied to the great mosque which is situated in the southern part of the sanctuary plateau.”
It also says in al-Mawsoo’ah (3/23): “The Dome of the Rock is situated in the middle of the plateau of al-Masjid al-Aqsa, which is in the southeastern part of the city of al-Quds (Jerusalem). It is a spacious rectangular plateau which measures 480 meters from north to south, and 300 meters from east to west. This plateau occupies approximately one-fifth of the area of the Old City of Jerusalem.
The mosque which is the place of prayer is not the Dome of the Rock, but because pictures of the Dome are so widespread, many Muslims think when they see it that this is the mosque. This is not in fact the case. The Mosque is situated in the southern portion of the plateau, and the Dome is built on the raised rock that is situated in the middle of the plateau.
We have already seen above that the name of the mosque was historically applied to the whole plateau.
This is supported by the words of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Majmoo’at al-Rasaa’il al-Kubra, 2/61: “Al-Masjid al-Aqsa is the name for the whole of the place of worship built by Sulaymaan (peace be upon him). Some people started to give the name of al-Aqsa to the prayer-place which was built by ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab in front of it. Praying in this prayer-place which ‘Umar built for the Muslims is better than praying in the rest of the mosque, because when ‘Umar conquered Jerusalem there was a huge garbage dump on the rock, since the Christians wanted to show their scorn for the place towards which the Jews used to pray. So ‘Umar issued orders that the filth be removed and he said to Ka’b: ‘Where do you think we should build a place of prayer for the Muslims?’ He said, ‘Behind the rock.’ He said, ‘O you son of a Jewish woman! Are influenced by your Jewish ideas! Rather I will build it in front of it.’
Hence when the imams of this ummah entered the mosque, they would go and pray in the prayer-place that was built by ‘Umar. With regard to the Rock, neither ‘Umar nor any of the Sahaabah prayed there, and there was no dome over it during the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs. It was open to the sky during the caliphate of ‘Umar, ‘Uthmaan, ‘Ali, Mu’aawiyah, Yazeed and Marwaan… The scholars among the Sahaabah and those who followed them in truth did not venerate the rock because it was an abrogated qiblah… rather it was venerated by the Jews and some of the Christians.”
The biggest problem with this story is that the Masjid’ul Aqsa “Farthest Mosque” was built after the death of Muhammad.
When Omar conquered Jerusalem he performed a prayer in the site where Temple of Solomon used to stand. The Romans in 70 A.D destroyed that temple. Since then no temple, church or mosque stood on that spot. It was Calif ‘Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan who built the Dome of the Rock around 691 A.D. i.e 72 years after Hijrah. And Masjidu’l Aqsa was built on the Temple Mount by the end of the 7th century. This is reported in The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 46 and 102.
Muhammad’s alleged Mi’raj took place around the year 622. At that time Jerusalem was in the hands of the Christians. There were no Muslims living there and certainly there was no Mosque in Jerusalem. 53 years after the death of Muhammad, Muslims built the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa on the site where Solomon had his temple
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What you are calling "Temple of Solomon" is referred as Masjid Al-Aqsa. So it is same .
The first Temple of Prophet Solomon was built in Jerusalem (so it is believed), having already been chosen by Allah as a sacred city. It is worth mentioning here that he (Sulaiman, pbuh) reigned from 963 – 923 BCE, some 900 years after the time of Abraham (Ibrahim, pbuh).
Subsequently, the first Temple of Solomon was completely destroyed in 586 BCE, with the capture of Jerusalem and the exile of the Jews to Babylon. Later, they were allowed to return and they rebuilt the Temple. However, in the first Jewish revolt, this second Temple was desecrated and totally destroyed between 66 – 70 CE, which is considered the beginning of the Diaspora, or dispersion of Jews. During the second Jewish revolt 132 - 135 CE, Jerusalem was annihilated and the Jews dispersed. Subsequently, the site fell into disuse. So much so, that when `Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) prayed there, he started to collect the rubbish that had accumulated and Muslims helped him to clean up the site.
