http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\11\15\story_15-11-2010_pg11_10
I need ur opinions. After the devastating flood many farmers lost their live stocks, to some of them thats all they owned. Instead of sacrificing these animals this yr, cant people donate these live-stock to the ones who lost them in flood?
isnt that a sacrifice?
why r v stuck with these barbaric practice..after all we do not go to work/market on camels anymore, do v?
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Barbaric practice? Are you high on something?
Try not to disguise your hatred in sweet talk.
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No muslim would consider sacrifice of animals on Eid as barbaric.
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^Not just muslims, a whole lot of people do not consider sacrifice of animals for food barbaric either.
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why r v stuck with these barbaric practice..after all we do not go to work/market on camels anymore, do v?
Why can't barbarians around the world stop cutting trees for wood, cutting jungle after jungle, killing animal for food, catching fish for food etc?
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Barbaric practice? Are you high on something?
Try not to disguise your hatred in sweet talk.
PERFECT!!!!
When i read the title, i thought it was a FANTASTIC idea to donate the animals to poor people but after reading the article, i understood the REAL motive behind this.
Shame on the haters (If only they are as worried as they pretend to be).
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I am surprised at the reaction to word "barbaric". The sacrificing of the animals is a pre-islamic practice. jews used to do the same sacrifice also but they gave up on that practice. Anyway barbaric is my opinion, i dont like the sight of goats/cows butchered in open and their blood and innards all over the street. If u like it then fine!
Why dont we discuss the main point of my post instead of getting stuck on guessing what was my "motivation" for posting.
btw i like kabab and nihari that doesnt meant i have to butcher my own goat!
We all know that in pakistan its all the show...who has the fattest bakra..cow is better than bakra...camel is the best.... elephant ?
The point is if the money used for buying/sacrificing these animals or the animals themselves, is given to poor isnt that a better sacrifice? At least this yr when millions of poor have lost their livestocks.
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Who told you that jews and christians gave up sacrificing animals? While jews and christians don’t do it openly, they still slaughter millions of animals daily in abattoirs or slaughterhouses…and many hindus and sikhs do the same (sure they do not sacrifice cow but they do slaughter, lamb, goat, chicken etc.)
“In the United States, around nine billion](Long and short scales - Wikipedia) animals are slaughtered every year[1]](Slaughterhouse - Wikipedia) (this includes about 150.4 million cattle, bison, sheep, hogs, and goats and 8.9 billion chickens, turkeys, and ducks) in 5,700 slaughterhouses and processing plants employing 527,000 workers;[2]](Slaughterhouse - Wikipedia) in 2007, 28.1 billion pounds of beef were consumed in the U.S. alone.[3]](Slaughterhouse - Wikipedia) In Canada, 650 million animals are killed annually.[4]](Slaughterhouse - Wikipedia) In the European Union, the annual figure is 300 million cattle, sheep, and pigs, and four billion chickens.[5]](Slaughterhouse - Wikipedia)”
Personally, I have mixed feelings about this but it is only during eid that you (may) see animals being sacrificed in the open. The rest of the year it is all done in abattoirs much like jews and christians
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Why u guys are going off topic. As i mentioned i enjoy eating meat/poultry and know that somebody had butchered those animals. However, neither do i want to visit the factories where they butcher them nor do i want to (or have stomach) butcher a live animal my self. But that my personal choice.
The point i am making is for this yr is it more pious to donate money or goats/cattle destined for sacrifice to those that have lost their cattle/goats in the flood. As far as sacrificing animal is islamic or not thats an another topic.
At least,I should thank u for not finding any ulterior motive in my post 
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I am surprised at the reaction to word "barbaric". The sacrificing of the animals is a pre-islamic practice. jews used to do the same sacrifice also but they gave up on that practice. Anyway barbaric is my opinion, i dont like the sight of goats/cows butchered in open and their blood and innards all over the street. If u like it then fine! Why dont we discuss the main point of my post instead of getting stuck on guessing what was my "motivation" for posting. btw i like kabab and nihari that doesnt meant i have to butcher my own goat! We all know that in pakistan its all the show...who has the fattest bakra..cow is better than bakra...camel is the best.... elephant ? The point is if the money used for buying/sacrificing these animals or the animals themselves, is given to poor isnt that a better sacrifice? At least this yr when millions of poor have lost their livestocks.
I agree with you VoiceOne on your original post. Don't worry about what posters say here. A lot of people here on this site and in Pakistan like to label and try to judge people's motive without using an iota of common sense!
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The obligation of sacrificing animal on Eid can not be replaced by charity. Meat and Skin of animals can also be given for the sake of needy.
Since the obligatory act of sacrifice (it is obligatory only on the person who can afford it) is irreplacable, a parallel charity for the victims of flood can be arranged but not in lieu of sacrifice itself. That would be a direct disobidience of Almighty.
