The Man's experience in Rishta Hunting

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So who's stopping you from getting husbands who are easier to control?

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I know who you're perfect match is on GS. I can see from both your posts you would get along well :)

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This consept is so stupid, but its exactly the reason why a lot of guys go back home. they and there mom's think ok we will get a girl who will obey us. I have seen really good girls, like they would never fimd someone with that much patience, respect here. HOWEVER, like 90% of them, after they have a kid or a few years after marrage, they get control of everything. The girls in Pakistan are really smart when it comes to home politics. The problem with us in the US/Europe is that majority of us have careers, and we don't have allday to think and plan like a house wife can or a girl from Pakistani (majority) can. Also, they have dramas and all these things which really teach a lot. We have family guy and modern family.

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Err because we might not want husbands who are 'easier to control'..

A lot of us girls actually like equal partners to make joint decisions with rather than a person who needs to be controlled or obedient..

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I'm not bitter because neither am I from the west and nor did I get imported from back home. These are just my social observations, things I've heard aunties say.
And if u notice I'm not on anyone's "side" because in one post im saying that girls living in the west do more housework as a whole and in the other post I said that girls coming from back home are easier to "control", so yes these are my observations u may choose to agree or not.

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Nothing's stopping me I might have tried looking if that was what I wanted in the first place. But honestly speaking where would my husband have found a girl who was western educated but not settled there, an engineer who wouldnt pursue a career because she would have to move to Saudia after having lived in Dubai all her life, accepting her fate that she's not allowed to drive or go out alone (because of the damn laws and social norms), and be a housewife/ stay at home mom. U find me a girl who has lived in the west all her life willing to move to Saudia for good.

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Girls abroad don't import grooms from back home because generally speaking, Pakistani guys (everywhere) want to have the upper hand in a marriage. This certainly doesn't apply in every case but it is true in many peoples' experience.

I have considered sponsoring a guy from Pakistan. So let me explain the thought process:

Potential pros of importing a groom from Pakistan:
- larger pool to choose from
- traditional (in a good way)
- non-experienced (or not as experienced as compared to the guys in the west) in the dating/relationship scene
- shareef, good family
- knows about and follows Islam and Pakistani culture (western born and bred guys can be very anti-Pakistan)

Potential cons of importing a groom from Pakistan:
- Lengthy sponsorship process
- Difficult to get to know him and his family when both parties live worlds apart
- There is no guarantee he will be shareef, bhola bhaala, virgin, traditional, practicing Muslim etc.
- He may have many objections to the western culture/dress code/social interactions/female independence/etc once he experiences the lifestyle here
- He may not be willing to treat the girl equally/fairly and help her out in the house
- He may object to the girl's family "interfering" too much when in reality, the girl's family just wants to help make his transition easier
- He may need to upgrade his studies
- He may not speak English very well
- He may have to wait a long time to find a decent job in his field
(^ despite not having a job, he may be against family planning)
- He may have a huge ego and insecurity issues, so he might react negatively to being sponsored and being dependent on the girl (initially) for financial and emotional support
- He may be using the girl for nationality and not really sincere to her
- He may not adjust well to life abroad, especially if he comes from a family where they had a family business/estate and he was "managing" that (waking up when he wants, yelling at his subordinates, leaving work when he wants or sometimes not even going to work) as opposed to being employed and working under someone.
- There is a chance, at some point, he might want to move back home permanently

A couple of my girl friends went the sponsorship route over the last couple years. Three of them sponsored their cousin and got a divorce within the first couple years of him coming here. One of them had just found out she was pregnant when the divorce papers came and she decided to abort the baby.
Three other friends got married in Pakistan and sponsored the guy. They all are doing well mashallah, but when my mom talks to their mom, they always hint that it is a huge adjustment and the guys from there expect VIP treatment after coming here. So you have an unemployed ghar jamaai who sits on his behind all day long and when the wifey comes home from work, he will ask her to get him a glass of water or ask him how his day was instead of it being the other way around.

Again, I'm in no way suggesting that this applies to everyone. I'm just sharing my experience and what I've seen in my circle. I did initially consider guys from Pakistan and I found these "stories" that I had heard to be very applicable in my cases. The guys that I talked to, they think Allah made them "man" therefore everyone should bow down to them. And even though they can't wait to get out of Pakistan, their perception of the west (and Pakistani girls in the west) is very negative.

