Tehrek-E-Istaqlal joins ranks with PTI

[achterbahn]

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@hanibal

Excuse me, but Isghar Khan resigned from which party? how many members are there in his party he resigned from and how many elections and seats the party had contested and won? as you said, he resigned as a chairman of terhrek-e-Istaqlaal… and is that party a democratic party? if there is any other member in that party are they OK with the merger of these parties? or have they voted for the chairmanship of Imran Khan in that party???

yes don’t like any of the politician who is gets money or any kind of support from Establishment and i want heads of those in ISI or ESTABLISHMENT who actually force, lure politicians to dance to their tunes…

^^ Don’t worry about Asghar Khan (I hope mis-spelling his name by you is not intentional) or his party, if they have had no supporters they will lose. Simple as that,

If establishment lures, only characterless men or politicians will dance to their tunes and take money from it. So if any politician has taken money from ISI, he/she should be banned forever.

I say SC must proceed with the case which is lingering since late 80s early 90s…

[hanibal]

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@achterbahn

^^ Don’t worry about Asghar Khan (I hope mis-spelling his name by you is not intentional) or his party, if they have had no supporters they will lose. Simple as that,

If establishment lures, only characterless men or politicians will dance to their tunes and take money from it. So if any politician has taken money from ISI, he/she should be banned forever.

I say SC must proceed with the case which is lingering since late 80s early 90s…

So what punishment to the master mind? who lured, forced politicians in this dirty games, who actually financed all the mess we are in today??? why only politicians, why not generals, judges and bureaucrats… why not these??? politicians should be the last one to be sentenced in this hierarchy of power in Pakistan…

[hanibal]

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See this one of the MIGHTY Conqueror of Pakistan, how is he running from the a boy… these are the Generals who should be hanged… General (R) Orakzai

General Ali Muhammad Jan Orakzai, key player of 1999 army quo against Nawaz Sharif Govt

[hanibal]

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One thing i dont understand, Shah Mehmood Qureshi was not that senior in PPP, but he was given the designation of Vice Chairman in PTI, but Asghar Khan as most of PTIans beleived, is one of the most respected, ASOOL PARAST and senior politician and he was chairman of some Tehreek-e-Istaqlaal kind of party… then why no high designation for Some respected, Asool Parast and Senior Politician, where likes of SMQ, who can jump out of the ship anytime are Vice Chairman… it is something very confusing…

[muqawwee123]

Re: Tehrek-E-Istaqlal joins ranks with PTI

^ simple. Job market for an employee having experience of multinational organization is better than that of an employee of a local company.

[achterbahn]

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@hanibal

One thing i dont understand, Shah Mehmood Qureshi was not that senior in PPP, but he was given the designation of Vice Chairman in PTI, **but Asghar Khan as most of PTIans beleived, is one of the most respected, ASOOL PARAST and senior politician and he was chairman of some Tehreek-e-Istaqlaal kind of party… **then why no high designation for Some respected, Asool Parast and Senior Politician, where likes of SMQ, who can jump out of the ship anytime are Vice Chairman… it is something very confusing…

Just shows that people do not always join PTI just to get some party position.

But of course PML-N supporters can never understand that, LOL.

[hanibal]

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@achterbahn

Just shows that people do not always join **PTI just to get some party position.
**
But of course PML-N supporters can never understand that, LOL.

So you are saying, SMQ joined PTI for Party position??

[hanibal]

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@muqawwee123

^ simple. Job market for an employee having experience of multinational organization is better than that of an employee of a local company.

means lotay are more expensive then loyal workers!

[achterbahn]

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@hanibal

So you are saying, SMQ joined PTI for Party position??

Could be… next time I meet him, I’ll ask him to clearify,

[hanibal]

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@achterbahn

Could be… next time I meet him, I’ll ask him to clearify,

So you don’t know why SMQ joined PTI and you say not all joins for party position…

Good to know that you don’t know…

[Sohaib]

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@hanibal

^^ Better ask PML-N and not me… i am not PML-N

about the petition, if he is so sincere about his petition and if IK is supporting this petition then why not likes of Hamid Khan and Justice (R) wajihuddin moves it.. they are/were lawyers, they know how to move these things… so what is the hurdle…

Anyway, is Isghar Khan going to be a VICE-CHAIRMAN and have right to appoint 25% candidates or will head some kind of Parliamentary board kind of thing???** or he will be forgotten like Justice Wajihuddin?**

you are as pro PML-N as one can be here on this forums. Because I have seldom seen any posts from you in which you have criticized anything PMLN did. I may be wrong in assessing that but this is the impression what I get. Specially when it comes to criticising PTI for the sake of it and blatantly ignoring the face that the likes of Wajih ud din are not forgotten. He is heading the unique electoral committee which will filter all nominated candidates for their suitability. So kind of an important position, no?

