Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
Terrorism has no religion. Any human can turn terrorist. So why is the religion being associated with it? When some Basque separatist bombs something, do we say Christian terrorists? No. So your question is biased in the first place.
There is this huge debate raging in WA forum on a similar topic. I don't think this question has any easy answers. Then again, some here would dispute whether question is even legitimate.
Islamabad... it all depends on what are the reasons put forth by the people who carry out terrorist activities. If Basque terrorists were bombing Madrid because they thought their christian life-style is threatened by Budhist government of Spain, that would qualify as a religious war... right now, they just want their separate homeland, and no religion is involved. Groups like Al-Qaida etc actually use the religion card blantantly and people join them just for the sake of Islam, or so they think. We have people here on this board who claim these are all mujahids and have one single issuue to rally them up. There is no geographic border dispute, per se.
Terrorism becomes a relative concept when the terrorists are Palestinians if you are an Israeli; and so do they become freedom-fighter from the palestinian point of view. It all becomes game of words. However, blowing of regular civilians including women, children, and those who are not directly involved in the war, is an act of terrorism and a stigma to the cause of freedom.
Re: Terrorists among Muslims, reasons & solutions
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Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
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Why some Christians incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
Why some Jews incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
The above two are state sponsored too, you think the Israeli army or the US army haven't murdered scores of children in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. Don't you think this systematic state sponsored murder is much more of a problem?
Maybe it deserves some attention.
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*Originally posted by Thap: *
Why some Christians incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
Why some Jews incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
The above two are state sponsored too, you think the Israeli army or the US army haven't murdered scores of children in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. Don't you think this systematic state sponsored murder is much more of a problem?
Maybe it deserves some attention.
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Totally agree with you Thap
Its funny how all the media focus is on Muslims as if they are the cause of terrorism. The actual context of all of these problems are not even considered, this is simply because it would shift the spotlight elsewhere.
So in the trajedy of the siege in Russia, political commentators failed to mention how the Russian government has massacred thousands of chechyans, many soldiers have raped the same women simultaneously while they are dieing. It is not mentioned how the Russian governmenmt do not allow NGO's and journalists to enter the conflict areas. I suppose this will expose the way the Russians kill many innocent families and thier children.
But it's all good in the name of collateral damage. Its collateral damage when tens of thousands of non-combatants are killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's not inhumane when UN sanctions were imposed on Iraq which killed and disabled millions in Iraq.
It's ok for a people to occupy and usurp your land and make millions homeless. And then destroy your crops and build on your land, as in the case of Israel. When Muslims resist occupation they are called terrorists, but when the US, UK, France do it, it is called legitimate resistance.
I think we've witnessed enough hypocracy from the capitalist nations and it is our responsibility to point out thier inconsistencies.
Ali
still israelis will not do things like what is going on in darfur which is million times worse than what palestininans complain.
Terror is terror, I'm not into playing a game of how terrible one type of terror is compared to another.
The Russian, Israeli and the US armed forces have all killed innocent children in the past and continue to do so. This cannot be ignored in the current climate especially when retribution against chechens is likely.
A way must be found to end all types of state sponsored violence against innocents, otherwise the cycle will continue as it has.
We can all condemn such acts, but must at the same time ask for justice for the cause.
and what hindus did in gujrat is not terrorism????
and what the christians did to jews all over europe and germany in particular was not terrorism????
Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
As usual, only excuses, explanations, counter accusation, but no study and no solution.
Armughal, Europe came forward to crush the German fascism. Are you suggesting a solution to the present day situation of Islam?
You eejut that's what Russia, US and Israel have been trying to do! But are at the same time creating more trouble for themselves and the rest of the world. It aint working, hello look at the news!
Once again, this time pay attention now:
"The Russian, Israeli and the US armed forces have all killed innocent children in the past and continue to do so. This cannot be ignored in the current climate especially when retribution against chechens is likely.
A way must be found to end all types of state sponsored violence against innocents, otherwise the cycle will continue as it has.
We can all condemn such acts, but must at the same time ask for justice for the cause."
Now ajjan what are you going to do to stop state terrorism such as the variety india, israel, US and Russia enjoy?
Injustice + violence = more violence
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You eejut that's what Russia, US and Israel have been trying to do! But are at the same time creating more trouble for themselves and the rest of the world. It aint working, hello look at the news!
Once again, this time pay attention now:
"The Russian, Israeli and the US armed forces have all killed innocent children in the past and continue to do so. This cannot be ignored in the current climate especially when retribution against chechens is likely.
A way must be found to end all types of state sponsored violence against innocents, otherwise the cycle will continue as it has.
We can all condemn such acts, but must at the same time ask for justice for the cause."
Now ajjan what are you going to do to stop state terrorism such as the variety india, israel, US and Russia enjoy?
