The Concept of God in Hinduism

Hinduism is a fascinating religion to study.

It frequently comes under unjustified attack from non-hindu pundits and is always accused of a nature which is somewhat derogatory. Whether that is the case or not, these pundits frequently make the same mistake. They equate the people and practices of Hinduism to the religion itself. This is misleading because not every Hindu necessarily follows Hinduism to the core. Thus the only standard which to compare Hinduism from is by looking at its own scriptures. Thus the remainder of this post is to highlight the positively beautiful things encompassed within Hinduism, and also at the same time to provide a rebuttal to the misconceptions held by some influential non-Hindu opinion leaders and pundits.

All sources have been provided and are included and referred to throughout the post.


Common Concept of God in Hinduism:

Hinduism is commonly perceived as a polytheistic religion. Indeed, most Hindus would attest to this, by professing belief in multiple Gods. While some Hindus believe in the existence of three gods, some believe in thousands of gods, and some others in thirty three crore i.e. 330 million Gods. However, learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.

The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!

Islam, on the contrary, exhorts man to consider himself and his surroundings as examples of Divine Creation rather than as divinity itself. Muslims therefore believe that everything is God’s i.e. the word ‘God’ with an apostrophe ‘s’. In other words the Muslims believe that everything belongs to God. The trees belong to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the monkey belongs to God, the snake belongs to God, the human beings belong to God and everything in this universe belongs to God.

Thus the major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim beliefs is the difference of the apostrophe ‘s’. The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God’s.

Concept of God according to Hindu Scriptures:

We can gain a better understanding of the concept of God in Hinduism by analysing Hindu scriptures.

BHAGAVAD GITA

The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.
Consider the following verse from the Gita:

“Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.

UPANISHADS:

The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.
The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:

i. “Ekam evadvitiyam”
“He is One only without a second.”

Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1

ii. “Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.”
“Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.”

Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9

iii. “Na tasya pratima asti”
“There is no likeness of Him.”

Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19

iv. The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:
“Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.”
“His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”

Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20


(1)[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 447 and 448]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 1 ‘The Upanishads part I’ page 93]

(2)[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page 263.]

(3)[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

(4)[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737]
[Sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]


THE VEDAS

Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.

  1. Yajurveda
    The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:

i. "na tasya pratima asti
“There is no image of Him.”

Yajurveda 32:3

ii. *“shudhama poapvidham”
“He is bodyless and pure.” *
Yajurveda 40:8

iii. “Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste”
“They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements”
(Air, Water, Fire, etc.).
“They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.”
Yajurveda 40:9

Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

iv. The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:

“Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander.”
Yajurveda 40:16


(5)[Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377]
(6)[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]
(7)[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]
(8)[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 541]


  1. Atharvaveda

The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:
i. “Dev maha osi”
“God is verily great”

Atharvaveda 20:58:3


9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]


  1. Rigveda

i. The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:
“Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names.”
[Rigveda 1:164:46]

ii. The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.

Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.

Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:

“Na tasya Pratima asti”
“There is no image of Him.”

[Yajurveda 32:3]

Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or ‘Sustainer’ or Vishnu. But the popular image of Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.

“Na tasya pratima asti”
“There is no likeness of Him”

The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:

iii. “Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata”
“O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone.”

Rigveda 8:1:1

iv. “Devasya samituk parishtutih”
“Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator.”

Rigveda 5:1:81

Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:
The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:

“Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan”
“There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit.”

Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.


(10)[Rigveda Samhita vol. 9, pages 2810 and 2811 by Swami Satya Prakash Sarasvati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]

(11)[Rigveda Samhita vol. 6, pages 1802 and 1803 by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]


All material is from Dr Zakir Naik, President of the Islamic Research Foundation, Mumbai.


They shoot partypoopers, don’t they?

I am impressed
I’ve learned more from this than I have learned from “for desert fox hinduisim”

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So if(hindus)read thier books than they should belive in one god, right?

Thats why I find this so astonishing.

All these sources are the most sacred of the hindu scriptures, the Rigveda in particular. They are unambiguous in their treatment of the concept of God. That there is only One God. These are not mere technical points which are elucidated upon in passing. These are core fundamentals upon which the House of Hinduism depends upon. This is what I have learnt from Hinduism.

So Muslims and Hindus should be united, if these sources are to be taken into account. But some misconception yet exists towards each other in many ways despite in having lived together so long.

So it would probably be not too far from the truth if I were to claim that differences in opinions that each community has for each other are more political in nature than they are religous.

It was said somewhere before that discussion should be like trade. Each party mutually benefits from each other because of the transaction. Discussion is also meant to be a positive sum game in exactly the same way. Unfortunately, many (not all) things I have seen in this forum are like as if each party is at war, in battle with the other. These are zero-sum games. They are fruitless.

