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I don't see any rules being broken so there isnt a need to suggest infractions for anyone for that matter.
It's just an article that didn't need that much attention as it clearly got what it wanted..to create a negative hype about Islam and the way the 'fatwa brigade' works
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Can yoo please elaborate?
If you want to toss around recommendation for someone to receive infraction points, can you at least name the poster, what is it about the poster's comments that deserves infraction points? We are having a discussion here - I dont see the need to appeal to the moderators for infraction points to be assigned to posters whom you disagree with. (CM himself does not resort to that).
She made reference to me and getting points. I am after all the mods favorite pinata. She was not referring to you. And its heart warming to see I am the poster child for all who do bad on GS. This is like the 4th time in a week where someone has said "Not even CM does that" :D
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self pity? 
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Why should anyone receive infraction points?
The news might be retarded but there’s absolutely nothing with this thread.
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Pigeon-holing internet strangers helps maintain neat stereotypes about the world, no doubt. I am now a "modern liberal western educated Muslim." Takes a libertine to know one, eh. And, come now, if you're going to make a statement, stand by it. No need to pretend you were casually trolling about gays to get a rise out of the flaming liberals that populate this flaming liberal forum. I dunno, maybe your 'random' mention of homosexuals on a thread about sexy bananas is "why I picked up on it."
Stereotypes work best on the internet. Its not you are going to have an interesting intellectual discussion on GS. The gay stuff is definitely trolling and its great to get arise out of most people. That is why you are harping on about it a few days later.
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Yes, critical introspection is what happens to bad people. Your frontal lobe is your enemy, always remember that. Nothing a concussion can't fix.
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Physical abuse. I like. And that was my Borat impression.
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I wasn't aware this was a thread pitting Islamic values against Western values. (I see what you mean by "personal emotional issues" now). If you had a pulse on the sentiments of the underdog, you'd know the common man isn't looking to be instructed on what it means to be Muslim. The common man wants food on the table, a secure future for his family, and for the Americans and Soldiers of Allah to get the hell off his turf.
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Wow. You see the irony of your statement? You have no more an understanding of the common man than you accuse me of having. I expected so much more.
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Still waiting for you to name the posters mocking Islam. Finish what you started. Perhaps you're projecting something you're experiencing offline? Muslims in the West this, Muslims in the West that. Why even converse in English? Which happens to be the official vernacular of Hell.
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Shirk is one thing I will conduct. Regardless of the internet goading. The definition is given. A few posters get it, yet you don't. Rose tinted glasses I am assuming.
1. I can't write Arabic on the internet for the life of me and 2. Not everybody speaks french. And 3. I like to hide my absolute horrendous grasp of the french grammar system by speaking in English.
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What on earth do the issues that face Pakistan today have to do with the identity crises of Westernized Muslim yuppies? Right, we don't lack indigenous Islamic scholarship, ijtihad isn't dead, we're not still reeling from Zia's draconian legacy, our airwaves aren't full of Zaid Hamids and Aamir Liaquats spewing reactionary hate speech, we're not calling rape victims adulterers or assassinating Pakistani Christian ministers in the name of God. It's the "western educated Muslim" that's actually b@st@rdizing the religion beyond recognition. The "liberals" are the ones braying the loudest, wielding the most clout, the ones hijacking the Islamic narrative. And what I've just described is a figment of my "existential angst" and a 'Western conspiracy to make Pakistan/Islam look bad.'
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To your first question. The majority of the urban upper class in Pakistan are Westernized Muslim Yuppies as you say. I would know they are my social group back home. They are educated abroad. Come from middle to upper class families and inter-mix religion and western norms as they desire. While most college books will teach you government is conducted by the people, that obviously is not the case in Pakistan. This Westernized Muslim yuppie base is the future of our "democratic parties" and form the core second generation of most MPAs and politicans. They also form the basis for PTI support which everybody has described as Jamaat-i-Islami lite. So obviously you can see it has a huge impact on our country and its future. The lack of this basic knowledge indicates you are a second generation Pakistani who lives abroad.
