The Inventor of Milad

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Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar!! Look how they are! Insanyat leave him increase his sins because he's not listening. Watch him and his attitude, they know no Akhlaq! thay have none. He's just drawing the image of wahabies!! him and x.. because x agrees on such attitude. Al hamdulillah, I'm ready to face him with the good words. I will only tell them: Itaqoo-Llah. Fear Allah.

Sahme on you! Shame. You have no respect. I do call upon the moderators to see by their own eyes about these filthy words from filthy mouthes, where in Islam is that acceptable. I will say no more about that, and will tell you cuss as much as you want, but don't make takfeer to Muslims as you did. Watcher and x, don't forget that my posts are full of evidence and prooves drawn from QUR'AN and HADITH OF THE PROPHET and SAYINGS OF SAHABAH and SCHOLARS OF ISLAM, so if YOU CLAIM that you follow Ahlus-Sunnah, than why would you be opposing these schoalrs?!! Where in Qur'an did it say it's haram to make Mawlid? Na^t? Visit Propeht? Say Ya Muhammad Madadd? Wahbaisem is a true sect?! tell me where? don't put verses by your own translation, refer to scholars such as the the leaders of the 4 schools and the like. You never had any prooves like that. You did put verses but with your own meanings. Shame on you, learn how to talk with people and how to debate.

For x, you requested prooves from acceptable resources for Islamic Chants or Na^t, I mentioned the sayings, but I will bring more refernces insha'llah. But at the moment watch what you are sayin! Did you not know that MILLIONS of Muslims are still making Islamic chant's wherever they are and they are doing the rest of the Islamic activities that are proven to be derived from the actions of the Sahabah.

Subhanallah, I never thought I would find people like that making everything that deals with the love of the Prophet impermissible. But know that my posts are still loaded with sayings referenced to Sahabah and to the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wassallam and those who oppose never replied with prooves. They kept their mouthes shut and they escaped.

I would tell them: In order to listen, you have to shut your mouth and open your heart and not remain shuting your heart and opening your mouth. And know that Allah is the guider.

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Ahmad G, I see your angry and mad and upset, just because you can’t prove your corrupt innovations right in the light of Quran and SUnnah. I be mad to if I was in your position. Learn to like the truth, it will like you too.

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You keep following the religion of your ancestors, we will keep following what is in QURAN and SUnnah, ok buddy? Now cut the crap out.

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Take it easy …with the truth. haha

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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
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Watcher and x, don't forget that my posts are full of evidence and prooves drawn from QUR'AN and HADITH OF THE PROPHET and SAYINGS OF SAHABAH and SCHOLARS OF ISLAM, so if YOU CLAIM that you follow Ahlus-Sunnah, than why would you be opposing these schoalrs?!! Where in Qur'an did it say it's haram to make Mawlid? Na^t? Visit Propeht? Say Ya Muhammad Madadd? Wahbaisem is a true sect?! tell me where? don't put verses by your own translation, refer to scholars such as the the leaders of the 4 schools and the like. You never had any prooves like that. You did put verses but with your own meanings. Shame on you, learn how to talk with people and how to debate.

For x, you requested prooves from acceptable resources for Islamic Chants or Na^t, I mentioned the sayings, but I will bring more refernces insha'llah. But at the moment watch what you are sayin! Did you not know that MILLIONS of Muslims are still making Islamic chant's wherever they are and they are doing the rest of the Islamic activities that are proven to be derived from the actions of the Sahabah. **
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ur posts, full of references????...no no buddy.

I think we have agreed before (with mods like gfq / pristine) that it is watcher whose posts are always filled with references.

as far as millions of muslims reciting chants and me being the sole one who is wrong,,,well i've got one thing to say (which i've mentioned to some of the ppl here) "abu jahl, used to say teh same thing: My father and his father did the same thing, why shouldnt i ?

i ask you ahmed, where in teh quran or hadith does it say to peform these chants?

Although, it does say everywhere, that any addition to 'deen' practices is BIDDAH.

yep, buddy, waiting for ur references.

