No. Answer the question. Where does it say we need to do so first?
Pakistan refused to demilitirize .... even though they had to vacate the areas completely, they did not and that is what is hoding up the plebiscite. Once demilitirization has been completed, then only plebiscite will take place. Even though Indian also has to remove its troops, they can leave troops that are required for peace and secrurity.
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Show me where it says we need to do first. Simple question. Why can't you answer it?
Show me where it says we need to do first. Simple question. Why can't you answer it?
You seem to be jumping from one position to another .... simple question to you ... can a plebiscite take place with Pakistan army in Kashmir ... simple yes or no !!!!!
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Answer my question first. You have yet to do so after how many posts so far?
Answer my question first. You have yet to do so after how many posts so far?
The questions is not of first ... Pakistan refused to vacate !!! All the talks would basically stall at this point. That is why i said for plebiscite to take place, Pakistan needs to vacate and this is known to you also :D
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Answer the question.
Since all your arguments seem to hinge on this … here is the Part II B of the truce agrement …
(1) When the Commission shall have notified the Government of India that the tribesmen and Pakistan nationals referred to in Part II A 2 hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistan forces are being withdrawn from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to begin to withdraw the bulk of their forces from the State in stages to be agreed upon with the Commission
So when the UNCIP informs India that Pakistani nationals have withdrawn COMPLETELY and Pakistan forces are being withdrawn, then India beings to withdraw … and if you read all the UN resolutions … non of them mention this condition having been met … hence India has not reduced its troops … So who is hiolding up the plebiscite in Kashmir:D
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UNCIP non-binding. Irrelevant. In the UNSC resolutions, where does it say we have to do so first?
Even UNSC resolutions are non binding … but India and Pakistan have agreed that Kashmir issue is to be resoved as per UNCIP resolutions … and it is mentioned in the UNSC resolutions. This was last time Kashmir was discussed in UN security council
http://www.kashmiri-cc.ca/un/sc2dec57.htm
Observing further that the Governments of India and Pakistan recognize and accept the commitments undertaken by them in the resolutions of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan dated 13 August 1948 and 5 January 1949, which envisage the determination of the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir in accordance with the will of the people through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite, and that Mr. Jarring felt it appropriate to explore what was impeding their full implementation
But knowing your track record of understanding international agreement … i am not surprised by your reaction … you are the one who claims it is illegal for India to use western rivers 
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Answer the question. You still have not answered it. Do so. I have an answer ready for your question. Answer mine.
Answer the question. You still have not answered it. Do so. I have an answer ready for your question. Answer mine.
Your questions have been answered ..... Pakistan has to start demilitirization and once that starts the Commisoner will inform India and then they have to start. In simple plain english .... but you want to read only selective portions that is not my problem. This is similar to your reading of Indus water treaty ..... :D
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Really? Fine check this out:
You don’t want to listen to UN appointed Commisions on Kashmir … but you want me to listen to Wikipedia … guess what … this was an accusation made by foreign minister of Pakistan. What can you expect from him !!!
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sigh Reread the UNSC resolutions.
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Over the next several years, the UN Security Council passed four new resolutions, revising the terms of Resolution 47 to include a synchronous withdrawal of both Indian and Pakistani troops from the region, per the recommendations of General Andrew McNaughton.
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Repeat.....to include a synchronous withdrawal of both Indian and Pakistani troops from the region,
sigh Reread the UNSC resolutions.
Repeat.....to include a synchronous withdrawal of both Indian and Pakistani troops from the region,
Again Wikipedia .... i posted the last UN resolution on Kashmir ..... and that clearly states that demilitirization has to take place as per UNCIP resolutions ..... now you wanna believe Wikipedia over UN be my guest.
Time and again you would ask me to post UN document and which i did .... and all you have got is Wikipedia :D
I am sure he updated it himself before posting here…
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Nope. I have Kashmir, UN Security Council Resolution 98
UNSC resolution. Article 4.
Booyah *****!
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I know this is hard.
So if anyone can find a solution to this festering issue - they can win the GS Peace prize.
Does it say India has not agreed to the proposal … your claim was that 11 proposals for demilitirization were put forward but India did not agree. Infact even this did not satisfy Pakistan … they tried to move a resolution for having UN peacekeepers in Kashmir. Of course this move was vetoed by USSR.
I know this is hard.
So if anyone can find a solution to this festering issue - they can win the GS Peace prize.
Till full fleged democracy does not return to Pakistan, there is never going to be a solution. This issue is used by illegal dictators to solidify their position. So till there is no inetrest to solve this issue , there is not going to be a solution.