every human being – male and female, has the same body parts, with the distinction of reproductive anatomy. even if they did not, why do some people feel the urge to be immoral?
we have will power to abstain from giving into lust and our religion strengthens our sense of right and wrong… then why?
all women are equipped to feed the off spring of this species, called humankind, and all men are equipped to procreate. then what is the excitement, surprise and curiosity and inquisition about it??
this is amazing that shame, self-respect and sanctity or dignity of human body male or female is so disregarded, and worst this is , in a Muslim society. there are ethics for every thing in our religion, including intimacy.
if i could ask men and women who practice immorality, my question would not be about their religiosity or self consciousness, but it would be one of reasoning and i’d ask “does it really feel that good, being that cheap - either stripping someone else, or being stripped”?
may good people not become so base that we lose sight of our responsibility as shameful and dignified grown women and men.
may anyone’s media, never become successful in making us feel cheap. &
may we think, reason and stay put in our convictions to have self-respect and allow that to others.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Funny, in the West, people get their 'pannies all in a twist over the guys going to the bars where the gals disrobe. Disrespect and all that. But you know what? Its actually the GUYS being abused here, the gals get all the cash, the guys dont get to touch they only get frustrated beyond releif. So WHO exactly has the upper hand here....I mean the gals working in these clubs work 4 or 4 hours on Fri nite, 4 or 5 hrs on Sat nite and it gets their college tuition, books, living expenses and (very nice sundry extras) paid for in full. Do I approve? No. Would I do it myself? No. But hey, lets call a spade a spade here and realize who has the upper hand....
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
if i could ask men and women who practice immorality, my question would not be about their religiosity or self consciousness, but it would be one of reasoning and i’d ask
Just for argument's sake, and since your "question would not be about their religiosity", wouldn't they say that if everyone has similar body parts anyway, so why go overboard hiding it all the time?
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Why, just because i don’t smoke what u all smoke??
STOP living in denial.
Some of u ought to address your hypocrisy first.
There are plenty of your topics which just don’t make sense and are actually obnoxious & tasteless.
But, I either do not post there my response, or just say what I have to say as an opinion, based in factual information and moral account, and move on.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
NO, IT IS "SOCIAL ILLS" AND "ISSUES" OF MEN AND WOMEN, BOTH WHO SUBSCRIBE TO IMMODESTY.
ON GS, WE HAVE SADLY, DEVELOPED A CULTURE IN WHICH CONSULTATION OF THE RIGHT KIND... MUTUAL CONSENSES ON THE RIGHT PATH IS OBJECTIONABLE, YET FOLLOWING BEHAVIORS OF ALL MANNER, THAT DIRECTLY FOLLOW IRRATIONALITY AND IMORALITY ARE PRIZED.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Interesting. Based on your own first post, all the body parts look remarkable similar anyway, so please explain the "shame" part.
Either now you will need to run behind the cloak of religiosity to justify your position, or you have to do a better job in explaining why, in this hypothetical scenario, your response is more logical.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Can you guys lay off the personal attacks? If you have a problem with Dushwari or her threads, don't post in them. There are many other threads going on here that can do with your attention if you don't like her topics.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Nahee Faisal. u are erring on the side of being pre-judgmental.
shame is just a natural instinct. even birds need privacy when they are copulating, argument here is not the pleasure ability of something that humans can do or have to do... it is the rules of conduct within whose parameters, something like disrobing of some partner is to take place consensually, and still within merits of sensitive and respectful interaction.
once, u break away from the legality of these rules, and go beyond into basal instincts and cheapness, u not only lose ur shame, but also ur character and i don’t think that any one self respecting would like to gain some small pleasure at the expense of having lost one's shame.
what I am hoping to convey, while keep the talk clear of na-zaiba back and forth arguments, is that we men and women have out bodies’ and their rights over us & we should treat ours and others’ bodies like such. Hope it helps.
Re: tell, what is the fun in watching undressed people?
Your post is very hard to read, because of all the extraneous codes.
In any case, I can argue this point from both sides, as I am sure many of you can too. I just wanted to see how you present your argument, while keeping religious injunctions out. You keep mentioning the concept of "shame". May be because your post is not readable, it is not clear what your argument is. You mention "rules of conduct" and "legality of these rules". On the most basic level, what kind of rules are these?
If you look at some societies that are not exposed to religion and have most elementary of rules (like sub-Saharan African tribes or natives of Amazonian jungles), these people, men and women, go around practically naked. Not because they feel a perverse sense of joy showing off their genitals, but because for them showing their breasts is as normal as for you to show your wrists and hands. Everyone has it, so why bother hiding it. Are you saying these people have no character? Tell us, what concept of "shame" and "rules" are you talking about when you think of mankind at the most basic level?