=being really really helpful even off lectures and once the teacher-student relationship is developed,students get the license to take help of any kind from the teacher even when you are not a student anymore or have left university....
=the way teachers deliver lecture with the addition of personal experiences, incidents, koi bhi choti si baat during lecture that could affect your personality and life....they become more like mentors...
= here teachers do pass students if they do little bit of "tarlay mintain" lol.....not all the teachers but i unfortunately had to study some IT courses during my bachelors and before that i had no idea what i was going into so this teacher of ours really helped me (through out) preparing assignments projects and even passing the course....
well i have never respected a teacher much but it wasnt a complete fault at my side.Those teachers never gave the feeling that they are building my future.They never bothered actually.
Some of the things I hear out of Hareem's mouth on here - surprises me.
Hareem, do you know the difference between atheist and secular?
And even if a teacher has a different religion than a student - it doesn't mean your kid has a right to go into their class and create problems. Nor is a teacher who is atheist who teaches some topic going to teach your kid not to believe in God. If they were hired to teach English, they will teach English, not atheism. Believe it or not.
There is an story regarding Imam Abu Hanifa, during his class he stand up in respect of sweeper, people asked him reason.
He told them that one day he teach him about something so he become his teacher. That is the reason he respecting him.
Is clearly shows that all teachers r respectable regardless subject or religion.
IMHO, It ALL depends on the teacher mainly.... some teachers we respected and cared for a lot, some teachers we laughed at, some teachers made us rattofy things and would deduct marks if we wrote answers in 'our own words', some actually encouraged thinking and understanding stuff, some even made us do case studies and held open book exams.... it was a lot of fun though, I miss my student life :( (I got all of my education from Pakistan)
I was trying to point out that Hadith is referring to religious teachers when it wants you unequivocally respect a teacher because of the assumptions it places in regards to character etc. Or at the very least, assumes the teacher is muslim.
I'm trying to highlight to some people that you can't bring religion into everything. Respect your teachers and good people and because they are good teachers not because you think religion has told you to.
As for my personal opinion, I think you missed out the religion hating bit. I find it hard to respect someone on all levels when they take a very vocal Dawkin-esque stance towards religion, are bigoted and live a completely hedonistic life despite the fact of the people they hurt along away.
So yes, we have this "personal" relationship with our supervisor and unfortunately it's stretched to far that we know everything about his life and find it hard to take him seriously outside a work situation.
But he's also incredibly patient when it comes to teaching. Believes in people's abilities where other supervisors would cast them aside. And is incredibly generous. My respect is founded on this.
Some of our more religious pals on here would flatly refuse to work closely alongside such a person, regardless of the positives.
Hence my initial assertion that the original post was confused with mixed and conflicting ideas.
Oops, I didn't read your entire post earlier. My bad.. And yeah I totally agree with you by the way.
well i have never respected a teacher much but it wasnt a complete fault at my side.Those teachers never gave the feeling that they are building my future.They never bothered actually.
That's so true. (most) Teachers these days just want to make some money so they can pay their bills. I guess that's the same in any other career...
Huma, I feel your wisdom of 21 years is wasted on GS Life 1. Perhaps you should be educating the Leprechauns of Paddy Land with all your 'fatual' knowledge. I am sure they will learn SO much and would be grateful to respect such a wonder teacher as yourself.
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That's so true. (most) Teachers these days just want to make some money so they can pay their bills. I guess that's the same in any other career...
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Do you know how much most teachers earn? It's a pittance. I don't know anyone who's just doing it just to pay their bills.
Huma, I feel your wisdom of 21 years is wasted on GS Life 1. Perhaps you should be educating the Leprechauns of Paddy Land with all your 'fatual' knowledge. I am sure they will learn SO much and would be grateful to respect such a wonder teacher as yourself.
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Do you know how much most teachers earn? It's a pittance. I don't anyone who's just doing it just to pay their bills.
Since I'm in college now, I can relate better to lecturers... and they earn a MASSIVE amount here in Ireland... anywhere between 60,000 to 100,000 euros.
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Since I'm in college now, I can relate better to lecturers... and they earn a MASSIVE amount here in Ireland... anywhere between 60,000 to 100,000 euros.
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Semantics Huma, semantics.
Don't use words unless you know what they mean, obviously there is a difference of pay between Teachers and Lecturers. Most lecturers, if not all, carry out research as well as teaching. There is a lot more involved in their job description.
Don't use words unless you know what they mean, obviously there is a difference of pay between Teachers and Lecturers. Most lecturers, if not all, carry out research as well as teaching. There is a lot more involved in their job description.
What is the ideal job description? What are teachers/lecturers supposed to be doing?
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Since I'm in college now, I can relate better to lecturers... and they earn a MASSIVE amount here in Ireland... anywhere between 60,000 to 100,000 euros.
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I thought we already went over this. You only earn that much once you get a professorship (which is very different from the USA btw) and lectureship is just a very small part of the job.
We have a lecturer/research group leader who has been applying for years for a professorship, without joy. He's finally realised he will only make 'reader' for now. It's no easy task to get that level (professor), it's seen as the final career step. And really, compared to the same level of job in industry, 60,000-100,000 Euros is nothing.
*Teachers *are predominantly school teachers and they earn a low salaries like most other public sector workers.
I like a teacher who gives you something to take home to think about besides homework. Lily Tomlin as "Edith Ann"
The dream begins with a teacher who believes in you, who tugs and pushes and leads you to the next plateau, sometimes poking you with a sharp stick called "truth." Dan Rather
A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary. Thomas Carruthers
**Teaching is the profession that teaches all the other professions. **
etc. etc. etc....
I'm sorry but I don't see this any more... it seems like the above quotes are talking about a fairy tale profession.
The world has changed. Gone are the days that "students" were an exception in the largely illiterate society. Teaching has also changed.
If you get to a stage where you have a lot of 1 to 1 time with a teacher, be it in university or outside, you will experience the things in those quotes.
The world has changed. Gone are the days that "students" were an exception in the largely illiterate society. Teaching has also changed.
If you get to a stage where you have a lot of 1 to 1 time with a teacher, be it in university or outside, you will experience the things in those quotes.
now that's a great point. teachers are way, way underpaid for the work they do especially when you compare their salaries to salaries in finance/consulting, etc. teachers should be paid at a level that makes teaching one of the most sought after professions. and they totally deserve it given the role they play in shaping lives. you never forget a good teacher no matter at what level you had him/her.
things are decent for teachers in Canada though could be a lot better imo. but things are desperate for teachers in Pakistan in most schools. the reason given generally is that ppl who've failed at everything else become teachers and hence, the poor level of teaching. we can easily fix that by increasing salaries to competitive levels and in return, you'd get more qualified ppl picking the profession. and slowly but surely the profession would lift itself and the standard of teaching would improve everywhere.
[QUOTE] I like a teacher who gives you something to take home to think about besides homework. Lily Tomlin as "Edith Ann"
The dream begins with a teacher who believes in you, who tugs and pushes and leads you to the next plateau, sometimes poking you with a sharp stick called "truth." Dan Rather
A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary. Thomas Carruthers
**Teaching is the profession that teaches all the other professions. **
etc. etc. etc....
I'm sorry but I don't see this any more... it seems like the above quotes are talking about a fairy tale profession.
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I've heard these sorts of things stated for a lot of my colleagues as well as my own teachers. I guess it just depends on where you are and who you have encountered.
Do you know how much most teachers earn? It's a pittance. I don't know anyone who's just doing it just to pay their bills.
Exactly. The ones who just do it to get by are either burnt out or went into the profession after failing at everything else. No one goes into teaching just to make money.