I heard test tube baby procedure is not allowed in islam is it true?
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How is it different from any other medical procedure. Of people can have medications to have babies, to extend life, to fight life limiting illnesses why not have ivf?
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as long as the sperm and the egg come from legally married couple, it is Halaal.
It's allowed, egg and sperm must be from married couple.
Is it allowed if a couple choose a surrogate.... when the fertilized egg is biologically from a married couple but growing within another womans body?
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^ nope...surrogacy is not allowed in Islam.
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^ nope...surrogacy is not allowed in Islam.
Despite the egg and sperm belonging to the married couple? So its not biologically the surrogates child?
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^ Islamically, you can not 'rent' a womb.
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Please don't use the term "teat tube baby" it's kind of insulting to those of us who have suffered through infertility and have had to go through IVF.
KKF is correct in that as long as the sperm/egg is of the married couple it is halal/permissible. Surrogacy and using donor egg/sperm is not permissible. When consulting Islamic authority, I was told to adopt if IVF did not work, but not to resort to surrogacy, even if the sperm and egg were our own. It's the using of a third party's body that makes it haram.
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I am no authority on Islamic shariah, but mullahs keep revising the medical related fatwas after every two decades, so I don't trust them a lot in these matters. They gave the same haram fatwa about blood and organ transplant, and ivf procedure.
Tell me why surrogacy is haraam? Give me a good reason from your wisdom, not a fatwa of mufti this or sheikh that.
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I am no authority on Islamic shariah, but mullahs keep revising the medical related fatwas after every two decades, so I don't trust them a lot in these matters. They gave the same haram fatwa about blood and organ transplant, and ivf procedure.
Tell me why surrogacy is haraam? Give me a good reason from your wisdom, not a fatwa of mufti this or sheikh that.
We didn't consult some random self appointed internet quack mufti. Our Imam is a world renowned scholar and academic and is actually known for his moderate views. This is pretty much how he broke it down for me and I have to say, as a person who is moderate as well in terms of religion, I do agree that using a third parties body as a gestational carrier can open up a whole can of worms and problems for all involved. When using a sperm or egg donor, obviously paternity and lineage is at stake. When using a uterine host/gestational carrier/surrogate, again, lineage and claims to the child are questionable. Though biologicaly, the child may not belong to the surrogate, she is carrying another man's child which crosses into the territory of Zina.
The Council of the Islamic Fiqh Academy holding its third session, in Amman, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, From 8 to 13 Safar 1407 H (11 to 16 October 1986), after having reviewed the studies on the subject of “Artificial insemination” and having listened to the experts and physicians, and after investigation, It became evident to the Council that there are seven (7) known methods, used nowadays, for artificial insemination:
Hence, the council decided on the following:
Firstly, the following five (5) methods are all Islamically forbidden and absolutely prohibited for its own sake or due to the consequences manifested in employing them of the lineage being confused and loss of motherhood and other Shariah prohibited matters. These methods are:
1) The fertilization taking place between the sperm taken from the husband and the eggs taken from a woman who is not his wife, and then the fertilized ovum being implanted into the womb of his wife.
2) The fertilization taking place between the sperm taken from a man who is not the husband and the eggs taken from the wife, and then the fertilized ovum being implanted into the womb of the wife.
3) The fertilization taking place in-vitro between the sperm and the eggs taken from the spouses, and then the fertilized ovum being implanted into the womb of a volunteer woman (i.e. surrogate motherhood).
4) The fertilization taking place in-vitro between the sperm of a man and eggs of a woman who are both strangers to one another, and then the fertilized ovum being implanted into the womb of another man’s wife.
5) The fertilization taking place in-vitro between the sperm and the eggs taken from the spouses, and then the fertilized ovum is implanted into the womb of the husband’s other wife.
Secondly, there is no problem in resorting to the sixth or seventh method, in case of necessity, provided all required precautions are taken. These two methods are:
7) The sperm of the husband and the eggs of the wife are taken and fertilized in-vitro, and then the fertilized ovum is implanted into the womb of the wife.
8) Artificial insemination, by taking the sperm of the husband and inserting it in the appropriate place of his wife’s womb, for fertilization. (See: Qararat wa tawsiyyat Majma’ al-Fiqh al-Islami, P. 34-35)
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Khatti, I totally understand the social taboo and ick factor associated with the whole concept, but the definition of Zina is very different than just mixing a sperm with an egg. Zina is the name of an act, and not a chemical reaction
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Khatti, I totally understand the social taboo and ick factor associated with the whole concept, but the definition of Zina is very different than just mixing a sperm with an egg. Zina is the name of an act, and not a chemical reaction
When your child is conceived by someone else's DNA (sperm or egg donor) then doesn't that cast doubt on paternity and lineage? This is pretty clear cut wouldn't you say?
And as far as the reference to Zina goes, that is in regard to a women carrying another man's child in her body, not the actual process that happens in a Petrie dish in a lab. I don't feel like I am qualified enough to interpret the ruling...I struggled enough with this when I was going through it and my own body failed me . I had to go with my gut instinct and follow and trust what I was told by a trusted scholar.
In any case, IMO, adoption is much more honorable and the way to go if all else fails.
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Please don't take me wrong. I am not questioning anyone's choices, let alone yours. I am sure that even if all the above are permissible, even then you would have gone for the same option that you opted for. If my wife and I had to pick, we would've picked the same.
And I can't agree with you more about adoption. In fact, only few days ago, wife and I were talking about it for ourselves. Funny enough, we were doing it in front of our daughters, and little one's jaw dropped when she heard us talking, cause that means her status as the baby of the house could get lost.
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And about lineage and paternity; that issue is not religious specific, so whatever the law says about it could work. After all, the doubt and questions would remain the same even for Christian or a Jew couple.
But I am sure that non muslims couples for most of the part would go for thier own egg and sperm option
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But it is religious specific…if an infertile couple uses the sperm of another man to conceive a child, then won’t you have mehram/non mehram and inheritance issues? 
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My heart says yes, my mind says no
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Re: Test tube baby(ivf) allowed in islam?
Please don't use the term "teat tube baby" it's kind of insulting to those of us who have suffered through infertility and have had to go through IVF.
KKF is correct in that as long as the sperm/egg is of the married couple it is halal/permissible. Surrogacy and using donor egg/sperm is not permissible. When consulting Islamic authority, I was told to adopt if IVF did not work, but not to resort to surrogacy, even if the sperm and egg were our own. It's the using of a third party's body that makes it haram.
"Third parties" have been used to nurse for generations, and it has been permissable. I would hesitate to condemn an act that seems more complicated as simply haram.
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^ any woman who breastfeeds a baby will become the baby's mother and any other child being breastfed by the same lady at the same time will become 'doodh shareek' siblings. those two siblings will be maHram for each other.
my eldest brother has a 'doodh-shareek' sister and they are like real brother and sister.
so, breastfeeding is NOT same as surrogacy and for this reason surrogacy is not allowed in Islam while breastfeeding is.
our own Prophet [saws] was breastfed by Dai Halima who He loved like his own mother.
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^ Exactly. So if people who shared a surrogate/womb were known to each other and seen as mehram, wouldn't it be okay?