An interesting article where the writer has compared Sindhis with Pashtuns and then with Indian Sindhis. The Sindhis in India are known to be affluent and modern people, is this a generalisation?
http://www.dawn.com/news/1036021/the-invisible-partition-of-sindh/1
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:hmmm: idea chori ho gaya boss
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/culture-literature-and-linguistics/575098-dharti-maan.html
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They always steal the best ideas from Gupshup. Credit to dena chaiye.
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An interesting article where the writer has compared Sindhis with Pashtuns and then with Indian Sindhis. The Sindhis in India are known to be affluent and modern people, is this a generalisation?
Hindu Sindhis were never poor even before partition. They were highly educated, had good businesses in Urban areas, particularly in Karachi, Hyderabad and Sukkur. They were smart as compared to local Muslim Sindhis. On the downsize, they were the most cunning, materialistic, prejudice and selfish people. My observation may be wrong as I never encountered this community in my life. What I wrote, what I learned from my elders.
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Hindu Sindhis were never poor even before partition. They were highly educated, had good businesses in Urban areas, particularly in Karachi, Hyderabad and Sukkur. They were/are smart as compared to local Muslim Sindhis. On the downsize, they were the most cunning, materialistic, prejudice to Muslims and selfish people. My observation may be wrong as I never encountered this community in my life. What I wrote, what I learned from my elders.
Why are the traits of Hindu Sindhis different as compared to Muslims? Is it similar to the concept the rest of the country has for 'baniyas'? I think in Sindh (in terms of business skills) the people who come close to them are Memons.
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Interesting fact is that Pashto language is very different as compared to Urdu, Punjabi, Seraiki and Sindhi but still Pashtuns migrate to other parts in bigger numbers as compared to Sindhis.
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The language barrier between the Pashtuns and speakers of other languages is linguistically bigger than the one between Sindhi and others but nothing seems to hold back the Pashtuns and conversely nothing seems to push the Sindhis out of their homes.
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Why are the traits of Hindu Sindhis different as compared to Muslims? Is it similar to the concept the rest of the country has for 'baniyas'? I think in Sindh (in terms of business skills) the people who come close to them are Memons.
I have no clue to that. Perhaps muqawee123 or any other who knows the subject very well can enlighten here.
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Not prejudiced. if they were prejudiced they didn’t do public welfare works irrespective of faith. When it comes to faith and tolerance, Sindh got some different credentials. There was no distinction between Shah Latif and Sami amongst Sindhis (Hindu or Muslims). We still share common wall with Hindu family and till late 80s, there were many Hindu families living in neighbors. They shared all their happiness and sorrows with Muslims. My Dada used to address many Hindus of his age as saut (Sindhi for cousin). Many families who migrated to India visit Pakistan and come to our house. I’ve observed many emotional scenes during such gatherings.
I’ve read writings of many Sindhi writers (Shaikh Ayaz, Amar jalil, Mahtab Mehbbob, Altaf Shaikh) who talk of integration that prevailed among different faiths before partition and the love of Hindu Sindhis and their longing for Sindh. If there was utter exploitation, Abida Parveen didn’t praise Dada Wavani (Jogi Jaadugar Dada Vaswani. Jamuna Ji Dhara, Sindhua Jo Paani.
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Why are the traits of Hindu Sindhis different as compared to Muslims? Is it similar to the concept the rest of the country has for 'baniyas'? I think in Sindh (in terms of business skills) the people who come close to them are Memons.
Yes. In Sindhi Muslims, Memon is trading community and they were spread in many areas of subcontinent due to this trading. After partition, those traders again migrated to Pakistan and now mainly based in Sindh (Karachi).
Sindhi Memon are also involved in trading. There is this saying famous for Memon that there is no beggar or daku in the community. smugglers like Ibrahim Daud do exist ;)
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Yes. In Sindhi Muslims, Memon is trading community and they were spread in many areas of subcontinent due to this trading. After partition, those traders again migrated to Pakistan and now mainly based in Sindh (Karachi).
Sindhi Memon are also involved in trading. There is this saying famous for Memon that there is no beggar or daku in the community. smugglers like Ibrahim Daud do exist ;)
Even Ibrahim daud is good in his 'trade' ;) In Finance (Trade and Stock Market) we can see them.
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Interesting fact is that Pashto language is very different as compared to Urdu, Punjabi, Seraiki and Sindhi but still Pashtuns migrate to other parts in bigger numbers as compared to Sindhis.
Language has never been a hindrance when you migrate. Arab and Persian / Central Asian invasions say it all. The difference is that due to those invasions, Arabic and Persian languages affcted local languages, but Pashtu is somewhat different case.
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Language has never been a hindrance when you migrate. Arab and Persian / Central Asian invasions say it all. The difference is that due to those invasions, Arabic and Persian languages affcted local languages, but Pashtu is somewhat different case.
I agree, one reason could be that there have been so many invasions on Punjab and KPK resulting in displacements throughout history. Maybe that has developed tolerance for migrating for getting better opportunities. Sindh on the other hand has remained relatively peaceful especially during the past 1400 years. Secondly Sindh has many a times remained a separate entity quite a few times for long durations, maybe that has also contributed to the attitude of loving the motherland.
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I agree, one reason could be that there have been so many invasions on Punjab and KPK resulting in displacements throughout history. Maybe that has developed tolerance for migrating for getting better opportunities. Sindh on the other hand has remained relatively peaceful especially during the past 1400 years. Secondly Sindh has many a times remained a separate entity quite a few times for long durations, maybe that has also contributed to the attitude of loving the motherland.
Sindh has also been under attacks. Arab, Khiljis, Mughals, British all had tried their luck here. Even, Bhanbhor was destroyed due to war between Mongols and Khwarizm Shah.
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Sindh has also been under attacks. Arab, Khiljis, Mughals, British all had tried their luck here. Even, Bhanbhor was destroyed due to war between Mongols and Khwarizm Shah.
Ok, Sindh in one form on the other has been called by its name since Muhammad bin Qasims invasion. Then they have had an independent run as well for quite a few times, Sindh multan Arab country, kalhoras, talpurs etc. all of this would have helped develop the sense of belonging ness. Punjab was perhaps called by the name by moguls for the first time. Punjab and KPK have never ruled or stayed independent Per se, maybe this is the reason why nationalism didn't get hold there.