So you are comparing IRI with Gupshup PA ![]()
^^ I would like to see that cartoon trial for his atrocity crimes against people, but unfortunately Imran Kha was also having wet dreams about him. So it didn't work out !
Well one can't really fault Imran here. He did what he promised the nation i.e. filed a case against Altaf Bhai. Whether despite having convincing evidence against Altaf, Scotland Yard feel unable to act against him because of pressure from the British Government (due to pressure from PAK government) we don't know and would never know. Let's face it the controversial Altaf Bhai does enjoy a cult like status among a certain section of our society so trying him let alone convicting him could in theory lead to serious riots, killings and destruction in parts of Pakistan i.e. instability in the country. So it's not because Altaf Bhai is clean but because he has such controversial almost manic following amongst masses that SY perhaps felt it best not to proceed with his case any further. Atleast Imran had the guts to stand up for what he believed was morally right
Comparing ZAB to Imran is like comparing Lion to a Donkey.
Bhutto was & did in his first 40 years age: 1) Youngest member of Pakistan's delegation to the United Nation 2) Youngest Pakistani cabinet minister (Energy Ministry) 3) Negotiate the Indus Water Treaty 4) Transformed Pakistan's hitherto pro-Western foreign policy when he was Foreign Minister 5) Establish relations with China. 6) Signed the Sino-Pakistan Boundary Agreement on March 2,1963 7) Promoted Pan-Islamic unity
Now what Imran did in his 52 years of age? scandals, cricket & failed politics? Bhai Jaan, Leaders are born not made.
Well ZAB was highly educated and smart, noone can deny that fact but it has to be said that despite his immense talent he did precious little for the country apart from commencing Pakistan's nuclear programme. He could have done so much for the country. He showed jhootay sapnay of roti kapra aur makan to the poor and spoiled the lower classes by telling them that they had always been wronged by Pakistan's upper and middle classes. Ask anyone in Pakistan.....servants aur peons k dimagh bhutto jaani k aanay k baad se hee kharaab hone shurou huey. And forget the rest of Pakistan what have the Bhutto family despite their enormous wealth really done for their own constituency in Sind. Garhi Khuda Bakhsh and Larkana are still dumps. Heck there are not even proper roads there.....which is one of the main reasons why so many foreign dignitaries did not attend BB's funeral
Atleast Shahbaz Sharif has done a great deal for Lahore and I believe he is expanding his good work throughout Punjab. Ask any Lahori. Like him or not he IS a good administrator....but that's not to say he is clean or not corrupt.
As for some of the other things you mention in relation to ZAB, when you hold such an important public office or are a cabinet minister I believe people expect you to do something significant and to not sit your a*se down on the sofa all day long. Imran has not been in that position so we can't really judge him or know what he could deliver if such a huge responsibility was thrust upon him. It is a futile comparison
Remember NS was a minister in Zia's cabinet when he was barely 30 (so does that mean that he's a genius). Even Imran Khan was offered a cabinet post by Zia in 1987 when he was 34.
Well one can't really fault Imran here. He did what he promised the nation i.e. filed a case against Altaf Bhai. Whether despite having convincing evidence against Altaf, Scotland Yard feel unable to act against him because of pressure from the British Government (due to pressure from PAK government) we don't know and would never know. Let's face it the controversial **Altaf Bhai does enjoy a cult like status among a certain section of our society so trying him let alone convicting him could in theory lead to serious riots, killings and destruction in parts of Pakistan i.e. instability in the country. **So it's not because Altaf Bhai is clean but because he has such controversial almost manic following amongst masses that perhaps SY felt its best not to proceed with his case any further. Atleast Imran had the guts to stand up for what he believed was morally right
I thank God for these lines, i wish other accept the reality too. Although i hate him. His party offered my dad 25 million in 18 feb elections for taking part in election from MQM-Punjab ticket.
Well ZAB was highly educated and smart, noone can deny that fact but it has to be said that despite his immense talent he did precious little for the country apart from commencing Pakistan's nuclear programme. He could have done so much for the country. He showed jhootay sapnay of roti kapra aur makan to the poor and spoiled the lower classes by telling them that they had always been wronged by Pakistan's upper and middle classes. Ask anyone in Pakistant.....servants aur peons k dimagh bhutto jaani k aanay k baad se hee kharaab hone shurou huey. And forget the rest of Pakistan what have the Bhutto family despite their enormous wealth really done for their own constituency in Sind. Garhi Khuda Bakhsh and Larkana are still dumps. Heck there are not even proper roads there.....which is one of the main reasons why so many foreign dignitaries could not attend BB's funeral
Atleast Shahbaz Sharif has done a great deal for Lahore and I believe he is expanding his good work throughout Punjab. Ask any Lahori. Like him or not he IS a good administrator....but that's not to say he is clean or not corrupt.
As for some of the other things you mention in relation to ZAB, when you hold such an important public office or are a cabinet minister I believe people expect you to do something significant and to not sit your a*se down on the sofa all day long. Imran has not been in that position so we can't really judge him or know what he could deliver if such a huge responsibility was thrust upon him. It is a futile comparison
Remember NS was a minister in Zia's cabinet when he was barely 30 (so does that mean that he's a genius). Even Imran Khan was offered a cabinet post by Zia in 1987 when he was 34.
