Aisha r.a. would never tell a lie either. She had been defended by the Quran also. Yet Shias curse her day and night, and then you're asking me who is cursing who?
Aisha did actually to the Prophet (SAW) along with Hafsa and they were reprimanded by Allah in Surah Tahreem verse 4.
Please don't come back and tell me it wasn't the two of them since it is written all over in Ahle Sunnah Text.
Sahih al Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 437:
"Narrated Ibn Abbas: I intended to ask 'Umar about those two ladies who back each other against 'Allah's Apostle . For one year I was seeking the opportunity to ask this question, but in vain, until once when I accompanied him for Hajj. While we were in Zahran, 'Umar went to answer the call of nature and told me to follow him with some water for ablution. So I followed him with a container of water and started pouring water for him. I found it a good opportunity to ask him, so I said, "O chief of the Believers! Who were those two ladies who had backed each other (against the Prophet)?" Before I could complete my question, he replied, "They were 'Aisha and Hafsa."
can people please stop hijacking my thread? brother pysch, can you please remove off-topic comments, i.e. who is in included Ahl al-Bayat, what our mothers (radiAllahu anhuma) suppose to do, etc.?
did Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) give her (radiAllahu anha) this gift in secret that only handful people knew that it was under her possession?
why did the ruler try to take it over?
your argument to appeal to emotions is absurd. Just because she has been told as mistress of paradise, doesn’t mean she is not obliged to follow the sharee’ah. In sharee’ah witnesses are required to claim that a property is yours, etc., regardless of who you are. You want people to abandon sharee’ah just because of who she was? If such is the case, why don’t you issue the same fatawa on Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) when he said that he would cut the hand of a theif even if it was Fatima (radiAllahu anha)?
why were those witnesses not accpeted?
regarding bolded part, I thought this was the whole point of ruler taking over this land and demanding her to prodce witnesses? Khayr, why did she ask for inheritance when it was gifted to her? Why did she step back from what was her right? No true believer would do that, let alone Fatima (radiAllahu anha) or any other sahabi. So who is insulting her, Ahlus Sunnah or shia? Why do shias only make big fuss about Fatima (radiAllahu anha) not getting this inheritance? What about other daughters of the Prophet (sal-allahu alayhi wa salam) and his wives, specifically Aishah (radiAllahu anha)? Didn’t they deserve this inheritance? Why don’t shais defend them?
ok; was she aware of that hadith? Does that hadith exist? If not, so the ruler was a liar as he fabricated a hadith, yes or not? Can you please quote those verses?
ok, i don’t know what incidents you’re talking about but I would take your words for now for the sake of argument.
Is this the mark of a believer, being angry with your fellow believer in religion? Is this the legacy she (radiAllahu anha) left behind according to your belief? Allah Ta’ala tells us in the Qur’an that forgive people if we want Allah Ta’ala to forgive us and the ahadith are clear about not cutting the ties of kinship with a believer for more than 3 days. Who is insulting her: Ahlus Sunnah or shia?
All you have done is insulted Ahl al-Bayat and other sahabas. Allah Ta’ala tells us in the Qur’an that he is pleased with all of the sahabas, but you deny those ayaat and ask us to choose between one of them: Ahl al-Bayat or other Sahabas. To you shias, the events do not matter; what matters is who is the victim. If we just switch the names, Abou Bakr with Ali and Fatima with Aishah (may Allah be pleased with them), your whole argument will change. You would then say Aishah was rebellious as she argued and demanded something from the khalifa. You see the problem is in the mind set; not much about the issues or what happened.
Syeda Fatima (as) is honoured in the Quran like no other woman from the Ummat of our Prophet (saww). She is undoubtably part of the Ahulul Bayt (as) and both Shias and Sunnis agree on this. Their unconditional love is demanded by the Prophet in Hadith Saqalain and by Allah himself in the verse of Muwaddat (42:23).
Hazrat Ayesha (ra) was one of the wives of the Prophet and is thus the honor of being among the special women who were called Ummul Momineen or the Mother of the believers. However Quran has also promised them greater chastiment should they disobey the Prophet or Allah (swt). Allah (swt) has ordered them to stay lowered inside their houses. They are to be respected but not followed unlike the order to follow for Fatima Zahra (as).