[kakaballi]

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@hanibal

One thing i dont understand, Shah Mehmood Qureshi was not that senior in PPP, but he was given the designation of Vice Chairman in PTI, but Asghar Khan as most of PTIans beleived, is one of the most respected, ASOOL PARAST and senior politician and he was chairman of some Tehreek-e-Istaqlaal kind of party… then why no high designation for Some respected, Asool Parast and Senior Politician, where likes of SMQ, who can jump out of the ship anytime are Vice Chairman… it is something very confusing…

LOL… you are truly obsessed with PTI… baal ki khaal utartay hain aap!!!

Apparently, you had no issues with Two ex-generals picked for key PML-N positions.

[hanibal]

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@kakaballi

LOL… you are truly obsessed with PTI… baal ki khaal utartay hain aap!!!

Apparently, you had no issues with Two ex-generals picked for key PML-N positions.

1. Promotion ho gayee hay aur Aaj kal koy khas kaam nahi hay

2. PML-N never said they are going to bring Tsunami of CHANGE and INQILAAB or something like that…

[kakaballi]

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@hanibal

1. Promotion ho gayee hay aur Aaj kal koy khas kaam nahi hay

2. PML-N never said they are going to bring Tsunami of CHANGE and INQILAAB or something like that…

They never talked about change but they talked alot about interference from generals into politics. The news I posted was with reference of the video you posted before about a general in Mush time. One of the two generals Nawaz picked as officer bearer was governor Baluchistan during Mush time, directly promoted from core commander position to governor

Your criticism here is mostly justified, no doubt, but it is directed in towards one party only, which borders obsession.

P.S. congratulations on promotion!!!

[hanibal]

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@kakaballi

They never talked about change but they talked alot about interference from generals into politics. The news I posted was with reference of the video you posted before about a general in Mush time. One of the two generals Nawaz picked as officer bearer was governor Baluchistan during Mush time, directly promoted from core commander position to governor

Your criticism here is mostly justified, no doubt, but it is directed in towards one party only, which borders obsession.

P.S. congratulations on promotion!!!

The video i posted is of the General who was directly involved in out-setting an elected govt through unconstitutional means… whereas this Baloch guy was not involved in that coup by himself, so there is no comparison of the two, not that i consider him as a saint but the video i posted about Orkazai is something totally different you are saying…

PS: Thankyou

[achterbahn]

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@hanibal

1. Promotion ho gayee hay …

Kiu Janab, Rana Sana-Ullah ki Chutti karwa di hay PML-N kya?

j/k.

Promotion mubarak ho.

[snowy_winter]

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@GoldenAsif

The tide has turned.

I have recently visited Pakistan and the general consensus atleast among educated people is that we have tried the two big parties twice or thrice and they have been thoroughly disappointing, so it’s only fair that IK be given a chance to govern. He may be inexperienced etc. but he could not be any worse than the current lot. People are just fed up with the status quo

My prediction is that you will see more and more influential people from various parties joining ranks of PTI nearer to the time of the election. Even Ghulam Mustafa Khar has shown an interest. I sincerely hope that PTI does not take corrupt people like him

I see PTI emerging as the second or third largest party in the National Assembly in the next election.

Absolutely correct analysis! however, a lot of people in Pakistan, especially rural areas usually give their vote to whoever brings a bus, offers them lunch/dinner and or a couple of bucks and that’s it! no offence to anyone, but this is what I have observed personally.

Nevertheless, the tide has actually turned and even people from rural areas are becoming more aware. The people are so fed up of the two status-quo parties that even if someone shows them Imran pick-pocketing someone, they will still vote for him. Same here for me !!

