Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias…please help…
Oh yeah. But I don’t put false blames on companions, decendants and relatives of Sayyedna Mohammad :saw:. Do I?
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias...please help...
which part of the following text i've written above you did not understand:
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Either way there is no point of discussing with you on any topic about islam or islamic history unless you provide us with the proof that you follow the same quran.
strange, that you claim that you are Bint-e-Iqbal but you lack of any intellect he had.
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Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias…please help…
FALSE???
even sunnis believe this stuff…it is the universal truth
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Sheraz mian, why you even bother. A person who does not follow the same quran isnt worth debating
Waisay aapis ki baat, wonder what she calls a person who falsly accuse a very dear sahabi of Rassolallal (p) that hes turned to judism (the word was used Na'thal) so he should be killed. History testifies that he died a muslim.
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias…please help…
So you believe there are various versions of Quran? 
Now calling Sayyedna Ali 
as Yazeed laeen.
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and now the famous accusation and slandering continues :)
Not surprising .. If Companions were not spared, who is OMG or me or even any other Muslim?
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias...please help...
Not surprising .. If Companions were not spared, who is OMG or me or even any other Muslim?
HAHA, khwajay da gawwah daddu!! Read my posts above aqalmand!
Or perhaps you can show me the word Royatika since she ran to you for help :)
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I did... I am assuming you went in to OMG's house and saw with your own eyes the Quran she reads at home.... AQALBAND ;-)
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias...please help...
Or perhaps you can show me the word Royatika since she ran to you for help :)
Qoute me for word ROYATIKKA... AQALBAND bhai jaan
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias…please help…
Well I read the Quran with the Tafseer of Ibn-e Abbas . The most authentic Tafseer.
PS: He is from Ahl-e Bait but not Shia.
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Adopting insulting behaviour dose'nt chage the fact that she insisted on having word ROYATIKKA in that verse. In fact she gave her fatwa based on that word.
BTW isnt one of the the signs (bolded text above) of losing debate?
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Originally Posted by Anwaar Qureshi
and now the famous **accusation* and slandering continues*
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LOL, wonder who's accusing who :)
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias...please help...
If she gave a fatwa, I am not responsible... Ask her.. not me.. I am speaking for myself and not for her...
If that is a sign of losing debate then all the insulting behaviour against the first three caliphs indicative of a greater inference :)
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Not surprising .. If Companions were not spared, who is OMG or me or even any other Muslim?
talking about slandering?...your beloved companion was famous for slandering Imam Ali (a.s.)
*Book 031, Number 5915: *
This hadith has been narrated. on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters. Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyin appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said: What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali)
you gotta be a big time hypocrite if you say you respect both personalities
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this isn’t any proof 
again;
LOL, Like i a’m debating with first three caliphs. wish i was present at their time though 
BTW, have I insulted or adopted an insulting behaviuor against first three caliphs in this post??
wonder again, who’s accusing who?? 
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If you were present at time of first three Caliphs what would you have done?
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waisay Sheraz mian, I wonder, if I accuse Anwar Qureshi **falsly **and punch him unjustly breaking his nose and he punches me back in self defence and brakes my jaw, who would be getting a jail time. And would you praise both of us and take both our sides for our actions?? Would any one take me as their hero/guide for what i did to Mr. AQ
^ hmm :-/
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aray!! is’nt it obvious. I would’ve followed the command of Prophet (s) he gave befor his Wisaal.
BTW have you read this book:
السیف الجلی علٰی منکر ولایۃ علی](http://www.research.com.pk/home/fmri/books/ur/ghadir/index.minhaj?id=0)** (In Urdu)**
heres the english version:
The Ghadir Declaration](http://www.research.com.pk/home/fmri/books/eng/ghadir/index.minhaj?id=0)
LOL. WOW!! I like the title of its urdu version 
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I will rather take that title than slandering the companions of the prophet:saw:
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OmG you need to read the facts about battle of Jamal and the attack on Basra by ayesha's army when she openly defied the Quranic instructions and left her home to make muslims kill each other, furthermore her nephew dragged even his father Zubair(ra) to the battlefield although he did repent and leave at the last minute......this started the first intra-muslim conflict, while you guys blame the "koofies" of starting the hostilities
btw kharijites were nonexistant at the times of Jamal so your argument is totally flawed
Iconoclast
I would have done what Ali did ....support the 2 caliphs in running the affairs of Govt. to preserve unity of the muslims ...remember that the first faction formed withen muslims were those who refused to accept the authority of a popularly elected fourth caliph.
but when the third one deviated sharply from the Quran/sunnah AND the example of the first two ...I would have spoken out against him and supported those criticizing him and his governers.
In the fourth one I would have fought against those he fought with and made peace with those whom he made made peace with
Re: The Four Imams and their opinions on shias…please help…
tell me this according to you who killed Uthman? kharijites or as you call the “followers of ibn saba” cuz these are 2 different groups