Aisha did actually to the Prophet (SAW) along with Hafsa and they were reprimanded by Allah in Surah Tahreem verse 4.
what and why did they do and please explain us the WHOLE incident? and why are you cherry picking to suite your agenda? Why do you want us to pick between Ahl al-Bayat or the other sahabas when Allah Ta'ala says in the Qur'an that He is pleased with all of them?
i think this issue has just spilled more ink than any other in islamic history
at worst harsh words were exchanged between some sahaba ,( not all sahaba got along well with each other they were afterall human)
NO blood was spilt , no wars fought over it , no lasting conflicts developed from it
however this event is totally seperate in nature from events like those that developed in reign of uthman which led to 2 civil wars ...those events do deserve to be debated and analyzed
what and why did they do and please explain us the WHOLE incident? and why are you cherry picking to suite your agenda? Why do you want us to pick between Ahl al-Bayat or the other sahabas when Allah Ta'ala says in the Qur'an that He is pleased with all of them?
I have a Quran with translation and Tafseer by Yousuf Ali, who is from Ahle-Sunnat. It states so in addition to ahadees of which I quoted.
You made an argument and I refuted it with evidence. Its called rebuttal, not cherry picking.
Please tell me where it says that Allah is pleased with all the Sahaba's since that will negate Surah -e- Munafaqoon
I have a Quran with translation and Tafseer by Yousuf Ali, who is from Ahle-Sunnat. It states so in addition to ahadees of which I quoted.
do you even bother reading what people say? I said what did Hafsa and Aishah (radiAllahu anhuma) do to Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) and why they do it!? Did I even argue about lack of evidences regarding your point?
You made an argument and I refuted it with evidence. Its called rebuttal, not cherry picking.
do you even listen to yourself? When did I argue about Aishah or Hafsa (radiAllahu anhuma) that you responded to me or so called "refutation"? I asked about the issue of fadak and like always you had nothing valuable to add to thread except off-topic irrelevant responses. You're cherry picking because you want everyone to hold certain belief about our two mothers (may Allah be pleased with them) based on an issue between husband and his wives, and discard all the good they did for Islam. That's why I've said, it doesn't matter to you what are the events or issues, rather what matters to you is who is the criminal and victim in your sight.
Please tell me where it says that Allah is pleased with all the Sahaba's since that will negate Surah -e- Munafaqoon
read the definition of sahabas. Were those sahabas who migrated from Makkah manafiqoon? Were those sahabas who participated in badr munfiqoon?
Answer my question: why do you want us to pick between Ahl al-Bayat and other sahabas?
There is an amusing contradiction in your question, either a thing can be secret * or can be infront of people whether handful. And a gift is not done in front of a crowd but if you are aware of the process of gift it is done in front of at least two people. Anyhow, the witnesses were produced to back up her claim but they were not accepted on one pretext or the other.
Now this is a question which is the rift between the two schools. The first and the formost reasons [in collaboration with others] appear for the act of the ruler is the hatred he bored towards Ahlulbayt [as], that was just done to hurt them, prophet [s] had already predicted that after his death, his household was going to face injustice. The second reason was that the amount that was to be received from that huge land was also handsome, the ruler was able to make his government on the basis of that money, making a number of people stand by his side.
Firstly, do you want to say that Allah [swt] has given the highest rank of paradise [for women] to Fatima Zahra [as] yet she can tell a lie? The thing is, that the status granted to her by Allah is itself sufficient to know her truth. Anyhow, this has to do with spritual aspect.
Coming to the practical, she was obviously adhering to the Sharia and it was her opponent who was were not. Who had given right to the ruler to ask witnesses from her? If you are ware of law, then if a property is under the possession of A, and today you stand up to claim your right to that propherty, it is you who will have to bring witnesses not A.
Its answer is quite similar to my answer no 2 above.
You have been too quick to declare Faimta Zahra [as] as ‘no true believer’ just because to save a person who happened to be your caliph but anyhow. It was totally correct on her part to demand her right of inheritance, or you will now say that no one has any right to get his/her share of inheritance??? When the ruler was adamant on one pretext or the other not to usurp the property which was her and to make him embarrassed in front of world, she still have the right to claim the land by way of inheritance. Whats big deal about it? By this way or that way, she was proving that the lad was her and her opponent was committing injustice but depriving of her right.
