Terrorists kill five, take four kids hostage in Jammu

[aam_bandha]

Its disgusting that you justify the occupation of Kashmiris with a bunch of signatures. The problem is here and now. The Kashmiris want freedom and have wanted from the start. Nobody cares what signatures you have to show.

Besides, if we look at history, Kashmiris were promised a referendum. That promise still stands.

So much for signatures ... you know occupation of Baluchistan is also justified on one signature ......

[teggy]

Teggy ... you are quick to condemn any sort of violence .... be it in India / Pakistan or anywhere ....

However i did not see any reaction to this news ... do you consider these people to be terrorists or freedom fighters?

Infact I wanted to ask Teggy the same question in the morning but somehow missed it.

Killing or harming of any innocent civilian is condemnable, no matter who is doing it, no matter who the victim.

[teggy]

So much for signatures ... you know occupation of Baluchistan is also justified on one signature ......

That's a tangent post. Balochistan has nothing to do with this. Please stick to the topic.

Thanks.

[aam_bandha]

Killing or harming of any innocent civilian is condemnable, no matter who is doing it, no matter who the victim.

That is good ... so you can use this as a yardstick to differentiate between terrorists and freedom fighters ..... last time you you asked, you were not clear on this ..... cheers

[teggy]

That is good ... so you can use this as a yardstick to differentiate between terrorists and freedom fighters ..... last time you you asked, you were not clear on this ..... cheers

Because i was trying to put into perspective that not all Kashmiri folks who want independence should be labeled as terrorists (i wasn't accusing you of calling them that, just saying it). They're freedom fighters.

If anyone kills an innocent civilian intentionally, he/she is no longer a freedom fighter, on the contrary that person or group is committing terror. Murder of one innocent person is as if you've murdered an entire community.

[mercenary2k]

@gesto

Lol… Dude get ur facts right. Muslims conversion to Hinduism has gone up.No Hindu is converting to lslam,barring isolated single incidents.Back in 80’s there were a couple of incidents in which Hindus converted to Islam in large numbers(Dalits,after they were deprieved of their rights by upper caste Hindus),especially a village in Tamil Nadu which garnered attention.but just look at the pathetic scenario.People are converting back to Hinduism now

You had a Muslim dominated East pakistan,where it is gone ?

You have Muslim dominated Balochistan.Do they consider as Pakistanis?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Muslism converting to Hinduism?

Have you gone completely bonkers?

Please give me 1 example, just 1 example of a Muslim converting to Hinduism

Every single day there are riots in India when Hindu nationalists find out that more and more Hindus are either converting to Islam or Christianity

Hindu India will be extinct by the end of this century

Just do this, find me a video of a muslim person converting to Hinduism and renouncing Islam

Here is a video of Hindu converting to Islam

[Magic_Stick]

Re: Terrorists kill five, take four kids hostage in Jammu

Why is it important if people stop blindly believing in one ancient theory and start blindly believing in another?

It's more important that innocent people are dying, no matter what country or ancient theory they belong to. You all need to overcome your nationalist biases and agendas and start acting more humane. Pakistanis keep exploiting the Kashmiri issue, Hindustanis keep exploiting the Baloch issue. Both of you have enough problems in your own countries. Work towards fixing them first before pointing fingers at the other side.

[pakistan4life]

That's a tangent post. Balochistan has nothing to do with this. Please stick to the topic.

Thanks.

lol, Every Indian counter argument is based on tangents. You can argue about carrots, and they will still end up bringing in Baluchistan.

God forbid the day we actually discuss Kashmir.

[aam_bandha]

@pakistan4life

lol, Every Indian counter argument is based on tangents. You can argue about carrots, and they will still end up bringing in Baluchistan.

God forbid the day we actually discuss Kashmir.

It is not a tangent .... Kashmiri's have a right to ask for independence as much as the Baluchis or banglas had ...... so people asking for independence will get treated as they would in Pakistan or any other country.

Now you will say Kashmir is a disputed area .......no ....... it is whole of Jammu & Kashmir that is disputed and it has to go either to India or Pakistan ..... if you want to talk about UN resolutions ..... there is no scope for independence in UN resolutions.

Hence the comparison with Baluchistan .......

Pakilife was saying that Kashmiri's cannot be held by a signature ...... that is precisley the position of Pakistan government in Balochistan ..... they are claiming that area because the Khan of Kalat signed accesion to Pakistan .... what is the story behind that ......

[infiniti]

@mercenary2k

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Muslism converting to Hinduism?

Have you gone completely bonkers?

Please give me 1 example, just 1 example of a Muslim converting to Hinduism

Every single day there are riots in India when Hindu nationalists find out that more and more Hindus are either converting to Islam or Christianity

Hindu India will be extinct by the end of this century

Just do this, find me a video of a muslim person converting to Hinduism and renouncing Islam

Here is a video of Hindu converting to Islam

I agree with you for the first time M2K. Gesto has gone bonkers as you said. I bet you cannot find a living man or woman who converted from Islam to Hinduism (or any other religion). That says it all.

[aam_bandha]

@infiniti

I agree with you for the first time M2K. Gesto has gone bonkers as you said. I bet you cannot find a living man or woman who converted from Islam to Hinduism (or any other religion). That says it all.

From Islam to Christanity … if it helps you

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family - Times Online
While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder

**Sorry **Teggy it is getting diverted again … but this guy wanted some info … you can start another thread on this … but this is my last post about this conversion bussines on this thread

6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity - Al-Jazeerah !

I dont know Arabic … but am sure some guys here understand … hope the sub titles are what they are saying

[Magic_Stick]

Re: Terrorists kill five, take four kids hostage in Jammu

The strength/validity of a random 'god theory' from the past (religion) is not dependent on how many humans fell in it's trap.

[gesto]

[quote="mercenary2k"]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Muslism converting to Hinduism?

Have you gone completely bonkers?

Please give me 1 example, just 1 example of a Muslim converting to Hinduism

Every single day there are riots in India when Hindu nationalists find out that more and more Hindus are either converting to Islam or Christianity

Hindu India will be extinct by the end of this century

Just do this, find me a video of a muslim person converting to Hinduism and renouncing Islam

Here is a video of Hindu converting to Islam

Sorry to make you dejected.Recently the Imam of Trivandrum's(Kerala),Palayam Mosque,converted to Hinduism.Moreover,there have been numerous incidents happened in Kerala alone with such conversions.Moreover Pan India,numerous Muslims are converting to Hinduism.Pls do not feel offended to know that poeple in India and across the globe feel Islam does not advocate peace.So pls do not laught it off.You have to understand the scenario and then post Youtube links.We also can do the same of Muslims converting to Hinduism but there is no point in such debates.

Let's stick to topic and no more conversion topic.We may do it in another thread .Thank you :)