The 4th Calif - Ali Karam Allah Wajho - Sunni Only

Kaleem · January 11, 2006, 4:23pm

Re: The 4th Calif - Ali Karam Allah Wajho - Sunni Only

Lets not get caught up in generalizations. Which one of the guppies do you know for a fact that have participated in these activities? Cursing Sahabas is akin to questioning the judgement of none other than Muhammad:saw: himself.

shweetdreamz:

a straight answer for what kaleem? i read somewhere a while ago in a hadith exactly what i said. There is countless ahadith in bukhari that degrade the prophet and other prophet like moses..(one which comes to mind is moses bathing and a rock running away with his clothes and moses running naked after the rock), countless others on how the prophet dreamed of aisha while she was 6 before sha had attained puberty and telling abu bakr he wanted to marry her. YOU can go look them up because i dont see you asking debater for proof when he brings up some anti-shia forum as proof lolz. as i asked before…the first offensive post was by jaan leva and i didnt see u getting your panties in a knot over that. Or is it just my existence on this forum that u find annoying (which is just too bad because there aint much u can do about it)
regardless, this thread is of a different topic altogether. if i ever post such a thing in a relevant thread then u can ask me for proof.
last advice is that if it gets your panties in a bunch when i talk about islam being manmade, the same way it bothers some shias too when you call their customs man-made. everything good and right did not only exist between the coming of muhammad and end of 3rd khalifa. but as i said it is futile to argue because beliefs/faith is an individuals and just like you can never change my mind with a quote from so and so that lived years ago, i cannot change yours…however if u do not go nuts over anti-shia comments while claiming to respect Ali then dont go nuts over my statements either (unless u wanna just admit its a personal thing)

Shweety, if you have read my previous posts in the religion forum you will see that I do not belive in all ahadiths…as a matter of fact I only believe in the ahadith that do not go against Quran. It is a pretty simple rule that I was taught by my father and I belive it to be the best to judge the authenticity of any hadith.
It does not bother me at all that you “exist” on this forum. You can call Islam manmade all you want, that is your opinion. I question the validity of Karbala “quotes” mind you, I said quotes not events. These quotes are used to charge the emotions of the shias to a stage that they are foaming at the mouth and start spewing disgusting words for the companions of Muhammad:saw:. It is disgraceful and uncalled for.
As far as ant-shai comments are concerned, there are plenty of “you” around to defend in a manner you see fit. You see, I did not attack you or Memsahib personally(in this thread) , yoou started it. If you are going to dish it out, be prepared to take it too. Now answer my question, How many marsiayahs written are actually based on facts and how many are made up stories?