Thank God! Pak Government intends to alter blasphemy law

This heinous law should be ditched altogether. It is bad for minorities, but it is worse for majority Muslims of Pak.

This law is only suitable in the land of tree dwelling primitive tribals.

No civilized group deserves to be subjected to the whims of Mullah.

Government intends to alter blasphemy law

Thursday, 25 Feb, 2010 | 12:07 PM PST |

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani government plans to change its blasphemy law to check its misuse by extremist groups, officials said on Thursday.

The law, which carries the death penalty for insulting Islam or its prophet, is a highly sensitive issue in Pakistan, which is more than 95 per cent Muslim. Previous governments have failed to reform the law because of opposition from powerful hardline Islamic groups.

Liberal and secular groups have called for the repeal of the blasphemy law altogether, which they say discriminates against religious minorities.

However, the US-allied government of President Asif Ali Zardari, which is fighting an Islamist insurgency, says it plans to reform the law instead.

“We are holding consultative meetings with representatives of minorities and political parties, as well as with Muslim clerics,” Minister for Minorities Affairs Shahbaz Bhatti told Reuters.

“Some elements misuse the law to create violence and disharmony in society. To stop that misuse, we are proposing legislation.”

He declined to say when the government planned to propose the changes.

Blasphemy convictions are common in Pakistan, although the death sentence has never been carried out. Most convictions are thrown out on appeal or because of lack of evidence.

However, angry mobs have killed many people, mostly members of religious minorities.

Religious minorities, mostly Christians, account for roughly four per cent of Pakistan’s 170 million people.

Christians have long complained about the law because it offers no protection if a Muslim accuses them of violations such as tearing a page of the Quran, and many accusations are levelled to settle personal scores. Just making an accusation is usually considered sufficient evidence to register a case.

Bhatti declined to elaborate on the proposed amendments but a government official said authorities were exploring “procedural changes” that might provide for registering a case only after an investigation and on the orders of a judge.

An official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the government may also propose that a suspect be prosecuted only if it is established that he had “intentionally and wilfully”
committed blasphemy.

Islamic parties have opposed changes in the law because of suspicions that pro-Western, liberal groups seek to dilute Pakistan’s Islamic identity.

Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman, a prominent cleric, said they were ready to cooperate with authorities to stop extremist groups abusing the law.

“If they bring about change to stop its misuse with our consultation than it’s okay,” he said. “But if they did it unilaterally, then it will promote hatred and extremism.”

The law was introduced by Pakistan’s former military ruler General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq in the 1980s in an effort to bring Pakistani law more in line with Islamic principles.

Another military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, tried to reform these laws in 2000, months after he seized power in a coup, but backed down after widespread protests from hardline Islamic groups.

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Re: Thank God! Pak Government intends to alter blasphemy law

Can someone post the law here, as it stands now.

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allah na karay aisa ho .............. there is no problem with the law.

problem with our judicial system that sometime cases are not tried in fair manner. but that not problem specific to blasphemy law.

nobody shud be allowed to profanity and say things that may offend the religious susceptibility. and in many cases in the history ppl have been punished under this law rightfully both including muslim and non muslim.

its a stupid idea if the few christian ppl think that the law is adversely affect them as they have not been given the required opportunity to prove accusation false.
u need to improve the judicial system rather than to amend the law. court works on the basis on proof and witness not on one personal wishes and desires. beside many muslims have also been tried under this law.

@burqaposh

bhoolay badshah ........... nobody confess his crime in the court and always that i m innocent. and what is ur opinion about the person who commits the act of profanity.

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The Prophet didn't order to punish people who have committed blasphemy but left them to be judged by Allah Almighty. Who the hell are you people to make up such laws?

Many Islamists and the supporters of this barbaric law fail to notice that::::

--- There were many many people who abused Mohammad pbuh VERBALLY and PHYSICALLY.
========= DO YOU KNOW how Mohammad pbuh responded to such "profanity"?

--- Even during war, Sahaba were spat upon and cursed.

========= DO YOU KNOW how SAHABA responded to such "profanity"?

They forgave the offender right on the spot.

And now we have these terrible tribal culture that permeates in the name of Islam and so called protection of hurmat.

Ignoring the very behavior of Mohammad pbuh and his companions.

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Dair Aaid Durst Aaid

so then it is a problem with the law as it cant be implemented in spirit.

Prophet PBUH was larger than life and it doesnt make a difference in his honor if a nut thinks otherwise .

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hope they actually repeal this barbarity in the name of law.

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^^ Yes.

Ameen!

this rubbish law should be repealed in its entirety. has been a source of shame for so long. time to do away with this travesty.

Re: Thank God! Pak Government intends to alter blasphemy law

Blasphemy law in Ireland - Who asked for Ireland’s blasphemy law? | Padraig Reidy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Blasphemy law in the UK - Blasphemy law in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess we are very barbaric and behind the times indeed.

