Tell us about Terms of WOT

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Kasoori was part of the team which negotiated or have ample knowledge of the terms agreed between the then govt of Pakistan and USA on WOT.

Now that he has re-born and has decided to re-visit his past mistakes, why don’t he tell us that what were the terms Mushy agreed with US, on what terms Shamsi, Shahbaz and other airbases were given to US? what were bases of the terms on Pasni Port? What was the terms for NATO Supply? and whole lot?? isn’t this the right time? tell us the nation what happened?

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ittay bholay hain aap?

Terms were not 'negotiated' but 'dictated'. Badlay main thori bakhsheesh. Thanks.

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Tu woh dictated terms hi bata daiN, batayaiN tu sahi kay uss waqt kay army chief nay asal maiN kiya kya tha?

Bholpn tu mujh per khatam hay :)

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Army Chief ney jo kiya tau woh bata tau dain magar ghair-parlimani alfaaz istemaal kernay parain gey :P

The Americans wouldn't tell Pakistani government how much 'assistance' they give to Pakistani Military even before 9/11.

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Terms:

  1. You are either with us or with them!
  2. If anything isn't clear see clause 1!
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Isn't it sheer bias against PTI that no sooner did Kasuri join PTI than you decided to interogate him on WOT? Why you remained so blissfully heedless that you never thought to raise the question of WOT to this day? What exactly made you suddenly so conscious and concerned about your foreign policy of yesteryears that you decided to question Kasuri?

And to be more specific, why don't you simply ask the guy who was the king? Why the pawns? :@:

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What Bias?
Kasoori was the guy who was Foreign MInister in days of previous govt, he should have some knowledge of the way issues were handled,the way policies were made... don't you know, Imran Khan was fought against the very policies, such as drones and WOT and all those things??? now that one of them has joined your ranks, how come it can be called bias when we ask ok, now that you have repented over your past sins, tell us about it? tell us all we want to know, because more or less, the problems we are facing today are because of the policies Pakistan had from 2002 onwards.. so tell us??? why it is called bias???

Or are you turning into a PPP or PML or MQM worker, that whenever they are confronted by a question they say it is because of bias, and when Judiciary issues verdicts against their interest they say Judiciary is biased.. you seem to be turning into one, wait for few more joinings and the transformation will be completed.

One thing more, if Kasoori is not going to come clean on that, then one thing would be clear... that, IK is going to go with the same policies what Pakistan had adopted back then... and why is that, i'll talk on that, once i know if Kasoori is going to talk or not?

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kasooooooooooooriiii... kasssooorrrriiiiiiiiiii... kasori jani kahan ho? ..... aao... jawab do, hisaaab do!!!!

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JinhooN nay hisaab layna tha, unhooN nay tu Kasoori ko hug ker kay uss kay saray kasoor maaf ker diya haiN...

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You still have to reply to my questions:

What suddenly decided you to interogate Kasuri NOW?

and...

Why don't you ask the king? Why the pawns?

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I think it is easy to answer,

Pawn have joined a party vows to bring change in Pakistan??? now isn't it is job of the Pawn to tell us all about it? or pawn is dumb as well? isn't it the lawful duty of the party he have joined ( the party who stood against the policies of the very pawn defended till last week) to tell us that now he have repented of all the sins he have committed when we was PAWN? and these are the sins and we assure our people that those sins are not going to be repeated??

I know, it is going to be harder for PTIans to answer all these, because apparently their party have joined the same league once they opposed, otherwise what i ask is not out of the world... it is what everyone in the country is asking... so the PAWN who was front runner back then can easily say everything about the KING who have announced his return on 12th of January 2012...

Now i wonder what are your reasons for aayain baayaian shayain?

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You would have not raised this question if you had slightest knowledge as to who was at the helm of affairs since 12 October 1999 to 18 February 2008. For your information, it was the king called Musharraf. And if pawns are to be questioned, than I believe Kasuri wasn’t the only pawn playing under the king. And if he wasn’t alone, than why he alone should be questioned? Just because he has joined PTI? :bummer:

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OH bhai

Thoray hoslay say dobara post paRHo..

I have not said that Kasoor is RESPONSIBLE i said he should be knowing it…

Didn’t knew, you are so hell bound to protect/defend him that you won’t be reading the content before replying them or you just want to do aayaiN bayaiN shayaiN because he have joined your party and it is your duty to defend him no matter what… even MQMers don’t do that

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You know there is a thing called chess its good to kill time.
There is another thing called patience.

Have some patience, if you can't, then play chess to kill time.

Talking about things in process is not really a smart way to kill time.

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Than question those who made the policy, why those who followed it? And you are again ignoring my question why so suddenly you thought that Kasuri should be questioned now?

I haven't joined PTI formally and probably won't be voting for it as oversees Pakistanis aren't allowed to vote. But I would campaign for and against anyone who I believe could do something for my country. If tomorrow PTI or Imran turn out to be a disastor for Pakistan — just as PPP did — you will find me as hell-bent against them as I am now in their favour. Anyone detrimental to my country is my VERY PERSONAL enemy, be it Imran himself. But for now, my problem is that I cannot hang him untill and unless he proves guilty. Can you do that?

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Oh bhai, i am not questioning anything, i am asking things Kasoori should tell us.. that will telll us that either Kasoori is regretting his past deeds or he has been taken in because his past experience is required for something we don't know?

and i know it seems real hard for you to comprehend what i have said

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SMQ didn't miss a chance to HIT on Zardari saying NUKES are not safe, and now this guy who was FM back then, didn't said a single thing about the helm of issues which caused destruction of Pakistan, because of which around 40,000 Pakistanies have died so far and the most of all, the policy against which IK stood... not a single word of regret or anything, no information about it, just hugged him and all his sins washed away...

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I can only tell how I see things.
When country was run by devil even good people only did minimum to keep their sfeed-poshi.
After anti-devil side had fist victory(CJ restoration) , all good ppl started gaining confidence.
That include common people like my self.

There are like 3 people who did ideal things during bad time on all levels, like mahmood achak-zai hmmm

First time there is a good side in Pakistan, We have seen shyt... I think we should have faith and let this process complete.
See what it brings us .

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I dont think Kasuri or anyone in the government other than Musharraf knew what was settled in the aftermath of 911. The Americans were furious, Musharraf decided on his own *maybe after consulting with the corp commanders). Kasuri might know a few things(being foreign minister) but I dont think any one would want to make that public (as that starts coming into sensitive information being disclosed and harming the national interest). Its similar to how some on this forum were propagating that SMQ had negotiated the security of the country when he said that the nukes are unsafe in the hands of the present regime.

At the moment there is a so called democratic government which says that the army is not in their control, on the other hand you are talking about a dictatorship which had created a false democratic setup to quiten the outside world. Do you think anyone in that government had power for anything?

Pakistan's democracy is a musical chair, enjoy it! Hopefully after a few more repeated elections (without any future coups) the situation will eventually start improving.

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Didn't the "Good" should People tell us what Devil did to us?

If playing chess is good kill of time, and patience is as good as you say it is in this case, then we shouldn't be questioning any political or military leadership, we should trust them and we should always give them benefit of doubt and in meantime should play ludo, cards or chess!!!