The Answer to, "Who Created Allaah?"

“From Aishah, may Allaah be pleased with her, that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “Indeed the devil comes to you and says, ‘Who created you?’ He says, ‘Allaah.’ He says, ‘So who created Allaah?’ So when one of you finds that *, let him read, ‘I believe in Allaah and His Messengers,’ for verily that will leave him.” Silsilah 116 Hasan]

From Abu Hurairah, may Allaah be pleased with him, who said, “The Prophet of Allaah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “The devil comes to one of you and says, ‘Who created such and such? Who created such and such? Who created such and such?’ Until he says, ‘Who created your Lord?’ When he reaches that [level], then let one seek refuge with Allaah and refrain from such thoughts.” [Bukhaari and Muslim, Silsilah no. 117]

“The people are about to question each other, such that one of them will say, ‘(This saying of yours that) Allaah created the creation (is well-known), so who created Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic?’ When they say that, then say, ‘Allaah is One. Allaah is the Self-Sufficient Master. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none co-equal or comparable to Him.’ Then let him spit [dry-spit] to his left three times and seek refuge from the Devil.” Silsilah 118 Hasan] [Trans. note: the additions in parentheses () were taken from Awn al-Ma’bood.]

Shaikh al-Albaani said, “These authentic hadiths show that it is incumbent upon the one to whom the Devil has whispered by saying, ‘Who created Allaah?’ to turn away from arguing with him and instead answer him with what has been reported in the aforementioned hadiths.
And the summary is that he should say:

آمَنْتُ بِاللهِ وَرُسُلِهِ
اللهُ أَحَدٌ اللهُ الصَّمَدُ
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ

**Āmantu billāhi wa rusulihi̱.
Allāhu Aḥad. Allāhus-Ṣamad.
Lam yalid, wa lam yūlad.
Wa lam yakullahū kufuwan aḥad.
**
‘I believe in Allaah and His Messengers.
Allaah is One. Allaah is the Self-Sufficient Master.
He begets not, nor was He begotten.
And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.’

Then spit to his left three times and then seek refuge with Allaah from the Devil and finally refrain from drifting away with the whisperings.
[HR][/HR]And I believe that whoever does that, out of obedience to Allaah and His Messenger, being sincere in that, then the whisperings will certainly leave him. And his devil will be vanquished, due to his saying صلى الله عليه وسلم, “… for verily that will leave him.”

And this noble, prophetic instruction is more beneficial and more final in terminating the whisperings than logical argumentation in this issue. For indeed argumentation rarely benefits in issues such as it.

And what a pity it is that most people are ignorant of this precious, prophetic instruction!

So take heed, O Muslims!

And become acquainted with the Sunnah of your Prophet, and act upon it–for verily, in it is your cure and your honour.”

*Silsilah, *vol. 1, pp., 233-236.

Taken from: Revive a Sunnah: The Answer to, “Who Created Allaah?!” | The Albaani Site*

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If God was created, He would be a creation. Now, The Absolute Creator being a creation Himself is a complete paradox. Also, for one to be created, there needs to be a particular time at which one was created and a particular place where one was created. Time and place being creations of the God, how then can He be created? Finally, if He was created, what triggered His creation? Whatever it was, why is 'that thing' not God since it clearly predates God and 'created' God, thereby is/was superior to God (Nauzubillah)?

Simply put: He has no beginning nor end, and because He simply can not. A start and an end (a limited life) are attributes of the created, not the Creator.
هُوَ الْأَوَّلُ وَالْآخِرُ وَالظَّاهِرُ وَالْبَاطِنُ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ {3}
He is the First and the Last and the Ascendant (over all) and the Knower of hidden things, and He is Cognizant of all things. (57:3)

And ofcourse:
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ {3}
He begets not, nor is He begotten. (112:3)

Read Nahjul Balagha as it has got some of the most amazing words of Imam Ali in it on many interesting subjects such as this one.

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*Kitaab al Tawheed, Sheikh Sadooq, ch. 28, narration # 3 *

A man asked Ameerul Momineen about when Allah (azw) came into being?

Imam Ali (as) said; “When did He (God) not exist so that it may be asked when did He (begin to) exist? My Lord preceded the beginning and is without any begining. He will remian after the end without an end.”

