Re: The 4th Calif - Ali Karam Allah Wajho - Sunni Only
Lajawab, have you not learnt yet. You are not going to get a straight answer from Mem Sahib or Shweety.
a straight answer for what kaleem? i read somewhere a while ago in a hadith exactly what i said. There is countless ahadith in bukhari that degrade the prophet and other prophet like moses..(one which comes to mind is moses bathing and a rock running away with his clothes and moses running naked after the rock), countless others on how the prophet dreamed of aisha while she was 6 before sha had attained puberty and telling abu bakr he wanted to marry her. YOU can go look them up because i dont see you asking debater for proof when he brings up some anti-shia forum as proof lolz. as i asked before...the first offensive post was by jaan leva and i didnt see u getting your panties in a knot over that. Or is it just my existence on this forum that u find annoying (which is just too bad because there aint much u can do about it)
regardless, this thread is of a different topic altogether. if i ever post such a thing in a relevant thread then u can ask me for proof.
last advice is that if it gets your panties in a bunch when i talk about islam being manmade, the same way it bothers some shias too when you call their customs man-made. everything good and right did not only exist between the coming of muhammad and end of 3rd khalifa. but as i said it is futile to argue because beliefs/faith is an individuals and just like you can never change my mind with a quote from so and so that lived years ago, i cannot change yours.....however if u do not go nuts over anti-shia comments while claiming to respect Ali then dont go nuts over my statements either (unless u wanna just admit its a personal thing)