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We suddenly have scruples, do we. You mean like hurling the 'K' invective at minorities on this forum? Perhaps it slipped your mind that non-Muslims exist on our side of the border, unless of course you don't consider them Pakistani. Or classifying an entire thread of GS members as the collective enemy of a religion you fearlessly guard alone. Captain Cheerio, defender of the Momins, to the rescue.
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How did you know I love Cheerios? Also the General Mills stuff. The Nestle stuff is just horrible. The K invective is not an insult. It is a statement of fact. The Muslim world is divided up into those realms. Why would you even consider it an insult is the question. Would the phrase pagan be considered an insult? Or the phrase "animistic religion"? Nope. Rather they are used rather actively in academia. So why does the phrase Kafir affect you so?
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Whatever discourse is, this ain't it. One minute you're advocating independent reasoning and name-dropping liberal thinkers like Orwell, and in the next breath you've turned into Farhat Hashmi with a handlebar moustache. Well what do you know, you might be an endearing bundle of contradictions like the rest of us, o' lamb of God.
ps. What are you smoking, out with it. 'Cos I want in on that stash.
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You know the beauty of that above paragraph? Nope? I shall inform you. You automatically stereotyped me as a fundo, someone who must defend the faith against the evils of the west and whatever else the terrorists say. Ironic since you commented previously that it was wrong for me to do so. Then you call me a bundle of contradictions.
The beauty is that I never classified myself or identified myself as anything. I am who I am. I have no problems with it and I make sure I don't contradict what i personally believe with my upbringing or my faith. Is it easy? Nope. But I get'r done. 20 points if you can name the comedian.
Sheesha. Chelim. Hooka. Normally smoke Al Fakhar tobacco. Personally love Mint and lemon mixed together. I would highly recommend that for a smoke. If you want some of the harsher stuff speak to GIDSA.
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Pfft. I am not a guppan. More like intriguing. I have a cult like status on this forum 
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Sheesha. Chelim. Hooka. Normally smoke Al Fakhar tobacco. Personally love Mint and lemon mixed together. I would highly recommend that for a smoke. If you want some of the harsher stuff speak to GIDSA.
Try a strong Watermelon one. I had the illest one the other weekend, it was just so rich! Mint is always a great choice though.
Also, Chaibiskut, come down by the History forum later and come alone. I've got summa dat good stuff.
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I generally mix mint in to everything. From Grape to Orange and everything in between. I shall give the watermelon a try when I get back. Though the guys got this new brand from Jordan. Comes in golden boxes and they are mixed blends. Now that **** is good. Smoke that for hours and the rest get drunk.
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The newspaper has apologized for publishing a poorly sourced article: http://bikyamasr.com/50613/editorial-on-bikyamasr-coms-coverage-of-the-cucumber-sheikh/
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Its easier to do something wrong and then seek forgiveness afterwards. Every man knows that :D
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Possibly the most verbose and least informative apology I've ever read. Kept saying look we're still learning how this editing thing works.
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And this is what all that shisha is doing to your lungs:
Now go enjoy your lunch after looking at that lovely image 
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^Yo! stop showing these kind of violent images. On other hand, I think you need to try one of these with me someday. Try mango mint..it's awesome!
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that’s what they always do..dig out the silliest, least credible stuff, make a hype out of it then conveniently apologise !
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Sehrysh, you can’t blame me if I ulti on you 
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sheesha is much worse than cigarette smoke ..Sehrysh is right ..lemon or mint or double strawberry or anything
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i like intellectual something-courses....
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Whats with you trying to make me a better human being? Sheesh. You and RV are horrible. Speaking of which where is she.....
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I’m not naive enough to expect a miracle. A better human being, ha, not in this lifetime 
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Well certainly not in yours. Me I plan on living for eva!