[achterbahn]

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I hope PML-N will spare at least these brothers now …

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/12/dozens-of-sikhs-join-pti/

Dozens of Sikhs join PTI

PESHAWAR - Dozens of ANP workers belonging to the minority Sikh community have joined PTI.
Sikh leader and former member district council Peshawar Sahib Singh made the announcement alongwith dozens of his companions in a press conference at Peshawar Press Club on Tuesday.
At the occasion political advisor for Imran Khan, Shaukat Ali Yousafzai, provincial leaders Iftikhar Khan Jhagra, Mian Mukaram Shah, Iqbal Afridi and President District Peshawar Syed Ishtiaq Ali Shah were also present.
While addressing the press conference Sahib Singh formally announced his joining in PTI with other members of the Sikh community belonging to Peshawar and Khyber agency. He said that he was a worker of ANP for long but ANP leadership in several issues ignored his community.
He added that the Sikh community expects security of the rights of minorities from PTI.
Political advisor for Imran Khan, Shaukat Ali Yousafzai at this occasion welcomed the new comers.
Answering to a question Shaukat Ali Yousafzai said that the District Cabinet of PTI Nowshera has no objection on the joining of Pervez Khattak.

[hanibal]

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@Seb

you are as pro PML-N as one can be here on this forums. Because I have seldom seen any posts from you in which you have criticized anything PMLN did. I may be wrong in assessing that but this is the impression what I get. Specially when it comes to criticising PTI for the sake of it and blatantly ignoring the face that the likes of Wajih ud din are not forgotten. He is heading the unique electoral committee which will filter all nominated candidates for their suitability. So kind of an important position, no?

Well are you talking about this position? or is this the one which is earlier announced for Hamid Khan and now it belongs to SMQ…

Qureshi to head PTI scrutiny committee By: Syed Danish Hussain | Published: December 20, 2011
ISLAMABAD - It seems Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Imran Khan has deliberately blocked the way of veteran leaders of PTI, who are already perturbed over inclusion of establishment backed opportunist politicians, in decision making over the issue of new entrants to party.

On Monday, the issuance of a notification from party’s Central Secretariat to PTI leaders informing them the decision of appointment of a newcomer to party, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, as Chairman of a Scrutiny Committee mandated to evaluate properly the integrity and history of the new entrants to party has raised many eyebrows.
The 10-member Scrutiny Committee with PTI Vice Chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi as its Chairman is mandated a task to ensure stoppage of influx of controversial and corrupt politicians to PTI.
The scrutiny committee was formed on Monday.
The decision of formation of this Scrutiny Committee to check new entrants was taken during the Central Executive Committee of the party.
However, during the course of meeting Imran Khan had assured the members of CEC that some time tested and senior party leader with high integrity would be appointed as its Chairman.
Earlier, during the CEC meeting the name of senior PTI leader Hamid Khan was finalised as Chairman of the Scrutiny Committee. But he was made not even member of the committee.
The members of the Scrutiny Committee included PTI Secretary General Dr Arif Alvi, Air Vice Marshal (Retd) Shahid Zulfiqar, Pervaiz Khattak, Nazar Baloch, Zohair Asheer, Iftikhar Soomro, Malik Sohail, Mian Sajid and Shah Farman.
A senior PTI leader wishing not to be named informed that senior party leaders have shown reservations over the issue who had joined the party over its manifesto and ideology years ago.
He said there was a strong feeling among those ideological leaders that new entrants had completely hijacked the party and following their suggestions Imran Khan was making decisions without caring for the consequences.
He said senior leaders were already disturbed over appointing Shah Mehmood to the post of Vice Chairman of the party and this decision had further added fuel to the fire.
However, he stated that issue would be taken up in the upcoming CEC meeting of the party.
As per working procedures of the committee, from now onwards all proposals regarding joining of individuals coming directly to the Chairman PTI would go to the scrutiny committee.
Also the proposals which the provincial Presidents, regional organisers would approve for joining in the presence of the Chairman should also be approved by the Scrutiny Committee.
The committee has also been asked to particularly weigh proposals where former Senators or Parliamentarians or prominent members of other parties wish to join.
The Scrutiny Committee has also been asked to get all the available information of the ‘would be entrants’ and make a decision in this regard within a maximum of two days from the date of submission.
In case of a positive nod from the Scrutiny Committee, the matter would be referred to regional organisers who would further scrutinise the hopefuls.
In case of emergence of any difference of opinion between CEC and regional organisers, the issue would be sent to PTI Chairman for final decision on the issue.

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Regional/Islamabad/20-Dec-2011/Qureshi-to-head-PTI-scrutiny-committee

[Captain1]

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@hanibal

2. PML-N never said they are going to bring Tsunami of CHANGE and INQILAAB or something like that…

Of course they never said, because they want to keep the things as they are