Text of Pakistan’s Blasphemy Law: Blasphemy law in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oddly enough according to the consitution 295 A - B protect all minorities. Only 295 C is the one under scurtiny.

Re: Thank God! Pak Government intends to alter blasphemy law

^ the barbarism is in how it is used in practice. An accidental or unknowing tearing of a page out of quran should not be cause of prosecution just because some zealot took offence. A teacher's attempt to make his students think should not make him a criminal.
Contrast that with what happened in Ireland, from the very same links you provided.

The barbarism is not in the term 'blasphemy' - it is in how Pakistan conveniently used the term and the law.

....re the Ireland thing...
"However, no one ever bothered to formulate what the exact offence might be, and we muddled on for quite a long time without anyone worrying about this (perhaps, as a friend pointed out to me, because all blasphemous material was grabbed by the all-powerful censors long before it could ever get to court). In 1999, there was an attempt to prosecute a newspaper for a cartoon mocking the church, but the judge in that case noted that he could not prosecute, because there was no definition of what legally constituted blasphemy. Well now there is. And it concerns itself with what might or might not cause "outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of [a] religion" (note, not just Christianity, as was the case with English blasphemy law: this is, at least, equal opportunities idiocy)."

As the author notes, the Irish and Brits may be termed equal opportunuty idiots not barbarians (in this respect).

You know the CM types are quick to jump and say look Irish are doing the Irish are doing.

But this is like the same aping that the Islamists do of Arab Biduins, aping without any study, any context any siaqo sabaq.

Those who want to use Irish argument to support horrible hadood laws in Pak are gravely mistaken.

If Irish were bunch of primitive tribals burning and looting their fellow countrymen due the so called blasphemy laws, then off course we would reference them.

The problem is that Hodood laws in Pakistan have added loads of fuel to the raging fire of intolerance. And that's why it is extremely important to remove the filthy fuel aka hadood laws out of the Pak fire.

And CM, be as humble, as civilized as Irish before lecturing us on their laws.

Thank you.

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LMAO! Poshspice. Its good to see you haven’t grown out of the Colonial mentality. Still serving the white skin eh?

Now on to the clauses.

295 - States that all places of worship are to be protected. I certainly hope nobody has objections to that. Well Poshspice will. He wants to burn down all Mosques that “could be taliban”.

295 A - Says religious sentiments should not be outraged. Meaning You shouldn’t insult any religious issue of sensitivity. Applies to all minorities. Nobody should have a problem with that. But then again Poshspice may wish to change that so it doesn’t apply to Islam.

295 B - Says you can not defile the Quran. Any Muslim would say that is a valid observation. Why burn our holy book. Well again Posh spice may have an objection that. He may infact wish to Burn the Quran as part of Freedom of Speech.

295 C - Insultin the Prophet. Again why would we as Muslims accept that our Prophet is insulted? We had a problems with those pathetic Cartoons. So why not apply our rules ourselves?

Link to text of 295 B and C.
Blasphemy laws in Pakistan

Abay dumbass Hudood and Blasphemy laws are two different things. As always your ability to open your mouth and stick your foot right into it amazes me.

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Parroting the text without looking at their consequence is an old old tradition of Juhala. Abu Jahil similarly used to mock the message of peace (aka Islam).

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LMAO! Someone who confuses the Hudood Ordinance for the Blasphemy laws would know a lot about consequences of the law :hehe:

Simple questions Posh Spice:

  1. Do you think the Government of Pakistan should allow the Burning of the Quran without any punishment?

  2. Do you think the Government of Pakistan should allow the Holy Prophet (PBUH) to be insulted without consequence?

Yes or No will suffice.

So you want to say that before the draconian blasphemy laws were instituted, there were people who were performing a daily ritual of burning quran by the truckload?

What an e$tupeed argument!

Can you show us the if and when and how many Qurans were burnt before the blasphemy laws?

Once you have educated yourself on Pak history (and not Sudanese history) you will realize that, blasphemy laws have been used by Mullahs to conducted fake burnings. And then use the blasphemy laws to burn the minorities.

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Answer the questions. Yes or No.

You see you won't answer them because you are a scared little man child. Afraid if you did show your true feelings you would infact prove you wish to insult Islam.

I am going to let you slide this time. The laws stay. But make the rule requiring the actual applicablity far more stringent. Requiring higher levels of proof and anybody seen as insighting choas to be shot.

There you go snookums. I let you off the hook.

could you enlighten us with few examples from Mohammad pbuh's actions that clearly show that

----- disrespecting Mohammad pbuh = disrespecting Islam

---- Disrespecting Quranic page = disrespecting Islam

Shabash.

Re: Thank God! Pak Government intends to alter blasphemy law

Why? Who ever said that the laws are based on the actions of the Prophet?