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Khusro lived in Delhi during the period from late 13th to early 14th century. There was already a lot of conversion of Hindus to Islam due to influence of sufis like Fariduddin Ganjshakar, Bakhtiyar Kaki and Moinuddin Chishti (predecessors of Nizam u din Auliya, the peer of Khusro). BTW, Fariddun Ganj shakar was a sufi poet and his poetry was later included in Sikh's Garanth. :)
but that does not prove that Amir Khusro had no influence.
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but that does not prove that Amir Khusro had no influence.
Ameer Khusro has his impact todate, but the impact of Nizmudin auliya and his predecessor sufi saints was / is more than him.
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Ameer Khusro has his impact todate, but the impact of Nizmudin auliya and his predecessor sufi saints was / is more than him.
I think the major source to "preach" hindus was Qawali. Whoever does with it to what extent does not matter.
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I think the major source to "preach" hindus was Qawali. Whoever does with it to what extent does not matter.
Qawwali is later invention during 13th / 14th century. so how did sufis preach in 11th and 12th centuries to non-Muslims?
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Qawwali is later invention during 13th / 14th century. so how did sufis preach in 11th and 12th centuries to non-Muslims?
We do not have figures on conversions of Hindus into muslims either. How, when, or how many.
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We do not have figures on conversions of Hindus into muslims either. How, when, or how many.
okay, but who knows how many were converted after and before Qawwali. Apart from that they are sufi orders who don't allow music, but still are equally popular.
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then no point of discussion?
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What was point of discussion? I just forgot
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have you by any chance studied in Urdu medium schools? The terminologies that you have mentioned remind me of the couple of years I studied in Urdu...
Yep. :D
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Sufis are biddati and convert hindus by singing qawalis. Who’s hating who?
Everyone was Sufi before the Wahhabism started few centuries ago. First thing they did was removing of Imam Busairis’s qaseeda from the walls of masjid e Nabwi. Now they are destroying all the qaboor of awliya.
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that was the most difficult period of my life, nizam e tanaffus, nizam e inhizaam etc 
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you mean the topic was ‘sufisim kab aur kaise tehleel huwa?’
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What does alqaa mean? Inspiration?
Chati hiss is sixth sense...but is that term used for intuition also? Or is there a different word for intuition?
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What does alqaa mean? Inspiration?
Chati hiss is sixth sense...but is that term used for intuition also? Or is there a different word for intuition?
isn't alqaa used in the meaning of reveal like Nirvana?
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:eek: I found what does ‘tehleel nafsi’ mean. it mean nafsiyati tajziya (psycho analysis).
lols it was used in this drama, where a psycho psychiatrist was asked by patient ‘aap ne kabhi apna nafsiyati tajziya karaya’ :rotfl:
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