Their motive is to go abroad, earn lots of money and sponsor the rest of their family but they don't necessarily respect their wife and her lifestyle and her family's struggles... in their heart, they believe girls in Pakistan are the best and had they been willing to put up with the crappy system in Pakistan, they could've scored a better deal in terms of prettier/tamer/more obedient wife...regardless of what they have to offer in return.

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^ pretty much what I've seen too.

The Man's experience in Rishta Hunting

oh boy been waiting for this topic to be started :D

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Oh no! If this is gonna go into that can we at least start a new thread?

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and whats so difficult in finding a guy in your own kind..i mean ABCDs etc??

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Don't you read PCG's blogs? She is exclusively looking in her own kind, whatever that is.

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LMAO

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I've had the same experience that Madz describes with these guys, but truthfully, I have not spoken to THAT many guys from Pakistan. I usually ask them why they're looking for a bride in America when they live in Pakistan, and the response to that usually is enough. And since they're in Pakistan, I usually just have a conversation over email, and baat never gets to the phone, because just by what they write, they make themselves look like adequate idiots who are too greedy and anxious to get on American shores to make money, but meanwhile America is vile to them.

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but the same happens with the ABCD guys right? they are also equally retarded

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Madz summed it up pretty well. one of the couples that broke up... the guy's complaint was that his inlaws hadn't gifted him a car!!! apparently a furnished apartment wasn't enough... bey-ghairat loug... goodness if you're only using the girl to get a citizenship, at least have decency to not get her pregnant... which he did :(

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Madz124 potential cons and Pinks examples are Perfect examples of loads of rishta's Ive seen where the groom has been imported.

Also can I just add from examples I have seen where guys are not imported but here on study visas and somehow managed to stay long enough to get citizenship, their mentality is still of one that that he is the 'man' so not allowed to touch any dirty dishes and expects wife to work and keep the house and kids in pristine condition and any money she earns is theirs but any money he earns is only for food and the rest is for his parents and siblings back home cus if he doesn't send enough to satisfy their desires he gets cussed. She cant leave her job cus she knws her kids will miss out on so many things she currently pays for them including money for tuition. Meanwhile his mother is on the phone 24/7 telling him to move on to the next one he can plunder. This btw is my own cousins example. Bechari is now considering divorce bcus it has got to the point of physical violence.

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Well I thought many times to look for potential rishta in France and Canada (as I have to divide my time between each country every year) on my own but the main thing that stopped me from pursuing it is the fact that I do not have nationality of either place and if I don't get a job after my PhD then I will have to go back to Pakistan, which will be a big problem for any NRP girl. I believe majority of NRP girls will not be willing to settle in Pakistan even if situation demands.

Another issue which Madz124 also highlighted in her points is the fact that NRPs are always suspicious of a person not having nationality as "someone looking to use their daughter to get nationality". Although it is true and I've witnessed it many times but not everyone is like this, we all know of success stories as well.

Because of these two things I've never reached out or actively pursued this idea. Anyways it seems if I do settle here eventually then I'll be another guy with imported bride.

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The problems highlighted about imported groom in previous replies are more prevalent in cousin marriages, in my opinion.

Since childhood guys know that they will tie the knot with their "chachay or mamay ki beti" who lives in UK/USA etc. so they develop this mentality of having the same type of wife which they see their brothers/cousins/friends have in Pakistan. The desi obedient wife (and unknown to them quite manipulative as well). Once this idea seeps into the mind then they will do everything to make sure they that get that kind of wife and then one thing leads to another.

Thinking that their financial future is now secure because the chacha/mama will make it sure, is also prevalent. Thats why people should avoid cousin marriages or least giving them the idea when they are 5 year old. I know lots of guys who were not good in studies, have no sense of marriage and issues associated with it and do nothing in Pakistan except strolling outside girls colleges but in summer their relatives come from abroad with their daughters, get them married and then new era begins.

Also I think majority of such horror cases are from UK, where a special breed of Pakistanis/Mirpuris lives.

And how much problems these relatives create for other people when they come for backhome marriages is a great social issue . This summer a family I know went from USA to get their son married to his cousin in my village in AJK. Doing so they set the record for paying haq mahr of Rs. 2 million and 20 tola jewellery in my village. Now they are rich, they have the cash and other shiny credentials but setting such precedences creates social problems, consider if a local guy marries her sister now how much pressure he will have to match the figures.