In trying to be a good muslim, I wished to learn more about the creed of our hindu friends. Information is not hard to find at all. I have benefited from that trade in knowledge. It has increased my knowledge and insight into Hinduism. It allows me to discuss Hinduism in the right context i.e. with reference to the core of the religion.

It is astonishing in how all of these verses are almost perfectly reflected in the Holy Qu'ran. I already know that some of you may be thinking the same thing.


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

Mr Partypooper, i agree with your points 100%.As far as i can remember you are the first person here to quote from any respectable book from hinduism, most of the quotes till now have from the dalitistan site.I hope other muslims read this post and get the true idea of hinduism, insted of the garbage thats going on on the other posts

[This message has been edited by anant (edited October 17, 2000).]

The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God's<<<

IUS there realy much difference in that?

anant, thank you for your kind remarks.

I should add that my intention in posting this topic is that everybody can benefit from this knowledge, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

[quote]
Originally posted by anant:
**>>>The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God's<<<

IUS there realy much difference in that?**
[/quote]

Based on the information in the initial post I would have to say yes.

According to the Hindu Scriptures, there is a world of a difference, because the Hindu Scriptures are totally unambiguous on this point. They go as far as to condemn people who practice pantheism as the scriptures unconditionally endorse the view that there is only one Unseen God.

All the quoted sources from the Scriptures support this view.


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

*iii. "Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.).
"They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
Yajurveda 40:9
*

I disagree with the translation. Sanderson Beck translates it as

Into blind darkness enter those who follow ignorance;
into even greater darkness go those who follow knowledge.

Upnishadas are largely motheistic. But they do not condemn polytheism. Polytheism is very much a part of Hinduism.

Thankyou for your response.

Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538 is the source of the quote that I have given above. This has been compared with the Devi Chand version of the Yajurveda.

I find this somewhat confusing. Either the scriptures believe in monotheism or they don't. It can't be both ways. If you disagree with this, then are you suggesting that there is a problem with the scriptures themselves?


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

[This message has been edited by Mr Partypooper (edited October 17, 2000).]

Yet another translation says.(Eknath Eswaran)

-11. In dark night live
those for whom
The world without
alone is real; in night
Darker still, for whom
the world within
Alone is real.

Aurobindo translate it as '12.Into a blind darkness they enter who follow after the Non-Birth, they as if into a great darkness who devote themselves to the Birth alone. '

Radhakrishnan translation is same as sanderson Beck 'Into blinding darkness enter those who worship ignorance and those who delight in knowledge enter into still greater darkness, as it were. '

Juan Muscaro '9
Into deep darkness fall those who follow action. Into deeper darkness fall those who follow knowledge. '

I agree that translations are pretty different from each other so partyhopper can have his own. But I am not ready to go by it.

I did not disagree that Upanishadas are monotheistic. But they do not condemn polytheism.

A complete text of Isha Upanishad http://www.san.beck.org/Upan3-Isha.html

A better translation is by Rajneesh. But it is not on web and I am bit too lazy to type it down.

I see. I understand your point. As I understand it, the Vedas are the most sacred scriptures in Hinduism. They are also monotheistic. This seems to be consistent throughout many of the most sacred Hindu scriptures.


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

Here’s something…i don’t know if…hmmm…just some food for thought i guess:)

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/000992.html

Besides monotheistic tendencies, the upanishads are at times even monistic! much of the philosophy in some upanishads dont make any references to god/gods. dun remember which upanishads though..

prolly shall post some if i get the time.

Something from hindu holy book:

“When gods and men lived together in the world, men kept asking the gods for all that they lacked, saying, ‘We don’t have this. Let us have it.’ The gods began to hate all these demands, and they vanished.” – **Satapatha Brahmana 2:3:4:4. **

WHY THE GODS VANISHED???


V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

duh! thatz damn easy.

coz they hated all the demands.

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btw, whatz “Satapatha Brahmana 2:3:4:4” ? can you write two lines on what it is?

So, gods are suppose to hate the demands that their creations are making?

What you mean write 2 line, isn’t it a holy book of hindus? Does it still exist? Is it still “VALID”?

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Why don’t you tell us.


V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited October 18, 2000).]

So, gods are suppose to hate the demands that their creations are making? <

why not? if you ask god for your neighbour's wife, you think he'll be delighted?

What you mean write 2 line, isn't it a holy book of hindus? Does it still exist? Is it still "VALID"? <

you should be telling, coz you are the one who brought it up out of the blue, like an expert on hinduism. care to enlighten us? a statement with no indication of the context is useless. c'mon, give us the details.

Watcher, are you sure you got the right context of that quote?

I mean, it looks obvious but is it?


They shoot partypoopers, don't they?

Off course it is, if it was not, my friend queer here would/should have corrected that text.

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V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**