As for your question why do Shias make big fuss about Fatima Zahra [sa] not getting inheritance, I would in fact like to ask you, that why don’t you make big fuss over the incident which deprived her of the right if you ‘claim’ to love and adhere to Ahlulbayt [as]?
To us, since we adhere to Ahlulbayt [as], it is our duty to share both grief and happiness of Ahlulbayt [as]. When she was tormented to this extent that made her angry and died in the very state of anger, we as followers of Ahlulbayt [as] cant just ignore this incident.
As for your comment on the wives of Prophet [s], I don’t think you are yourself clear on the question but still I would like to inform that you the biased treatment done by the ruler towards Fatima Zahra [sa], same was not done with the wivies of Prophet [s], their houses were not broken into to check if they had any material things left by Prophet [s] while this happened with Fatima Zahra [sa], the wives of Prophet were not deprived of the apartments that were left behind Prophet [s] nor any witness was demanded from them yet this was done when ti came to the right of Fatima Zahra [sa]. Yet you ask us why shall we not ‘make a big fuss’ about the tragedy.
Verses where Quran clearly stated that prophets do leave inheritance are:
And Solomon was David’s heir. He said: “O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed (a little) of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)”
Al-Qur’an, Surah 27, Ayah 16
Saying: My Lord! Lo! the bones of me wax feeble and my head is shining with grey hair, and I have never been unblest in prayer to Thee, my Lord. Lo! I fear my kinsfolk after me, since my wife is barren. Oh, give me from Thy presence a successor. Who shall inherit of me and inherit (also) of the house of Jacob. And make him, my Lord, acceptable (unto Thee).
Al-Qur’an, Surah 19, Ayah 4-6
“And Zakariyya, when he cried to his Lord: ‘O my Lord, leave me not childless, though Thou art the best of inheritors.’ So we responded to him and gave him Yahya.” (21: 89,90)"
And (further) their Prophet said to them: “A Sign of His authority is that there shall come to you the Ark of the covenant, with (an assurance) therein of security from your Lord, and the relics left by the family of Moses and the family of Aaron, carried by angels. In this is a symbol for you if ye indeed have faith.”
Al-Qur’an, Surah 2, Ayah 248
“And Zakariyya, when he cried to his Lord: ‘O my Lord, leave me not childless, though Thou art the best of inheritors.’ So we responded to him and gave him Yahya.” (21: 89,90)
No do not trust me dear, trust on the precise source i.e. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 848: Book of Witnesses, wherein we read that the word of a Jabir that Rasulullah (s) owed him money; no witnesses were presented to corroborate his evidence. Abu Bakr’s opinion was that the money should be returned to Jabir.
Firstly it is not according to ‘my’ belief by according to the testimony of one you hold respected and venerated i.e. Ayesha, and her clear testimony can be read in Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 325. So who is insulting her?
And please do not talk about as to who really insults the Ahlulbayt [as] while the principle Hadith books of your school is comprised of some norotious Nasibi and Khariji people, who throughout their lives kept abusing, hurting and hating Ahlulbayt [as] but that again will take us somewhere else.
That is the problem with you people, if a Sahabi does injsutcie to Ahulbayt [as], we the followers of Ahlulbayt [as] should not complaint to that just because ‘will will be a disrespect to a Sahabi’ . O for God sake, what happened to the injustice done to the Ahlulbayt [as]??? From where have you derived this belief on earth? How can a Sahabi hurt Ahlulbayt [as] commit injustice against them yet we do not legitimally comment on the injustice, ‘just because the one who did is Sahabi’??? What kind of rule is this?
