Terrorist attacks - Discussion

[yazdi]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

@diwana

The red part is very funny indeed. Where did you get this absurd idea from? Prove it.

Again, I only pointed out the pattern of these criminal acts. It clearly shows the terrorists only have one goal…create the fear among people and destroying lives and properties and they are NOT religious by any means.

Stop lecturing the forum about the patterns.. we know the patterns very well.

A scoundrel issues fatwa against Salman Taseer declaring him anti Islam and anti muslim, and an idiot like Qadri shoots him believing the fatwa. Another bunch of scoundrels issue fatwa against shias and some idiot suicide bomber kills over a hundred of them in Quetta.

Fatwa baz mullahs are the real culprits. They are bigger criminals than the emotional suicide bombers.

We are also getting tired of this fatwa bazi in our forums. People like you declaring posters as anti Islam and anti muslim because they don’t subscribe to your over religiosity and hate mentality… followed by hypocrisy of denouncing violence. Fatwa baz religious are well exposed in our society and we don’t need lectures from your type..

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Jhangvi dukhi hotay huay

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
Hum tehreek insaf ki tarf se facebook pr lagayi post “SHIA SUNNI BHAI BHAI” bharpur muzammat karte hain. JMM

Achanak ghabratay huay:

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
LAHORE: Fouji Operation Masle Ka Hall Nhi.Mojuda Hukumat K 5 Saal Ullama Or Awam K Khoon Se Rangeen Hai. Allama M.Ahmed Ludhyanvi sb JMM

reconciliation ki baat kartay huay:

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
Wazeer e Azam sb Ko Chahye K Sunni Shia Masly K Hall K Lye Foran Koi Aham Elan Kary aur Fareqain Ka Muaqaf Sunay

Malik Ishaq ki tasheer kartay huay:

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
Malik Ishaq… Naam He Kafi Hai…

lagta hay kay Jhangvi dhian nay dehan nahin diya, saaray sitins main sunni shaamil thay apnay shia bhaion kay saath:

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
Agr Hukumat Ny Shia K Dharno Ko Khatam Na Karwaya Tu Sunni Khud SHia Ko Baga Dain ge. Karkun Tayar Rahen(Malik Ishaq sb)

lagta hay koi blashphemy ho gayi hay Rajanpur main

Jhangvi ‏@JHANGVI](https://twitter.com/JHANGVI)
Rajanpur: Kal #shia](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23shia&src=hash) Ke Janib Se dye jany waly dharny me Molana Ludhianvi sb aur Malik ishaq sb k khelaf naara bazi. Hukumat Shio Ko Lagam dy

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[Surdar_Asif]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

While fighting the terrorists in FATA is a different ball game. But these petty criminal-terrorists of LeJ running around the country, bombing and killing for sport?? No, that's not acceptable. They should have already been liquidated including their chief Malik Ishaq (la) and not made deals in Punjab. Good on the people of Pakistan for making a stand. If government does not change its habits then next time we should do it with more force.

[rangoli]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

looking at those peaceful, non violent protests across Pakistan, I cant help but salute those people who came out for this struggle for peace and continued in a peaceful manner, truly commendable!:k:

[Med911]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

While fighting the terrorists in FATA is a different ball game. But these petty criminal-terrorists of LeJ running around the country, bombing and killing for sport?? No, that's not acceptable. They should have already been liquidated including their chief Malik Ishaq (la) and not made deals in Punjab. Good on the people of Pakistan for making a stand. If government does not change its habits then next time we should do it with more force.

The govt seems to be avoiding any conflicts towards the build up of the elections. The Army may still not have come around to viewing them as a genuine threat.

[Surdar_Asif]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

The govt seems to be avoiding any conflicts towards the build up of the elections. The Army may still not have come around to viewing them as a genuine threat.

These terror outfits have been at it for good many years. Is the army going to wait for every terrorist outfit to grow strong enough to bite them on their own a** before the act against them? Is it not the job of army to protect country's citizens who pay for it?

[EyEsOnSkY]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Inshallah this is end of SSP and LEJ.... May ALLAH destroy these enemies of Islam along with TTP and other terrorist Organizations.

Salam ho in shuhada per ... aur in k lawahiqeen per.

