Re: Teachings of Mujaddiths who follow Haneefi Madhab
The below is what I can infer from this thread this isnot for any individual but to each and every Muslim
I want an answer to the post #129, overall I am sorry for targetting any sect but I have the evidence and I just dont accuse without any proof. Now better we leave it at it.
It is obligatory on every person to adhere to the truth, what Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have asked us to do, not to the methodology of any individual.
But if an individual adheres to any sects set of beliefs and never deviates from it, this is not permitted. A Muslim has to follow the truth wherever it leads him. Even though it goes against you own nafs.
Muslim has to follow the truth, and help all other groups with regard to the truth, but s/he should not adhere to a particular way of thinking never forsaking it even if it turns out to be false or mistaken.
Re: Teachings of Mujaddiths who follow Haneefi Madhab
Salafis
The ones who are as salafis, we cannot have taqwa just by calling ourselves salafis. **I want to differentiate here by not calling ourselves salafis but we follow the salafi manhaj(way or methodology) **
Thats salaf as saliheen, the righeous predecessors (Rightly Guided Caliphs, Sahabas, Tabaeen and Tabe Tabeen, as told by our beloved Prophet may peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
I would like to end by quoting these words "Action without knowledge is misguidance, and hoping to acquire knowledge without learning is an illusion".
Surah Baqara 2:111 Produce your proof if your truthful. But if your not able to produce the truth Allaah in Quran, Surah Noor :13 When they have not brought the witnesses, such men, in the sight of Allah, (stand forth) themselves as liars!
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sher, how does it not answer thequestion? why do I need proof on these boards? and to who YOU bida sect?
Allahkabanda, are you in primary school? What's wrong with the structure of my sentences, don't you udnerstand the core meaning? Brain level okay? Or are you just gonna go around in circles.? Beating around the bushes.
Wasim, you too are going around in circles, that is what is wrong with salafis, you just want to accuse and accuse some more! Even though there I have provided many things to prove my standing..
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Allahkabanda, are you in primary school? What's wrong with the structure of my sentences, don't you udnerstand the core meaning? Brain level okay? Or are you just gonna go around in circles.? Beating around the bushes.
SubhaanAllah, Jazak Allah khair for insulting me, dear brother. This makes me laugh, nothing more. Insulting your own muslim brother (well, i know you believe that the people who aren't maqalid aren't muslims or rather gone astray) definitely makes you a great muslim? Now please don't tell me that Imaam Abou Hanifa (RAhmtullah alahi) told you to act like this!
I don't find any point aruging with a kid who takes things personally. Let me tell you something, if you believe that Salafis are gone astray or aren't muslims for whatever reasons, YOU ARE WRONG. Not because i'm saying but because the facts around us. **If you say that and beleive in it then it means that you also believe that the Imaams of Khana Kaba are also gone astray as most of them are Salafi, Allah Hu Akbar! Does it logically make sense and do you actually believe that Allah Subhaanu Wa Ta'ala have given the blessings to those people, who have gone astray and disobey him, to lead thousdands of people in the greatest house of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta'ala?
**Brother, please get your logic correct and may Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta'ala guidethis ummah on to the straight path and send His blessings upon us...Ameen!
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You are a muqalid so I don't expect you to know some basics about Islam. For example, the burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. You have made the claim that salafis are innovators so the burden of proof is on you, not me.
This discussion initially started when you said that salafis follow their desires because they don't follow one madhab, and I proved you wrong by showing you evidence from your own shaikh that this is allowed. Either you didn't know about this, or you were lying.
Now, you have again made another claim with no evidence to back it up. If you want me to expose your lies again then I will, otherwise refrain from making false accusations that have no basis.
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Wasim, you too are going around in circles, that is what is wrong with salafis, you just want to accuse and accuse some more! Even though there I have provided many things to prove my standing..
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First refer to my post #142, and especially the 2 ayat in the end of the post.
Secondly my 2 brothers, who adhere to the truth of Quran and Sunnah, have answered your false claims. Now the onus is on you to gain knowledge, and not live in a life of pretense. Remember i told you once People are more intelligent now. The proof is there right in front of you. Surah Isra:81 I say this to you When Truth arrives, falsehood perishes, falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
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First contradiction Salafis are here from only 100 years. But Ebrahim Desai say for some couple of centuries.
Second contradiction dont follow your own nafs, but later comments thats to follow a madhab nafs is a prerequisite.
Thirdly the website you pick up material from, has lots of contradiction in itself.
From your website we have proved that when passing fatwas, the proof or evidence was lacking, except for a very few. Even the evidence of Abu Hanifa, was not discussed.
Now check out these websites and compare with yours how majority (99%) of questions are dealt with in evidence and proof of Quran and Sunnah, comprehensively. www.islam-qa.com
**www.islamweb.net **
Jazakallaah Wakiru Dawah Wa Allhamdullillaahi, wa Rabil Alameen.
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Again you guys won't understand the simplest of meanings. There is no point in going on with this thread.. wasim you started this thread with stupid acusations... wow goodjob.
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refer to my signature.
You were the one who created other anti salafi threads. And yes, you are not in a position to argue anything, I hope this puts an end to the false information that you have been trying to spread. Since, you are a muqallid shouldn't you leave all the arguing on these matters to your shuyukh?
Anyways, I was listening to a lecture today and the lecturer pointed out that the Ulama, unlike the Prophets, are not infallible. And because there is a possibility that the Ulama can make mistakes, we shouldn't just follow them blindly. Something for you to think about.
Also, I don't think you understood what Faraz Rabbani said in his answer above. He didn't say that taking opinions from another madhab is following your nafs. He was saying that "fatwa shopping" (asking scholars until you find a particular opinion) is following your nafs.
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Cricketpalya, you avoid questions which are important for this particular, thread thats been your overall trend.
The accusations I have claimed to my fellow Mujaddiths of Haneefi Madhab are facts and if you have to prove me wrong, then provide me with a proof whether these comments are not found in there respective sayings.
Well they are worst comments and documented stuff than the ones I have posted, and I refrained from these because I dont wont to escalate the topic and** I have heard it right from the Horse's Mouth.**
Why I say you are Muqallid is, because you just take there teachings without any proof. Its like you believe 2+2 = 5.
I can agree with the muslims in sub continents where its easy for these scholars to, blind fold the ummah because of the poverty and illetracy which exists here.
But if young educated blood like you and I, if we stop educating ourselves its a calamity to the whole of Muslim Ummah.
Remember, its going to affect us but also our next generations to come.