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cant people donate these live-stock to the ones who lost them in flood?
No, Qurabani is wajib and you cannot replace Qurabni with donation. There are 1000 otherways of helping flood victim. Do you have to take away from wajib ibadaat to help needy folks?
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Why u guys are going off topic. As i mentioned i enjoy eating meat/poultry and know that somebody had butchered those animals. However, neither do i want to visit the factories where they butcher them nor do i want to (or have stomach) butcher a live animal my self. But that my personal choice. The point i am making is for this yr is it more pious to donate money or goats/cattle destined for sacrifice to those that have lost their cattle/goats in the flood. As far as sacrificing animal is islamic or not thats an another topic. At least,I should thank u for not finding any ulterior motive in my post :D
I get u. Then we are on the same page. I find it distasteful myself (if I can put it this way). We do not do it in our house anymore because my mother esp. does not like all the bloodshed on eid day. Instead my brother goes to an abattoir on eid day and takes care of everything incl. distribution of meat etc. over there. To me it is the poor animal that is making the ultimate sacrifice. Forget maulvis, many educated jahils would tell you that the sacrificial animal does not feel any pain!! Who would buy that? a few of my aunties would tell me, 'beta qurbani k jaanwar ko infact maza aa raha hota hai!!' OK dear let me put a knife to your throat and you tell me aapko kitna maza aata hai or if you feel any pain or not!! Yes I know about the religious and historical context, why we do it etc. and if you tell me that there are certain things in religion where logic cannot be applied then I would accept that as an explanation but don't try and explain it away with absolute bull like the animal feels no pain or enjoys being sacrificed because I would not accept that nonsense. I have seen a cow being slaughtered myself a few times and the poor animal can be in agony for a good 8-15 minutes. Then you hear stories about incompetent, anari butchers messing things up inflicting even more pain on the poor animal and it just puts you off.....
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Agreed that public slaughter for animals is a barbaric practice, regardless of the reason for doing it. It's disgusting. I wouldn't want my kids to see it.
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Yep. When Eid comes all people crawl out and bring something which has never been an issue all year around for millions of people.
Some say Oh the bakra will be sad, some say it is barbaric. 
Like I said before, we have gone in to the era where animals are considered more ‘sacred’ than human being.
Regarding doing this act in open I have said before somewhere, that it is not a good practice, but cerainly not even close to being ‘barbaric’. Those people who saw it still got great education, became good humanitarians and professionals and in many ways have shown to be better than so called civilized people!
Original post was made in disguised way to show utter lack of knoledge about this issue and mixing he issue with ‘helping’ the needy. No. As it is said above, one cannot do that. The meat can be given after zabiha is done but zabiha cannot take place of donation.
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TLK, The jinx and other who is talking about qurbani as according to religious texts. Why people like u not jump up and down when a poor Christian woman is sentenced to death on bogus blasphemy charges.
Dont u remember when a woman threw garbage on prophet(PBUH) and he ignored/forgave her?
Why only stick to rituals as quarbani, length of ur beard, shuttle coke burqas etc.? People dont follow the essence of the great messenger but they want to follow the rituals..which changes as society does and is different in different culture. e.g. before zia ulloo haq u can see women dressing in sarees in public/parties/wedding as it is sub-continental cultural dress and post zia...do u see any body?
We have to believe in the core spiritual meaning and rituals are ...well...just that rituals.
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Now another issue comes. 
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IMO,These are the exact sentiments up here that are addressed in Quran-e-kareem.
You have to sacrifice something that is dear to you or something that draws you.
Prophet Ibrahim pbuh originally saw his beloved son Ismael under the knife.
Allah swt needed sacrificial evidence,,and when it was to be realized by Prophet Ibrahim,, Allah swt
endorsed this act to Ibrahim aleh salam and commanded sheep to replace Ismael aleh Salam under the knife of Ibrahim pbuh,
One should not feel 'Barbaric' or call it 'Bloodshed' as this 'Act of Qurbani' is Allah's swt who is endorser
and knows his creation has bestowed unto "Ummat-e-Ibrahimi and Ummat-e-Mohammadi,, Peace be upon them.
We are not worthy of even mention of habitual prompt of "dislike" "sick" "barbaric" ,,,,,hence it should be a good practice to refrain from such sentiments.
Qurbani is Obligatory !
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Dont u remember when a woman threw garbage on prophet(PBUH) and he ignored/forgave her?
VoiceOne, Sir, Peace.
To forgive that woman was the right of Prophet (PBUH) and he did so and we are no one to tell what he should and should not have done. Hence, comparing it with actual blesphemy in these days is illogical and flawed.
Next time when you run out of arguments, do not dig up another issue to run away from the actual discussion.
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True. Very true.
That is exactly what he/she/whatever did.
Funny that people come up with stupid made up issues to hide their real sinister objectives.