Inshallah and ameen

[shardmanny]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

i do support the attempts to stop the massacre of the hazara people, so little is known about the specific situation, i am unable to say anything. other then its a terrible situation, and that we should be better then afghanistan where they are persecuted

the answer may in the end be as easy as educating the hazara, themselves, as to what is considered acceptable conduct in their situation. for example if they are being targetted by baloch nationalists then perhaps an advice to stop pro iranian activities may be the solution

or if the situation is between them and specifically religious groups then advice pertaining to Islam may be required

or it may be a combination of both

if someone is targetting them for no reason whatsoever then we a problem, which requires a military solution. however even this avenue should not be allowed to be hijacked by shia elements who suffer from above two stated conditions. unfortunately the number in this condition is high, very high, atleast on the internet. there is feeling of 'deliverance of success' to this collective pressure group which is something i am just not going to be part of

**it is a time for the Muslims (Sunni) to come togather and workout a solution which is acceptable to Muslims. It is important for the solution to come from Sunnis, rather then shias or alcoholic aunties or americans because that will give the solution a sound strong base to succeed from

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[Ali_Syed]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Six security personnel killed in Khyber tribal region | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

[queer]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

the answer may in the end be as easy as educating the hazara, themselves, as to what is considered acceptable conduct in their situation.

or if the situation is between them and specifically religious groups then advice pertaining to Islam may be required

amazing. this is what happens when you lose your moral compass by obsessing over religion.

[chacha_Ghalib]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

@shardmanny

i do support the attempts to stop the massacre of the hazara people, so little is known about the specific situation, i am unable to say anything. other then its a terrible situation, and that we should be better then afghanistan where they are persecuted

the answer may in the end be as easy as educating the hazara, themselves, as to what is considered acceptable conduct in their situation. for example if they are being targetted by baloch nationalists then perhaps an advice to stop pro iranian activities may be the solution

or if the situation is between them and specifically religious groups then advice pertaining to Islam may be required

or it may be a combination of both

if someone is targetting them for no reason whatsoever then we a problem, which requires a military solution. however even this avenue should not be allowed to be hijacked by shia elements who suffer from above two stated conditions. unfortunately the number in this condition is high, very high, atleast on the internet. there is feeling of ‘deliverance of success’ to this collective pressure group which is something i am just not going to be part of

**it is a time for the Muslims (Sunni) to come togather and workout a solution which is acceptable to Muslims. It is important for the solution to come from Sunnis, rather then shias or alcoholic aunties or americans because that will give the solution a sound strong base to succeed from

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Yeah just tell em to disappear. Becuase, we all know that muslims (sunni of course) can do no wrong and if people are getting killed at their righteous hands, it must be their own fault.

I wonder why this guy doesn’t get banned? He is always flaming and spewing hatred against one group or the other.

[yazdi]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

i do support the attempts to stop the massacre of the hazara people, so little is known about the specific situation, i am unable to say anything. other then its a terrible situation, and that we should be better then afghanistan where they are persecuted

the answer may in the end be as easy as educating the hazara, themselves, as to what is considered acceptable conduct in their situation. for example if they are being targetted by baloch nationalists then perhaps an advice to stop pro iranian activities may be the solution

or if the situation is between them and specifically religious groups then advice pertaining to Islam may be required

or it may be a combination of both

if someone is targetting them for no reason whatsoever then we a problem, which requires a military solution. however even this avenue should not be allowed to be hijacked by shia elements who suffer from above two stated conditions. unfortunately the number in this condition is high, very high, atleast on the internet. there is feeling of 'deliverance of success' to this collective pressure group which is something i am just not going to be part of

**it is a time for the Muslims (Sunni) to come togather and workout a solution which is acceptable to Muslims. It is important for the solution to come from Sunnis, rather then shias or alcoholic aunties or americans because that will give the solution a sound strong base to succeed from

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I am intrigued by the bold parts.. I think you forgot to put sunnis again in the bracket when you mentioned Muslims. Shias according to you should not have any say in the solution. I think you should shun hypocrisy and mention the exact group amongst the sunnis also who have the exclusive right to dictate the solution. Rest according to you don't matter..

Hazara shias if they are getting killed is entirely their own fault for not following the guide lines and advice put forth by true muslims according to your liking or Baluch nationals. True muslims and Baluch nationals who ever are the killers are fully justified to kill these Hazara shias for not following the line.

With the same logic.. tomorrow if some other minorities are massacred by true muslims or nationalist.. it will be entirely their own fault.

I am impressed by this genius post..!!!