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a proper infestation
of shaitans whispers

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Subhan Allah!

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Na tha kuch tu khuda tha,


Na kuch hota tu Khuda hota,***


Daboya Mujh ko hone ne,***


Na hota main tu Kya hota!***

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Humans.

We created Allah. We created God. We created Bhagwaan.

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What is that supposed to mean?

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sharaabee bhai, nobody could claim that they have created themselves in their mother's womb or even claim absolute ownership of any of the creatures that serve us day and night around us. A owner of a donkey may ride it or use it to carry burden but if the owner was to starve it to death or burn it alive then the whole society would condemn this man and his action.
If we were the creators of any of the creation around us then why is our ownership -and our knowledge about them- limited? and if you agree that we are not the absolute makers or say owners of the creation around is then it leads to the question, who is?

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We created them in our head.. to make ourselves feel better about stuff we don't know the answer to.. to feel that there is a pattern to life and this is going somewhere..

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wow that's one confusing post :)

see my last post for what I really meant.. I thought it was obvious.

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Actually I do not like over complex subjects either. May be this children’s cartoon will demonstrate the point better.


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To the OP- all the divine books are full of discourses on the existence of God so how could it be prohibited? Quran repeatedly asks for contemplation. Truth seeks the light and desires investigation but error seeks the shadow and intimidates.

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Its a common trend, when we rnt satisfied with what we have... we point fingers at every one. Yes you have created ur Bhagwan... We dont worship the one we created that is the most basic thing about Islam.

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Peace,

Surah Iklas or Purity (of Faith), is early Meccan Sura sums up in a few terse words the Unity of the Godhead-often professed, but frequestly mixed up in the popular mind with debasing superstitions. The nature of God is here indicated to us in a few words, such as we can understand. The qualities of God are described in numerous places elsewhere, e.g., in Surah Al Hashar verses 1 and 22 - 24, Surah Al Jummah verses 1, Surah Al Baqarah verses 255. Here we are specially taught to avoid the pitfalls into which men and nations have fallen at various times in trying to understand God.

The first thing we have to note is that His nature is so sublime, so far beyond our limited conceptions, that the best way in which we can realise Him nature is to feel that He is Personality, "He" and not a mere abstract conception of philosophy. He is near us; He cares for us; we owe our existence to Him.

Secondly He is the One and Only God, the Only One to Whom worship is due; all other things or beings that we can think of are His creatures and in no way comparable to Him.

Thirdly, He is Eternal, without beginning or end, Absolute, not limited by time or place or circumstance, the Reality before which all other things or places are mere shadows or reflections.

Fourthly, we must not think of Him as hav ing a son or a father, for that would be to import animal qualities into our conception of Him.

Fifthly, He is not like any other person or thing that we know or can imagine: His qualities and nature are unique.

This is negative the idea of Polytheism, a system in which people believe in gods many and lords many. Such a system is opposed to our trust and profoundest conceptions of life. For Unity in Design, Unity in the fundamental facts of existence, proclaim the Unity of the Maker.

"Sammad" word in Surah Iklas is difficult to translate by one word. It used or translated in two, "Eternal" and "Absolute". The latter implies:

(1) that absolute existence can only e predicated of Him; all other existence is temporal or conditional;
(2) that He is dependent on no person or thing, but all person or things are dependent on Him, thus negativing the idea of gods and goddesses who ate and drank, wrangled and plotted, depend on the gifts of worshippers, etc.

Third verses of Surah Ikhlas is to negative the Christian idea of the godhead, "the Father," "the only-begotten Son," etc.

And the last verses of same surah sums up the whole argument and warns us specially against Anthropomorphism, the tendency to conceive of God after our own pattern, an insidious tendency that creeps in at all times and among all peoples.

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The existence of something is not evidence of it’s creation in the way the religions claim so.

I don’t deny that there could be some sort of a creator or something that caused creation of the universe.. I just don’t buy all stories of the big man in the sky and his twisted punishment logics and expectations..

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Physical creation.. mental creation.. same thing to me.. at the end of the day... it's all a big delusion..

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Quran is Awesome

[Shakir 109:1] Say: O unbelievers!
[Shakir 109:2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[Shakir 109:3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[Shakir 109:4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[Shakir 109:5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[Shakir 109:6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

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cheers to "live and let live"