And guess what, the verse which is frequently taught to you people so that yo can cite it anytime you confront a Shia, i.e. the verse where in Allah says that he ‘was’ pleased with believers, some of the very Sahaba for whom this verse was revealed later on killed one of your beloved Sahabi after making a huge rebellion, but that si not our topic here. I just mentioned it here to point out the flaw in ‘your line of argument’ by using that verse as a blanket cover on ‘each and every Sahabi’.*
do you even bother reading what people say? I said what did Hafsa and Aishah (radiAllahu anhuma) do to Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) and why they do it!? Did I even argue about lack of evidences regarding your point?
do you even listen to yourself? When did I argue about Aishah or Hafsa (radiAllahu anhuma) that you responded to me or so called "refutation"? I asked about the issue of fadak and like always you had nothing valuable to add to thread except off-topic irrelevant responses. You're cherry picking because you want everyone to hold certain belief about our two mothers (may Allah be pleased with them) based on an issue between husband and his wives, and discard all the good they did for Islam. That's why I've said, it doesn't matter to you what are the events or issues, rather what matters to you is who is the criminal and victim in your sight.
Its your amazing sentence construction that confused me. I have nothing against the two Ummul momineen. I am not the judge of them, since judgment belongs to Allah.
The incidence is that one of the Prophet's wives used to feed him (SAW) honey and Aisha was jealous and she teemed up with Hafsa in telling the Prophet (SAW) whenever he (SAW) was coming from this wife that his breath smells foul because of the honey and Allah revealed Surah Tahreem that you can read for yourself.
See my dear friend, the idea is not to pick on any one or accuse anyone. You asked a question and made certain contextual points. I was only setting the context straight. You can disagree with the facts.
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read the definition of sahabas. Were those sahabas who migrated from Makkah manafiqoon? Were those sahabas who participated in badr munfiqoon?
Answer my question: why do you want us to pick between Ahl al-Bayat and other sahabas?
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Please share the definition of Sahabas with me in your opinion. I actually may be wrong here but my understanding is that the Ahle sunnat take anyone who accepted Islam in the time of the Prophet (SAW) and ever saw/met him is considered a sahabi.
Secondly, I don't know. Some people are always Munafiq and some turn into one based on conditions/cricumstances/opportunites, basically out of expediency.
There is nothing to pick between the Ahl-e-Bayt and Sahabas, it is quite obvious that if there is ever an "either-or" situation Ahl-e-Bayt are the definite and obvious pick.
incorrect; a sahabi is someone who accepted Islam, met/saw the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) and died as a believer.
stop beating around the bush. Why would Allah Ta’ala be pleased with munafiqoon or those who would become munafiq later? So, were there any munafiq among those who migrated from Medina to Makka or those who participated in battle of badr? Yes or No?
why? This is the problem in your mind set, the obvious bias against the sahaba, which has led to hate for them. The obvious is that we pick those who are right in the sight of the Qur’an and Sunnah. We don’t pick because he is Ali or he is Abou Bakr (may Allah be pleased with them). We pick who is right according to the Qur’an and Sunnah. Now, don’t quote me ayaat by distorting their meaning to prove your flawed reasoning. If you want to disccus this further, open a new thread.
incorrect; a sahabi is someone who accepted Islam, met/saw the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) and *died as a believer. *
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1)How can one actually find if someone died as a believer or did not have the Iman in the heart at the moment of the death?
2)What if someone met/saw and sat in the company of the Prophet (pbuh) yet was a Munafiq, but accepted the faith from his heart at the last moments of his life. What category would such person come under?
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1)How can one actually find if someone died as a believer or did not have the Iman in the heart at the moment of the death?
2)What if someone met/saw and sat in the company of the Prophet (pbuh) yet was a Munafiq, but accepted the faith from his heart at the last moments of his life. What category would such person come under?
this defination which bro AKB gave is a technical defination and it includes ALL grades of sahaba
and by the same logic how can u say someone didnt die as a believer shudnt u give them the benefit of doubt
^i know the break in logic that is why i divided the question into two different parts. Answer to 2nd one depends on the first.
btw Das, in your opinion does ALL the grades of sahaba includes the Munafiqeen too?
AllahkaBanda, I don’t want to start a debate here but just want to point out some of my viewsregarding the issue of the land of Fadak.
We all muslims believe, every act of Prophet P.B.U.H is done on Allah SWT will. All the actions he do and all the hadith’s Prophet P.B.U.H give is based on Allah SWT will. Now let me point out an hadith of Prophet P.B.U.H
“Fatimah is a part of me. Whoever makes her angry, makes me angry.”
