It's obvious that things will continue to escalate. Instead of trying to come up w/unachievable solutions, the prudent thing to do would be to consider the consequences for yourselves (muslims living abroad specifically).
As the number of terrorist attacks increase in frequency and ferocity, how will your lives change?
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*Originally posted by Stu: *
It's obvious that things will continue to escalate. Instead of trying to come up w/unachievable solutions, the prudent thing to do would be to consider the consequences for yourselves (muslims living abroad specifically).
As the number of terrorist attacks increase in frequency and ferocity, how will your lives change?
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How many terrorist attacks have occurred on American soil directed towards American civilians since 911? As for the life of Muslims in America, big frickin deal. Two things will happen, some people will leave because of the increased discrimination and some will continue to tolerate anything just to stay in this great nation.
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Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons?
What are the solutions?
As usual, only excuses, explanations, counter accusation, but no study and no solution.
Armughal, Europe came forward to crush the German fascism. Are you suggesting a solution to the present day situation of Islam?
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Hi anjjan
what is your definition to terrorism?
I think if we can come to a definition, then we can decide who are the terrorists?
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.....terrorism exists against each other among different sections of Islam.
....These states [Bharat, Russia, Israel ]are a phenomenon of 20th century, but the Islamic history says something else.
…..Why some Muslims incline towards terrorism? What are the reasons? What are the solutions?
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Anjaan! This response is not addressed to you or other Bharatis. Poor Bharati souls have so much hatred and bias in their blood that no amount of reason can help.
My response is rather directed to other Paks, and European readers. This happens to be a Pakistani board, so I won't discuss Brahmin terrorism, and enslavement of lower castes. I won't even mention Tamil terrorism against Sinhalas. There won't be no discussion on terrorism between Tutsis and Hutus. Off course there will not be no talk of Irish Catholic, or Serbian Orthodox terrorism either.
I'd however challenge anjaan's premise of "Muslim" terrorism and its history. First let me refer the troubles in the world today as "anarchy" and not "terrorism". Second, we all have to be very clear that the sources of anarchy are as diverse as the countries who happen to be the members of OIC. Farid Zakaria has stated clearly that the source of many problems in the Middle East is 40 (Forty) and not 1400 years old. The more you dwell on old history, the muddier the analysis of the current situation.
There is only one reason for this anarchy. People of today, do not have a leader like Jinnah. A towering figure who believed in constitutionalism, and despised violent tactics.
Antibol, I think we are discussing the problem existing in a particular religion. We cannot touch this religion, cannot study this religion and off course cannot analyze this religion.
We can only learn this religion, that’s all.
As a result, we have all options to blame others. This is the base problem in Islam.
Re your hero Jinnah,…he threatened the Congress leaders of a ‘Direct Action’, if his demand of Pakistan was rejected.
And a sample of ‘Direct Action’ was shown at Noakhali, just some thousand Hindus were killed.
He has some valid queries, I think it’s time we faced the facts, keeping our heads in the sand wont solve any problems.
It's true that Muslim genocide has been happening for a very long time around the world and it's gone pretty much unnoticed by everyone but that does not justify what Muslim terrorists do, are they even Muslim? I don't know, maybe they think they are, maybe they are just Munafiq agents of the Kuffaar to malign Islam, **** knows.
It's true that Muslim genocide has been happening for a very long time around the world and it's gone pretty much unnoticed by everyone but......
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*Originally posted by anjjan: *
......We cannot touch this religion [Islam], cannot study this religion [Islam], and off course cannot analyze this religion [Islam],.
..........This is the base problem in Islam.
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These obviously are the statements from a truly anjaan Bharati, who hasn't learned anything beyond high school. Sure such Bharatis are good Kampooter Kaka Ballies, but that's about it. I urge these Bharatis to stick with discussing semaphores. History and religion is not their forte.
The authors of every shade and hue have discussed Islam as a religion. Read some books by Said, Zakaria, Armstrong, or Lewis.
Bharatis can touch, study, and analyze Islam. They only have to get their heads out of communalist garbage-dumps.
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*Originally posted by anjjan: *
.....Re your hero Jinnah,…he threatened the Congress leaders of a ‘Direct Action’, if his demand of Pakistan was rejected.
And a sample of ‘Direct Action’ was shown at Noakhali, just some thousand Hindus were killed.
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Again typical rants based on Bharati high school books. The same books that were used to make the movie “Ameer-ul-Momineen Gandhi”. Look out for separate thread Pak Politics.
Dear Armugal, here is a little correction to your enquiry of Jinah’ Direct Action at Noakhali,
After the first sample show of ‘Direct Action’ was over with only thousands of dead Hindus, it was the turn of Hindus gathering to attack, but Gandhi reached Noakhali and declared hunger strike against bloodshed and as a result riots stopped.