[yazdi]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

amazing. this is what happens when you lose your moral compass by obsessing over religion.

Not only moral compass but mental health as well..!!!

[Pathan_Bhai]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

I wonder why this guy doesn't get banned? He is always flaming and spewing hatred against one group or the other.

Reading him every now and then actually serves as a good reminder of how morally empty these people are not to mention the sizable degree of hypocrisy and confusion their comments reflect.

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Bara tribesmen sit outside Governor House with 18 bodies – The Express Tribune

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Tribals allege that military has killed their loved ones, a dharna is in progress outside the Governor House Peshawar.

[shardmanny]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

amazing. this is what happens when you lose your moral compass by obsessing over religion.

well its beyond me to explain to you the nitty gritty of the situation

the hazara have suffered, or been involved in, massacres and persecution in two countries. they suffered the a****r massacre where the details are quiet gruesome, and whole host of persecution. they have suffered at the hands of governments, warlords, friends and foes including Iran, so its claimed in one article on one site which claims to represent them. i do not believe all the claims tbh

once you have come to terms with the type and scale of persecution taking place, and most importantly without knowing the specific reason behined this latest pakistan outbreak,then we are blind about the possible reasons and thus solutions

by reading one of the hazara's own accounts, the first article they presented was accusing pakistan state of actually carrying out attacks on them. so from this it implies they even as a vulnerable community are involved in something which pakistan strategically needs to bomb or eliminate them.

lets say for a minute thats true, and its confirmed as the reason for the attacks. what would you say to a vulnerable community, who is on the face of it, is just asking for safety? would you say fight this nuclear power or would you say lower your ambition? for the situation they are in its better for them, the hazara, to climb down within this given scenario. this accomplishes their stated goal, which is peace

[shardmanny]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

I am intrigued by the bold parts.. I think you forgot to put sunnis again in the bracket when you mentioned Muslims. Shias according to you should not have any say in the solution. I think you should shun hypocrisy and mention the exact group amongst the sunnis also who have the exclusive right to dictate the solution. Rest according to you don't matter..

Hazara shias if they are getting killed is entirely their own fault for not following the guide lines and advice put forth by true muslims according to your liking or Baluch nationals. True muslims and Baluch nationals who ever are the killers are fully justified to kill these Hazara shias for not following the line.

With the same logic.. tomorrow if some other minorities are massacred by true muslims or nationalist.. it will be entirely their own fault.

I am impressed by this genius post..!!!

these are your words not mine. i included a possible military solution, which for me represents a commitment to protect minority communities. i included a proposal which would be respected by all concerned

i just think the Hazara are too vulnerable to be playing games with warlords, religious groups, or nation states

the longterm solution say if it was a baloch nationalist group would have to include calming of the tension between them and the hazaras. even you should agree that the sting must be taken out of the localised situation. otherwise it will be a fragile peace

what i am proposing is concrete, which removes them from the firing line and includes a longterm protection plan

[khoji]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Shardmanny is probably getting his suggestions straight from khawarij Sipahe Sahaba and Lashkare Jhangvi khawarij.

The problem is not between shias and sunnis. While shias have bore the brunt of khariji fasaad, **sunnis have also been their victims. **
This is why every Pakistani, which includes all shias and sunnis, has supported action against khariji gangs killing Muslims.

Here is an example of wahhabi kharijis killings all kind of Muslims.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
**Four alleged Lashkar-e-Jhangvi men arrested

**He further said that the accused also confessed to killing at least four persons - Barkat Ali, **a Shia man **in Sharah-e-Noor Jahan; Mumtaz Qadri, Pesh Imam belonging to **Barelvi school of thought **in Godhra Camp, New Karachi and two **Sunni Tehreek workers **Izzat Gul and Adnan Sheikh in New Karachi Industrial Area.

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Throughout history, khawarij have shown to know only one language, and that is the language of force.
This is why the best solution possible for SSP/LJ/Taliban** is to kill their leadership and their members**. Anyone planning to kill common innocent people, regardless of what faith or ethnicity they belong to, deserves this end.

This is especially necessary since at present the current CJ is a khariji supporter himself, and government is more concerned trying to stay in power.

[khoji]

Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013

Anyone who thinks that khawarij like Taliban/SSP/LJ could somehow be persuaded to shun their violent activities is either naive or a fool. Because violence against anyone who doesn't agree with their anti-Islam khariji cult, is the BASIS of their existence.