Sunni references:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Arabic-English, v5, Traditions #61 and #111
Sahih Muslim, section of virtues of Fatimah, v4, pp 1904-5
Now read the following:
al-Bukhari narrated on the authority of Aisha that:
… Fatimah became angry with Abu Bakr and kept away from him, and did not talk to him till she died. She remained alive for six months after the death of the Prophet. When she died, her husband 'Ali, buried her at night without informing Abu Bakr and he said the funeral prayer by himself.
Sunni references:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Chapter of “The battle of Khaibar”, Arabic-English,
v5, tradition #546, pp 381-383, also v4, Tradition 325
Now based on the above narrations of Al-Bhukari try to answer the following questions:
- Would Allah SWT let his Prophet give such a hadith if nauzubillah Bibi Fatima Zehra SA had a tendency of getting angry with the people for wrong reasons
- As people have argued in other threads about the interpretation of these ayats. Would Allah SWT let his Prophet give this hadith if nauzubillah Bibi Fatima Zehra SA would mis interpret quranic verses and would get angry with Hazrat Abu Bakar for it?
- Would Prophet P.B.U.H. make Bibi Fatema Zehra S.A. the chief of all the ladies in paradise in the hadith below if she would nazubillah get angry with Abu Bakar. If one argues about the interpretation of the ayats presented by Bibi Fatima Zehra SA, would she nazubillah abuse the ayat of Quran and yet Hazrat Abu Bakar would have interpreted them correctly
Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 4.819
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Messenger of Allah said to Fatimah (who was crying at her father’s
deathbed): “Are you not satisfied that you are the chief of all the
ladies of Paradise or the chief of all the believing women?”
- In the light of the ayat below, would Allah SWT reveal the following verse in Quran when nazubillah his daughter would get angry on Hazrat Abu Bakar for a wrong reason?
“(O Prophet) tell (people) I don’t ask you any wage except to love my family.” (Quran 42:23).
- When the ayat of Mubahila was revealed, Prophet P.B.U.H took Bibi Fatima Zehra SA as the only lady when it came to curse the lairs at Mubahila. Would such a pious lady every stand up for wrong?
Or
Should we use the above narrations, hadith’s and verses of quran as a guideline to jude who is on haq and who isn’t? Who made Prophet P.B.U.H angry?
Psyah, there is a lot more to the incident of Fadak than just a piece of land. Islam teaches us to stand up for the right. When it comes to charity the house of Bibi Fatima Zehra SA was always open (Read Surah Dehar). Could it be the money from fadak was used for charity and to feed the poor?
Read my previous post for my views on the incident of the Fadak. The whole incident gives an insigt on the islam after the death of Prophet P.B.U.H. In this incident Bibi Fatima Zehra SA whom Prophet P.B.U.H. respected so much, she was the only lady Prophet P.B.U.H. took in the event of Mubahila when it cames to curse on lairs… and when she presented the ayat of Quran they were over turned by an hadith… and people chose to make her angry eventhough Prophet P.B.U.H. gave the following hadith:
“Fatimah is a part of me. Whoever makes her angry, makes me angry.”
The foundation between the shia and sunni sect is based on Quran and Ahleybait or Quran and sunnah If you get into the depth of this event that are some questions that come in my mind:
Following verse was revealed, during the time of Prophet P.B.U.H
“Today I have perfected your religion and completed my favour upon you, and I was satisfied that Islam be your religion.” (Qur’an 5:3)
This means quran declared Islam to be perfected during the time of Prophet P.B.U.H.
Now there is following hadith in Sahih Muslim:
“Zayd said: ‘O brother, by God, I have become aged and old and I have forgotten some of what I used to remember from the Messenger of Allah , upon whom be Allah’s peace and benedictions. So accept what I narrate to you and as to what I don’t, trouble me not regarding it.’ Then he said: ‘One day the Messenger of Allah , upon whom be Allah’s peace and benedictions, addressed us near a pond called Khumm between Makkah and Madinah. He praised God and extolled Him and preached and reminded (us). Then he said, “Lo, O people, I am only a human being and I am about to respond to the messenger of my Lord . I am leaving behind two precious things (thaqalayn) among you. The first of the two is the Book of Allah. In it is guidance and light. So get hold of the Book of Allah and adhere to it." Then he urged and motivated (us) regarding the Book of Allah . Then he said, "And my Ahl alBayt (family). I urge you to remember God regarding my Ahl alBayt. I urge you to remember God regarding my Ahl alBayt. I urge you to remember God regarding my Ahl al*Bayt”’” …
(*Sahih Muslim, *part 7, Kitab fada’il alSahabah *[Maktabat wa Matbaat Muhammad Ali Subayh wa Awladuhu: Cairo] pp. 122-123.)
