Re: The Lost war of Cultural and Social Values
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Actually the purpose of thread itself is redundant. we are already into fake medicine to fake degrees, lying, blatant lying, electricity theft. I think majority of these stars are not into these type of offences
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Actually the purpose of thread itself is redundant. we are already into fake medicine to fake degrees, lying, blatant lying, electricity theft. I think majority of these stars are not into these type of offences
I know some of those are involved in tax evasion. Page 3 politics require most of the qualities mentioned in your post :)
My point was we have developed many stock phrases which facilitate deviation of social values in first instance and gradually they become part of our culture. If not to the extent of adapting such acts by common men, then by keeping mum to get label of cool and liberal. Coolness and liberalism is unfortunately now comes with shock value.
The interesting part of this game is that these same stars know that they are doing what is not acceptable in society and they can't display this show at public places or even at their home in front of family members. Back in 80s, when dupatta policy of Zia was enforced, some celebrities like Mehtab Akbar Rashdi didn't follow it by saying ' we don't follow this at home, and why should we do it on government's orders'. Those people earned respect, as they were not hypocrites like today's lot.
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To me, Pakistani celebrity culture is a painful decline of aestheticism. Cultural values on one side, stylistically speaking, these celebrities and their dressing is always an absolute eyesore. I don't understand why these women feel the urge to turn up on the red carpet looking like prom queens from the class of noughties, when Pakistani designers put breathtakingly beautiful and absolute masterpieces of Eastern dresses on the ramp? It's like Charlize Theron deciding to wear a sack from Urban Outfitters over Dior Haute Couture for the Oscars. The country has such a profound, rich, sophisticated and deeply diverse artisan culture and these celebrities think they look 'cool' by dressing up like Bollywood backup dancers. Yes Aysha Omar, I'm looking at you.
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I know some of those are involved in tax evasion. Page 3 politics require most of the qualities mentioned in your post :)
My point was we have developed many stock phrases which facilitate deviation of social values in first instance and gradually they become part of our culture. If not to the extent of adapting such acts by common men, then by keeping mum to get label of cool and liberal. Coolness and liberalism is unfortunately now comes with shock value.
The interesting part of this game is that these same stars know that they are doing what is not acceptable in society and they can display this show at public places or even at their home in front of family members. Back in 80s, when dupatta policy of Zia was enforced, some celebrities like Mehtab Akbar Rashdi didn't follow it by saying ' we don't follow this at home, and why should we do it on government's orders'. Those people earned respect, as they were not hypocrites like today's lot.
Unfortunately Muqawwee, the people who pass as 'liberals' in Pakistan are actually the most bigoted breed. Treat this as an outsider's view. It pains me to think how liberalism in Pakistan has become synonymous with skin show and accented English. It's nothing but just a feel good culture of mindless critique of anything that's below and different from you. That kind of thinking really is an insult to truly liberal values.
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A lot of the desi attire is and was probably breaking a lot of the Islamic ruling. Just a few short years ago it was a big trend to have short "chaak" on top of short, very tight shirts, and tight pajamas in lieu of shalwars. That trend btw was also very common in the 60's and 70's. Lawns are absolutely thin to the extend that they can easily be see through. Capri pants/shalwars/pajamas were/are in, and when sitting those capris easily ride to the mid-shin length. However I never see anyone condemning those trends and instead justify them in retarded ways.
I thought girls were obvlivious to all that and its 'implications' :/
Being all masoom, doing their own thing, following the trend, dressing up for themselves and all the bla bla that goes along with it.
But it seems girls do know exactly what they are doing and why.
On topic. Culture is always evolving and plain criticism doesn't stop the direction its going into.
People are resorting to all sorts of ways to get what they want through short cuts. Same is with celebs/media.
Its rather easy to act slutty and churn out another themed adultery drama; than excelling at acting or quality story.
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I thought girls were obvlivious to all that and its 'implications' :/ Being all masoom, doing their own thing, following the trend, dressing up for themselves and all the bla bla that goes along with it.
But it seems girls do know exactly what they are doing and why.
On topic. Culture is always evolving and plain criticism doesn't stop the direction its going into. People are resorting to all sorts of ways to get what they want through short cuts. Same is with celebs/media.
Its rather easy to act slutty and churn out another themed adultery drama; than excelling at acting or quality story.
But there are actresses with revealing clothes who always did naik parveen type roles on TV. I don't want to name particular actress, she was bragging about her spirituality after she worked in one of the project revolving around tasawwuf.
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They are 'show'biz yaar. Why so hard on them? This what they been doing for so long. If anything, we need to educate/improve our awaams mental health. And may be to develop some code of conduct for tv channels. These people will go as far as they are allowed; you can't really hold them to standards of morality that common people adhere to.
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In my opinion, elegance, sophistication and class comes from within especially when it comes to dressing. I remember the the dress of Leila Hatami, the Iranian star of the 2012 Academy winning film ‘A Separation’ was the talk of the town in her pale blue gown. She looked so feminine, so delicate and radiant. All Western fashion editors and critics and industry insiders loved her dress and the way she carried her self. Her dress despite all the conservatism and cultural practices it embodied was more memorable and praised than sleeveless kameez or whatever it was that Sharmeen Obaid was wearing, for the same event.. So stylish people are stylish people at the end of the day, and style is effortless. Sadly none of these Arabs and Pakistani celebrities can be called stylish no matter how hard they try. And it’s a real shame considering Pakistani Cities have amazing street style!
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Culture will change and its direction cannot be stopped, so some five decades after entire outfits will be different, like my hubby wears his dhoti only on religious ceremony which is grandfather wore daily :)
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