Injustice + violence = more violence
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who represents islam now the all the islamic countries or anybody in the street corner to wage jihad?
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*Originally posted by anjjan: *
Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
As usual, only excuses, explanations, counter accusation, but no study and no solution.
Armughal, Europe came forward to crush the German fascism. Are you suggesting a solution to the present day situation of Islam?
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I think they have theological justification for this. Like we a saying from our Prophet : pbuh: that we should not kill any women and children. But these particular groups think that theirs is an exception.
They won't be merciful even to fellow muslims where they can easily label them as polytheists and thus they have the justification to slaughter all of them since according to them they don't have the right to live.
I think it's the theory of wahabism. That's what I think. And that's not new. They have killed in the past and they are killing now and may continue in the future.
I think it's not hard for them to attract young people from Russia etc to their cause and to fight in their way according to their theology.
When you are oppressed you fight back. But what's the right way to do this? That's the question.
Hi!!!
Terrorism can be define under following headings:
Killing some one as offense only. Or killing some one, who has not attacked your home. That unjust killing is terrorism.
Spoiling some property feeling jealous due to the fact that your are not able to achieve that; and trying to harm some one through spoiling it, is terrorism.
Creating horror in some peaceful place, it can be a country,a city or least a home, for achieving any goal. The goal can be religious, financial or social etc is terrorism.
If there are differences between any two countries, any two religions,any two parties or any two ----Fighting wars before trying to reach a compromise, or before trying solve it peacefully by discussions, or before warning if some one attacks some one even in a just war is terrorism.
Attacking some one from behind, by deceving some one ie CHOUP KA WAR KARNA BEH BUZDIL KEY TERHAN SAY is also terrorism.
In the end i would conclude, that even to achieve any rightful right by wrong means or harming some one is terrorism.
Who so ever does these acts is a terrorist.
You can never justify your killing by saying that they are doing the same so are we.
Root cause can never be removed; as the root cause founders of todays terrorism are no more in this world.
The solution is to forget and forgive and start every thing new from the begining.
Set your islamic rules infront of you if you are a muslim.
And set your christians or jews rule infront of yourselves before you attack some one. Bye sokoon
P.S: I would totally disagree that if two countries are fighting a war due to certain differences. Both parties should use a balanced means to fight each other. My question is why one is less powerful? its fault.
Why other is more powerful? its hard work.
And the one who has made itself strong, is for this day, to win if needed. Do not forget might is right.
God has given intelligence, if some one does not use it; his fault. Not the one who is might and powerful and uses its intelligence.
Muslim History says it all,
THey have lost battles and kingdoms only because of their fightings among themsleves, because of being illitrate, because not doing / learning new thigns and thinking allah will help them as they are muslims.
Even now if someone ask a simple question why are more muslims are becoming terorist We spare no second but to put blame on western world and then trying to compare.
We have to realize no matter what there are more human rights for women and kids in western society then in any of the muslim country.
We have to realize its westerners who learned from muslims and then kept learning and developing new skills where as muslim are still proud of maths and science was invented by them but thats it.
Do we ever realize if non muslim organisations like IMF, Worldbank and all those other countries who give massive donations and money to 80% of the muslim world are also run and govern by smae anti islamic people and if they stop what theya re doing aornd 50% of the mulims will be gone from the world.
Said that:
We have to realize that most of the muslim Terrorist have very poor/ very low knowledge of the religion and are mostly brain washed by their group leaders, who unfortunatley only follow that specific translation/ part of quran that they want to and in the terms they want to. To them all non- mulims are wrong no matter what only because they dont follow guide lins of Allah.
ITs bloody time that we muslims should start taking responsibilites of our own actions and realize why we are so behind in everythign and especially technology and media.
May Allah Show Right Path to everyone.
Thap, I admire your question.
“Now ajjan what are you going to do to stop state terrorism such as the variety india, israel, US and Russia enjoy?”
If all these three-four countries, India, Russia, Israel and US agree to all terms and conditions of Muslims, are you sure that Muslims will give up violence?
These states are a phenomenon of 20th century, but the Islamic history says something else.
May what come Muslims have never recognised 'voilence' as a problem.
Oh dear Muslims?
US, Russia, India and Israel, have recognised violence is a problem but use it and increase it for the hell of it , who is worse?!!
As usual, we cannot touch the issue. We find guilty in the outer world.
However, terrorism exists against each other among different sections of Islam.
Let us explore the problem from this point of view!
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What are the solutions?
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*Originally posted by Thap: *
Why some Christians incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
Why some Jews incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
The above two are state sponsored too, you think the Israeli army or the US army haven't murdered scores of children in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. Don't you think this systematic state sponsored murder is much more of a problem?
Maybe it deserves some attention.
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Thank you.