We were talking about ZAB & Imran. But anyway, we can't compare ZAB with Nawaz Sharif either. Roti, Kapra, Makaan was a slogan needed for a torn apart nation for GOD sake at that time Pakistan was broke. It was none other then bhutto who get back our 70000 strong soliders and save rest of Pakistan from India aggression !
So now we know where you are coming from ![]()
I salute your honesty…
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I thank God for these lines, i wish other accept the reality too. Although i hate him. His party offered my dad 25 million in 18 feb elections for taking part in election from MQM-Punjab ticket.
So MQM waisted that money as they never won any punjabi seats!
I thank God for these lines, i wish other accept the reality too. Although i hate him. His party offered my dad 25 million in 18 feb elections for taking part in election from MQM-Punjab ticket.
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Woaa
I thank God for these lines, i wish other accept the reality too. Although i hate him. His party offered my dad 25 million in 18 feb elections for taking part in election from MQM-Punjab ticket!
I knew it!
Re: Tehreek Insaf
Poor PTI cant buy seats like that! Their entire budget for the year 2007 was around 10 million ruppes!!
http://www.insaf.pk/docs/AuditReport.pdf
This probably doubled recently but is still too small to compete at a national level! with the likes of PPP,PML-N & MQM.
Still even if they had the money, they would not buy seats like that!
Poor PTI cant buy seats like that! Their entire budget for the year 2007 was around 1 million ruppes!! This probably doubled recently but is still too small to compete at a national level! with the likes of PPP,PML-N & MQM.
We all know where all that money comes from, in the MQM's case, i.e. the Bhatta they forcibly collect from all over KArachi and Hyderabad.
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Still even if they had the money, they would not buy seats like that!
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This is why Imran is the man.
Don’t get so happy, PPP, PML-Q-N-L-M..etc all provide funds to their candidates, its a normal culture in politics of Pakistan. In Mush-gov first election all the PML-Q leaders were given 100 million each and some of them get more for their Aukaat !
*Never see & heard any of this about Jammat !
What ? ![]()
Don't get so happy, PPP, PML-Q-N-L-M..etc all provide funds to their candidates, its a normal culture in politics of Pakistan. In Mush-gov first election all the PML-Q leaders were given 100 million each and some of them get more for their Aukaat !
I appreciate that most parties buy seats in pakistan but are u sure your no getting your numbers mixed up? are u saying that some candidates get 10 cror Ruppee??!!!
No wonder pple go into politics for money!!!
I appreciate that most parties buy seats in pakistan but are u sure your no getting your numbers mixed up? are u saying that some candidates get 10 cror Ruppee??!!!
No wonder pple go into politics for money!!!
Only 10 Croor lol .. normally it would take 250 million for MNA seats.. from last election.
Re: Tehreek Insaf
25 Cror!! No Way PTI can buy even a single seat!!
A white lie.
PPP takes money from its candidates for ticket, same with PML Q, they basically sell heir ticket.
By the way how much your father contributed to MQM fund?
A white lie. ** PPP takes money from its candidates for ticket, same with PML Q, they basically sell heir ticket.**
By the way how much your father contributed to MQM fund?
It goes two way.
Why should my father contribute to MQM ? I wrote he was offered 25million from taking part in elections on MQM punjab ticket, which he refused !
PTI to form peace committees in NWFP
dailytimes
PESHAWAR: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI) on Sunday announced to form peace committees at union council level in the NWFP.
The proposed committees, to be named as Insaaf Markaz, will consist of people from all walks of life, PTI, NWFP, Finance Secretary Imran Shahzad told reporters at Peshawar Press Club.
He said PTI’s around 60,000 registered members would voluntarily work for the committees tasked with helping police restore law and order in respective union councils.
Shahzad said peace committees would be formed first in Peshawar and then other parts of the province.
He expressed concern about growing incidents of kidnapping for ransom, auto-theft and cellphone snatching in town.
He accused police of having connived with kidnappers and car lifters.
He warned police of protests if they failed to check lawlessness within three days.
The PTI, NWFP, Finance Secretary protested against party leader Fayyaz Khalil’s kidnapping bid on Warsak Road and the Manthra SHO’s refusal to register a case against unidentified kidnappers. He later led a protest rally of PTI workers against the kidnapping and the SHO’s rude behaviour. The protestors also shouted slogans against the ANP-PPPP government in the NWFP, saying the rulers have failed to solve their socio-economic problems.
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^ in your dreams
Re: Tehreek Insaf
Just thought I comment on the far sightedness of IK and the issues facing pak today.
This guy formed Insaf party for the independence of judicery in 1996 and people could not understand why?! Look at today, 12 years on and Judicery is the man topic in pakistani cirlces.
He boycotted elections in 2007 and people did not understand why!? Well he was right that elections like these are going to create more problems than resolve them!! Well look at the unrest now caused by the Civilian dictator as a result of 2007 election.!!
This guy seems to see the problems much before the other politicians for sure and no wonder is a popular choice with the media!!!