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And Ahmad G looks for a fatwaa from his brailvi Imam to say that creating new things in Islam is ok. And still he is struck dumb.

Ahmad G, you say your posts have references. In your posts all I see as reference is like statments like this: "This hadith, that hadith, prophet said that, it is in quran, imaam such and such said this" and on and on with nonsense to mislead others with your personal desires and will....

*V~V~V*He came, He saw, He conquered*V~V~V*

----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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watcher, i need u to volunteer in a labotomy that will be performed on CM.

could you be really sympathetic and hit a reply on the “alrite CM” post in general, saying , I AGREE?

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hehe ok, let me go there just now.

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V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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Brother Ahmed G, just ignore watcher and other kids, they are not worth your time brother. You are an alim and those are just little excited kids, let them jump!!!

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Jazakallah khairan!

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Originally posted by X_Communist:
** ur posts, full of references????...no no buddy.

I think we have agreed before (with mods like gfq / pristine) that it is watcher whose posts are always filled with references.

as far as millions of muslims reciting chants and me being the sole one who is wrong,,,well i've got one thing to say (which i've mentioned to some of the ppl here) "abu jahl, used to say teh same thing: My father and his father did the same thing, why shouldnt i ?

i ask you ahmed, where in teh quran or hadith does it say to peform these chants?

Although, it does say everywhere, that any addition to 'deen' practices is BIDDAH.

yep, buddy, waiting for ur references.

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Oh sister please give me a break, that guy Watcher just keep bluffing without much references, and if u prove the point of his wrong to divert the converstation he just come up with another lame accusation without referenes

[This message has been edited by Insaniyat (edited January 02, 2001).]

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the topic was millad...not whether watcher or ahmad g had a competition going for references (fabricated at times)

so ahmad g, u havent answered my last question...

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Originally posted by X_Communist:
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I think we have agreed before (with mods like gfq / pristine) that it is watcher whose posts are always filled with references.

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Originally posted by X_Communist:
**the topic was millad...not whether watcher or ahmad g had a competition going for references (fabricated at times)

so ahmad g, u havent answered my last question...**
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Guys look who is talking

Sounds like some real confused individual

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He won’t answer your question x-com. He needs times to fabricate stuff about it so he can give you one answer with his kinda references like: “this hadith, that hadith, prophet said that, this sahabi did this, etc etc…”

Insaniyaat, what do you consider a reference? Is quran a references to you? Are books of hadith references to you? That is what is always in my post, stuff right out of QURAN and Hadith books.

Now that your a shia, the posts I posted about shia-ism have references from SHIA HADITH BOOKS, does your hadith books have ANY value when someone gives you stuff from those books? Have you read any of those books? I doubt that you did, but you never know, what you missed!!!

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So, it all depends, if your ready to accept the truth, if you are not, than you will deny ever references a person gives you no matter if its quran, shia hadith books, or bukhari, muslim. Are you ready for truth? Ask your self that question, are you? If you are you should atleast should not deny the references and material being posted right out of your own shia hadith books.

Innovators, and corrupters, who like to mock Islam do not like to see ANY references being pointed out. They only like if some Imam had given some personal opinion about the topic and they go around carrying that fatwaa with them. That is what you people are doing here likes of Ahmad G, ALshah, and others, are doing that.
My request: STop posting lies and fabricated hadith about Islam. STop misleading others just like you have mislead your self. NOT lying is a fundamental of Islam, your not even following that, how can we expect anything better from you guys?

May Allah guide you to the right path and may allah show you the right path and may allah gives you power to handle the ultimate painful truth. Ameen.

If you continue to defame sahaba, and continue to mock Islam with self-created lies, then may ALlah burn you and those who do these things in hell fire for enternity. Ameen.

Take it easy my dear friend, sir.

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PS: I check most of the hadith that you people post from bukhari, and that is why I call almost all of them fabricated, because they do not exist in the real bukhari versions. Thank you!

