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You must hope this board is populated by uneducated illiterates who don't know any better! (Well, I know there are a few - I read their rantings daily!)
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No but i know quite a few uneducated illiterate right wing americans and slavery advocates on this board who spend there evenings posting gibberish!
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*Originally posted by mrpockets: *
Treatment of Native Americans was deplorable, but, you can't judge by men of 200 years ago (when the first slaves arrived.) by todays standards. Well, you can, but, it's foolish...
The slave trade was initiated by Africans selling their own and Arabs for the slave markets - historical FACT. As stated previously in numerous posts, the American slave trade is a blip on the rader of the history of slavery. For Africans and Arabs to continuely cry "Slavery!" is the "pot calling the kettle black", no pun itended. Both groups have much more to account for - if no one was selling there would have been nothing to buy, right? Whether they choose to acknowledge their collective history or not... reports are that it's still practiced in areas of Muslim Africa.
And, please, please point out the ongoing discrimination you claim - I'll anxiously await your response
Prisons full of mexicans and afro-americans - are you saying they didn't commit crimes, but, are jailed because of race? Sorry, not in America!
And, I know some blacks and mexicans that would laugh at your calling their nice suburban homes ghettos!
Maybe many of those who remain impoverished are too busy blaming "Whitey" to take advantage of the opportunities America offers. Most of the nations in the world can't touch America for equal opportunity! Can yours? Tell me all about it - I can't wait!
And, as if Iraq could talk about the killing of innocents - PLEASE!
You must hope this board is populated by uneducated illiterates who don't know any better! (Well, I know there are a few - I read their rantings daily!)
Peace To All Who Read This...
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What a shallow argument just because it happened in the past doesnt make it ok or right. On the same basis we could say 9/11 happened 15 months ago.
And lets not forget Japan. Where American dropped nuclear bombs in Nagazaki and Hirshomia killing over 200,000 ppl (this was at a time when the japenese were abt to surrender).... oh yea i guess USA has got a valid excuse for that and it happened 50 yrs ago!
And lets also not forget Vietenam, where USA carpet bombed the country with orange gas...oh well guess USA has got a valid excuse for that as well and it happened abt 30 yrs ago.
And lets not forget the 500,000 Iraqi kids who have died because of the UN sanctions. The sanctions have not affected Saddam one bit but the UN still contines the sanction knowing full well that they will affect the citezens of iraq and not saddam!
if islam is such a 'complete' ideology as some here claim then why is it that it doesn't seem to have provided a harmonious solution for following people?
any answer?
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if islam is such a 'complete' ideology as some here claim then why is it that it doesn't seem to have provided a harmonious solution for following people?
any answer?
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When a Muslim stands up for what he believes in he is an Islamic fundamentalist. What about the Hindu fundamentalists in India who massacre women and children, and burn people alive and burn down places of worship? Or the Zionist fundamentalists who drive people out of their homes and murder women and children and destroy homes? Or the American fundamentalists who have done and will murder thousands for economic & strategic gains? Or the Christian fundamentalists who burn down places of worship etc?
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No but i know quite a few uneducated illiterate right wing americans and slavery advocates on this board who spend there evenings posting gibberish!
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Ivan Drago
If your going to use the term "uneducated", you might trouble to use "their" instead of "there"! ;)
And, how, dear Sir, do you come up with proposition that I am an advocate of slavery?
P.S. I also post "gibberish", as you call it, in the mornings!
Clubber Lang -
Which of my statements is shallow? You might at least make an effort to refute the statements I posted before moving on to other issues! It's alright - I'll wait!
Peace To All Who Read This...
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When a Muslim stands up for what he believes in he is an Islamic fundamentalist.
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you call osama, mushraf, saddam & co 'standing up for what he believes in? will you try and not run away from the question (by sidetracking to Hinduism and christianty etc) and answer:
if islam is such a 'complete' ideology as some here claim then why is it that it doesn't seem to have provided a harmonious solution for following people?
any answer?
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1. the islamist fundamentalists who poison the minds of youngsters
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Just like anyone can get up and make a bomb of fuel which is an essential of a society today, right?
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3. in spite of being the dominant source of world's oil energy, why is the middle east where almost all countires are islamic and where it is said to have originated, is in such strife for so long?
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ever heard about European colonization? break up of "Ottoman Empire"? and "divide and rule" technique of Britishers? India has been a very dominating country but "Kashmir problem" still exists? England/Iretland (i think i remember correctly) problem still exists, so many others..... so many factors that u lose ur count.
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4. why hasn't such 'comprehensive ideology' been able to convince people living so close (Jews) for so many centuries?
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ever heard of "stubborn"? "in state of denial"?
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5. why in countries openly following such islamic ideology, the econmic condition and political will of most of the population is suppressed by a few?
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There is NO country following this ideology so can't tell :p
http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85889#post1256737
besides skipping question #2, the answers to the other 4 all have one common method:justification based on “hey others also dio it”. but none of th e’others’ claim to have a complete ideology as was claimed for islam by some here. in fact i even posed these questions only because the so called comlete ideology did not seem to cover these mainstream muslim issues of current era. are you then suggesting that it was complete in the past but not anymore? or that the other ideologies are as complete too?
Looks like some fundos here know nothing about secularism, capitalism but were sent here to promote their mindless, senseless, unworthy, hate-mongering semi-jihadi organization.