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So you want to use harsh words for religious rituals and then you want people to ignore and move on? Which world are you from?

Oh, so you are one of those cowards who want to enjoy the fruits of slaughtering done by someone else.

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This.

There are actually people here who are sending their money to Pakistan to get the Qurbani done there and have the meat distributed over there.

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ok now you are taking things to unnecessarily extremes and mixing issues up to make qurbani look a controversial practice.

Qurbani is not a ritual, its part of ibadat. Your haj is not qubool if you deliberately dont do qurbani during haj. Length of beard is sunnat, its not a ritual. Burqa is just a way of creating pardaa that islam asked for.

Btw, on the same token, one can say that going vegetarian, having a clean shaved face and and roaming around in see through clothing is also a ritual and lets get rid of it. Its amazing that what Islam asks is a ritual and what libertarians promote becomes the natural way of life.

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Wah! :)

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@captain1 .. i am not going to re butt all to u at all, because ur just pulling my legs :smiley:
To the rest of u … please read the following article.. apparently there are more than one pakistani who thinks like that.

LAHORE: When the banks of the Indus overflowed and caused the worst floods in recent history in Pakistan this summer, millions of poor families lost not just their homes and loved ones, but their most precious economic resource: livestock.
So as Eidul Azha approaches, many Pakistanis are dedicating their sacrifice to the survivors of the floods. But instead of paying to have a goat slaughtered and the meat sent to the flood-hit areas, some are sending the whole animal instead.
“You have to ask yourself, ‘What do they need right now?’” says Ayesha Raja, who is coordinating efforts to donate livestock. “The floods caused the greatest damage to livestock, which is what people depend on for their livelihoods.”

“There are some people who are both donating livestock and sacrificing animals,” said Tamkinet Karim, director of the Bali Memorial Trust, which is sending goats and cows to widows in villages devastated by the floods. “It’s a personal thing. If people aren’t comfortable with donating livestock, we give them the chance to pay for a sacrifice.”
Mahera Omar of the Pakistan Animal Welfare (PAW) organisation has started a website and a donation initiative through Facebook in Karachi, though she is also getting donations from other cities.
“The floods wiped out almost 1.2 million large and small animals in Pakistan,” she said. “This has left people struggling for food and the scarcity will continue in the long run. It does not make sense to sacrifice more animals.”
An individual who donated to PAW lauded the initiative to send livestock to the flood-hit areas as innovative. “Why not give people a way to earn multiple meals instead of giving them a one-time meal which will have no long-term impact on their lives?”
Another Lahori who works with a civil society organisation and is planning to donate livestock said that many people were uncomfortable replacing the sacrifice with donations for religious reasons. “I’ve heard many people discuss it but they assume that Islam does not allow it,” she said.
Islamic scholar Muhammed Rafi Mufti said the initiative was commendable and would earn Allah’s blessings as an act of charity. But, he said, it was not the same as sacrificing an animal.
“You will not get the credit [sawab] related to sacrifice,” he said, adding that the sacrifice was not a duty [faraz].

…the all knowing mullahs are diwana :smiley:

Jamia Naeemia chief Raghib Naeemi differed, saying the sacrifice was compulsory. “If you do not sacrifice an animal then you should not go to Eid prayers because it is closely linked with the action of sacrifice. The Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) did not miss a sacrifice once,” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, November 16th, 2010.

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oh by btw tuesday/wednesday Eid Mubarak!
The following pictures are for my uk/us/candian brothers, because they can not perform the holly ritual in those kuffar countries out in the open!

http://i1.tribune.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Cow-Blood-AFP-640x480.jpg

http://i1.tribune.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/eid-AFP1-640x480.jpg

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Nobody is saying that it’s not a good idea to donate livestock to those who lost them. However, this does not absolve those of the duty of doing the qurbani if it’s due from them. So it’s something people can think of doing in addition to their qurbani, but not instead of it.

The latter reminds of people who say that there are better money ways of spending your money than doing hajj, such as donating it to the poor etc. The thing I’ve noticed with everyone who has said that to me is that they don’t think of “better ways to spend money” when they’re going out to buy that $5000 TV or spending tens of thousands on their childrens’ weddings. But when it comes to spending money to go to hajj, then they think of they try to think of better ways to spend money.

I can’t see those pictures, but this year I know a few people who did their qurbanis here in Canada.

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Qurbani is Farz and can not be replaced by charity. Of course, if you were to donate an animal in **addition to **the the sacrifice, that would be very commendable.

As regards your point that we follow only some rituals, I actually agree with you.