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----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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Subhanallah, I may get busy a little bit, and may get too busy, but I will not be silent for some of the lies addressed by some for life! and let them know that most of my posts are still waiting for replies from those who opposed! yes they are, posts that have ahadith and Sayings of scholars who did things in Islam that comply with Islam, such as the tawassul, tabarruk, Salat on the Prophet after athan.. No one had any answer to them! And let some barkers know that: Yes We do follow our ancestors who showed us the way, ancestors like Shafi^y, Abu Hanifah, Malik and Ahmad.. Would any think that you would know anything about the religion without these Scholars?! For sure not. Therefore, let those who keep barking prove that their references are interperted according to these scholars not according to the desires. And we are all ears, but huh, it's like the wind trying to move the mountains, We, Ahlus-Sunnah are not a sect as some clearly are, we are firm about our belifs and have no room for doubt nor change, but others exist with doubt and contradictions and namely wahabies. Wahabies are a disease, for those who don't know, just read their history, look at history it will utter, just read what the Prophet said about their county; Najd and how dispraised it is, read and see what the scholars said about the founder of that sect say..

Subhanallah. I will leave those who keep mumbaling with a question that has not been answered for the past 10 posts of mine, and that question is one of the 10s that are still waiting for the claimers' answers.

They are saying innovations: everything done after the time of the Prophet by other than the Prophet in the religion ALL is unlawful. So they have said ALL and they made it absolute. So we ask: Why do Muslims pray taraweeh in congregation? Prophet never pray it in congregation. Why do Muslims read Al-Qur'an now with the dots that are about the characters? Qur'an had no dots during the time of the Prophet and after his death. Why do Muslims make the second athan? Prophet did not order with that. These questions need the opposers' answers imediately or let them take 100 million years to anwer them properly. And for the ignorants, I can clarify to them how all these good innovations were initiated mostly by Sahabah.

So, before any more barking from those couple of people who like to, let them show us what they "HAVE READ" about these things.

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Walhamdulillah.

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Akhy Azam, Alhamdulillah, Allah has made tow Angels on every person, one Angel rights the good deeds and one writes the bad deeds, so everything that has been said is written, and for those who like to lie and fabricate and use rude language, this is a reminder for you to watch what you say, and to repent to Allah.

Please, don’t lie and return here and say that others are lying, that’s all. Just like someone by the name Watcher, who claimed once that I had no references, and the second time he came and said: O Ahmad, YOUR REFERENCES are fabricated. Huh, look how the lies are played and how the contradictions are. And once he came claiming that I’m Azam, and Azam is me! lol, the guy is searching for ways to reply to my questions, so he lies and makes up things. At least Azam knows that so-called watcher is lying!

They Poet says: the weapon of the crule ones, filthy and rude words.

Allah-u-Sami^un Bassir.

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Masha-Allah brother. A good response as usual. Love the verse too!

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u have alotta knowledge brother Ahmed G! and you have aajizee and inkisaree too. Masha-Allah.

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If references from quran are fabricated references to you, than what can i say, you do not believe in references from QURAN and HADITH, that makes you a disbeliever(munafik, mushrik, etc). All I posted was references from quran and hadith books, and you post the fabricated stuff, which is NOT in bukhari and I CHECK it my self that is why I call it fabricated because it does not exist in the actual book!

Only a mushrik and munafik like you would say that references I gave you from quran and hadith books are fabricated. You do not like truth being told so you look for ways to defy it. Well, I got news for you Ahmad G and your other mushrik friends on this forum, you guys are not doing a great job at defying truth. You will never be able to. Words of your imams and fabricated hadith that you get from anti-Islamic sites are NOTHING and have no value to them, ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS what ALLAH and his messenger has to say on the subject.

May ALlah show you the right path and make you stop lying when it comes to telling people the TRUTH about Islam and make you stop corrupting religion of Islam with new innovations and practices which your forefathers use to do. Ameen.

If you do not stop posting non-sense and fabricated stuff, may allah burn you and those who wrote those hadith in highest levels of hell fire for eternity. AMeen

YOu have a great day, take it easy with the truth!

*V~V~V*He came, He saw, He conquered*V~V~V*

----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited January 06, 2001).]