The messenger of Allah (PBUH&HF) said: “I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful has informed me that These two shall not separate from each other till they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise).”
Sunni references:
Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663,328, report of 30+ companions, with reference to several chains of transmitters.
I have also read a similar version of the hadith, which claims Prophet P.B.U.H. left behind Quran and Sunnah. Now even though Quran claims islam was perfect at the of Prophet P.B.U.H, he did he mention a good source of sunnah? All the major hadith books were compiled years after the death of Prophet P.B.U.H. and some hadith’s in them have ruled out to be fabricated. In a perfect islam would Prophet P.B.U.H ask people to follow Quran and Sunnah eventhough he did not mention a trustful source. Where the people quran asks to love in the following verse were turned back based on contradicting hadith’s?
“(O Prophet) tell (people) I don’t ask you any wage except to love my family.” (Quran 42:23).
The incident of fadak serves as a perfect example, where Bibi Fatima Zehra S.A presented the ayat of quran on inheritance which were ruled out on the contary hadith. It also raises concern on who should we fall on to get true interpretation of Quran… Is sunnah the prefect source or is it the Ahley bait.? Are there hadith in sunnah books that may contradict each other and people have to pick and choose? or did Ahley bait ever contradicted against each other. Did Imam Hussain A.S stood up for something that were against the teachings of Prophet, Hazrat Ali, Imam Hassan or did any of the 12 Imam’s even contradicted each other. Or was not able to give a wise decision or were not able to interpret quran correctly? Didn’t Ahley bait always stand up for the islam. Didn’t Imam Hussain stood up and gave sacrificed his whole family to save the islam. Similarly didn’t Bibi Fatima Zehra S.A stood up to let us know who is right and worthy of following and who is contradicting teachings of Quran?
Following is the hadith Prophet P.B.U.H. gave at Ghadir:
“For whoever I am his Leader (mawla), 'Ali is his Leader (mawla).”
www.al-islam.org/ghadir
No matter how you interpret Mawla, wouldn’t it be wise to know who was Hazrat Ali A.S witness for Bibi Fatima Zehra S.A or Hazrat Abu Bakar in this incident
The Messenger of Allah said: “Ali is with Quran, and Quran is with Ali. They shall not separate from each other till they both return to me by the Pool (of Paradise).”
Sunni references:
al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p124 on the authority of Umm Salama
The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said about Ahlul-Bayt:
“Do not be ahead of them for you will perish, do not turn away from them for you will perish, and do not try to teach them since they know more than you do!”
Sunni references:
al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v2, p60
al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p230, quoted from al-Tabarani, also in section 2, p342
Thanks for the response. I have read all that you have written, but I still don't know why you claim Fatima-tu-Zahra (AS) can get angry over a worldly possession. Surely her piety is higher than that?
The hadith about not making Fatimah (AS) angry, surely it must be something very serious, serious enough for according to the Shi'a 'an infallible' person to get angry over.
In my original post I am not concerned about what other people may have done to make her angry or upset. I am concerned with the idea that she can actually become angry enough with someone not to speak with them for the rest of her life knowing she would soon die, over something that even my auntie can forgive someone over if she knew she was dying. Really! That is all I am asking. Why do call Fatima-tu-Zahra (AS) infallible yet still insist she could not forgive such a simple thing?
To put it in context: that hadith about not making Fatimah (SA) angry; what is the whole story behind it? I'm sure it was a far greater issue to be angry over than a piece of land.
Why did Hazrat Imam Ali, the greatest mind and the warrior of Islam, chose life of isolation for almost 25 years after the death of the Holy Prophet of Islam?