To conclude, there is one site, known as Beit-al-Maqdis. Allah (swt) chose it to be a sacred site. It is the second sacred site and was the first qibla. Prophet Abraham (pbuh) migrated to this land around 1805 BCE. The Qur’an says:
But We delivered him and (his nephew) Lut (and directed them) to the land which We have blessed for the nations.
Surah 21 Verse 71
Remember Prophet Abraham (pbuh) was neither a Jew nor a Christian. Prophet Moses (Musa, pbuh) was not sent until the 13th century BCE. As for Prophet David (Daud, pbuh) he moved his capital to Jerusalem in 995 BCE while his son, Prophet Solomon (Sulaiman, pbuh) ruled from 963 – 923 BCE.
Then, in 586 BCE came the destruction of the Temple of Solomon and the captivity of the Jews in Babylon. They were then allowed to return some 45 years later and they rebuilt the Temple of Solomon (known as the Second Temple). The Romans destroyed this Second Temple, during the first Jewish revolt 66 -70. It is not until the conquest of Jerusalem in 636 CE by the Muslims, when Umar led the prayer at this site. Subsequently, al-Masjid al-Aqsa, the Dome of the Rock and Masjid-i-Umar are all erected on the sacred site of Beit-al-Maqdis. Everyone praying on this site follows the imam (leader in prayer), who is leading the prayer in al-Masjid-al-Aqsa.
Orthodox Jews now call for the destruction of the Mosques, built on the site to rebuild the Temple. However, there is no proof that the Temple, mentioned above, was built on that very same site. In fact, archeology has provided no evidence for that either. Even if this is ever to be proven, it does not give any legacy to destroy the Mosques, as Muslims never destroyed any sacred place, in order to build these Mosques!
Muslims ruled the city of Jerusalem with justice and gave freedom of faith and pilgrimage to all faiths. It was only during the Crusades that the city witnessed brutal violation of such rights, by the Crusaders, who killed many Arab Christians as well!
After the establishment of the Zionist state of Israel, Jews’ myths about them being the chosen people, the land being theirs and the story of the Temple was revived. This was in order to claim right over the whole of Jerusalem, when they started planning to destroy the Muslim sites there.
It is worth mentioning that Muslims consider Abraham to be a Muslim prophet, as Islam is defined as submission to God. All prophets are considered bearers of the same message of monotheism and justice. Thus, any Jewish claim has no base, except in their own interpretation, which cannot be a base for solid positions, according to measures of international law.
Source…](http://www.islamonline.net/askaboutislam/display.asp?hquestionID=3524 )
1- If Masjid AQSA was physically there than Meraj was physical.
2- If all the prophets AS were there physically than meraj was physicall.
3- If all the prophet met hazoor SAW were phyccally there than meraj was physical.
4- If the horse Hazoor rode for merag was physical than meraj was physical.
5- If that OLD lady who offered milk to hazoor was physically there than meraj was physical.
Hey Sher, instead of reading from a christian website and defaming Islam, do some of your own research.
The Arabic word “Masjid”, which means Mosque or Temple, is derived from the root word “Sujood”, which means Prostration. A Masjid does not have to be a building decorated with arts and standing on strong pillars. It can be an area of worship where it is surrounded by boundaries; whether it is small walls or stones gathered by men. So it is quite possible that since the area where the modern “Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa” is located in is believed to be the place where the Temple of Solomon was built in, that the Jews used to gather together and do their Prayers and Prostrations to GOD Almighty there. That area can be technically called a Temple or Mosque; a place of Prostration.
That is why “Qubbat Al-Sakhra”, which is the building with the golden dome top, was built. It is strongly believed that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him had set his foot on that land before he was taken up to Heaven and sent back. It was an open land. So to preserve that holy site, the Muslims decided to build Qubbat Al-Sakhra near the Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa. This should prove my theory that the area where the Temple of Solomon was believed to be built in was really an open area that was dedicated for worship. That area was called Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa, which means the Farthest Mosque.
So technically, there is no error in the Noble Quran’s claims regarding this matter.
