In general, i think tauqir did a decent job as chairman. Yes there were a few crucial decisions that he got wrong, but at least he had the good intentions!
As for his successor, i think most of us agree on Ramiz. He's a decent, nuetral guy who has served Pakistan cricket with sincerity and he will definitely make pakistan cricket better.
Tauqir resigned after criticism by Musharraf
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Tauqir Zia resigned from his post after Patron of the Board, President General Pervez Musharraf, criticised him for awarding the telecasting rights of the Pakistan-New Zealand one-day series to a private channel, Daily Times learnt here on Tuesday.
Sources said that President Musharraf took notice of the dispute when the row over telecasting rights between the Pakistan Television (PTV) and the Dubai-based private channel Geo was highlighted in the national press. “Musharraf called an emergency meeting and expressed deep concern over the issue and asked Tauqir to give all contracts after following the due procedure”, said the sources. “Tauqir left the meeting with heavy heart”, the sources claimed. “Later, he contacted the President and informed that he was not in a position to continue his job. The President accepted his resignation but asked him to work till 14th of December”, the sources added.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_3-12-2003_pg2_4
^^ I am not sure abt this story
Why is that akpower…
My friend S.B. always says on these things.....
“You are asked to resign rather then being fired, on high ranking jobs to avoid embarrassments from the public and media"
Don’t u remember 12 October 1999 ?????????
An amateur in a professional world
An amateur in a professional world
Kamran Abbasi
December 2, 2003
Lt-Gen. Tauqir Zia has stepped down as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board. Kamran Abbasi assesses his four-year tenure – and finds little to cheer.
Adios General. You came, you saw, and you bombed out. I want to find words of praise for your tenure, but I struggle. The best I can manage is that I believe you meant well – as do many others. I want to catalogue your many achievements as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board. Genuine contributions to Pakistan cricket, not the silly curriculum vitae that the cricket board distributed on your departure. I find little to cheer.
It matters not what you did or did not achieve as an army general, your role in Pakistan’s nuclear strategy, or your peace-time medals. It matters not whether or not you played cricket well or badly in your youth. What matters is your legacy to Pakistan cricket, because you had a free hand and a secure tenure, unlike many of your predecessors. You had manna from heaven – match-fixing and dismal results – to justify your agenda for change. You had the public’s support and desperation for a better system. You were in the right place at the right time – but you were the wrong man. We had great expectations of you and your mandate, but you failed us.
Bowing to the will of foot-soldiers is not the behaviour of a general, yet you allowed Pakistan’s cricketers to run the show, even in their days of decadence and self-serving myopia. You procrastinated over genuine changes in policy, procrastination that would have brought a swift death on the battlefield but meant a lingering expiration on the cricket field. You backed the wrong horses through thick and thin. Why? Aamer Sohail, Richard Pybus and Waqar Younis, as chairman of selectors, coach and captain, were horribly miscast in those roles.
I will say again, you meant well. You wanted the best for Pakistan cricket, and you needed people with the same conviction. You failed to find them, instead taking counsel from people who steered you wrong. As head of Pakistan cricket you were employed for your judgment, and I’m sorry to say that your judgment failed you. Perhaps you never had it in the first place. Perhaps you were a half-informed enthusiast in a business for professional executives. Remember that in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
Pakistan fans deserved better than the constant chopping and changing – captains, coaches, selectors came and went. Pakistan fans expected more than devaluation of the currency that is an international cap – novices, chancers, and redundant talents donned the green and gold. Pakistan fans wanted a real vision, not just talk of one. Great leadership is based on values, General, and in four years we never discovered what your values were. Pakistan fans wanted a system of transparency and accountability. One benefit of our modern world is that when you act locally you are judged globally. This can only be good for Pakistan’s systems of governance.
Instead of developing, Pakistan became the laughing stock of international cricket – all talk of talent and no results. Imran Khan and Javed Miandad led us out of the wilderness: you helped us wander back into it. Our most embarrassing World Cup finally gave you the courage to put Pakistan cricket back on the right track – look how quickly fortune has turned despite your misguided chairman of selectors.
It would be churlish to ignore your achievements, though, because there were some. You robustly supported Shoaib Akhtar through his throwing bans, fragile fitness, and late-night binges. You promoted a rethink in Pakistan’s domestic cricket, and you encouraged the formation of academies and scouting for regional talent. But you fired so many salvos that some were bound to hit the target.
Still, your ultimate failure was one of management. You were responsible for four years of poor decision-making. The man at the top carries the can – that is how any organisation works – but you were ever-reluctant to go. Even your timing makes little sense, unleashing a period of uncertainty with India on the horizon. Now you depart, it seems, more to allow your son a chance at an uncontroversial career than for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. That says it all.
Who can know who will follow? Khalid Mahmood, Arif Abbasi (no relation), Ramiz Raja, even Imran or Majid Khan? Pakistan cricket and the whims of the president are too unpredictable to hazard a guess. But what is needed is someone with a clear vision. A dynamic leader, a man of judgment, and a professional. The time for well-meaning amateurism is over. Adios General. I trust it isn’t hasta la vista.
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Why is that akpower…
My friend S.B. always says on these things.....
“You are asked to resign rather then being fired, on high ranking jobs to avoid embarrassments from the public and media"
Don’t u remember 12 October 1999 ?????????
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no its not that .. its just that i havent heard this news from any other new source
http://www-usa.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/DEC/004512_PAK_04DEC2003.html
Tauqir Zia might stay on for India series
Despite his resignation on Monday, which is due to take effect on December 14, Lt-Gen. Tauqir Zia, the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, might continue in the role until next April.
An article in Pakistan’s News newspaper claims that Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf wants Tauqir to remain in place until then to ensure that the high-profile series against India goes ahead without any hitches.
“The feeling is that with such an important series coming up it would be difficult for the new chairman to set things in motion for the India series,” the newspaper quotes an unnamed source as saying. "The advantage with Tauqir is that he has been around for four years and his team of administrators have done a successful job organizing the home series against Bangladesh, South Africa and New Zealand.
“The idea was also that since Tauqir had been dealing with the Indian cricket officials for sometime now he could communicate better with them.”
What is certain is that there has been confusion within the PCB in the immediate aftermath of Tauqir’s resignation. Yesterday, rumours circulated that Rameez Raja, the PCB’s chief executive, had stepped down, and he had to issue an official denial. “I have not resigned,” he said. " The chairman has not asked anyone in the board to resign or anything like that."
But it might just be a temporary reprieve for Rameez. The local newspapers are full of speculation as to the reason behind Tauqir’s decision, and many say that without his support, Rameez is doomed. “His [Tauqir’s] dependence on one man, Rameez Raja, wearing five hats, and an average Test player, earned him a bad name,” wrote Rehan Siddiqui in Dawn. “Engaging dozens of foreign coaches allegedly at the behest of Rameez for astronomical remunerations brought bitter criticism from every quarter.”
Well what u ppl think/say about this now ???
I think Rameez is no Amatuer … he well capable to guide the ship into save heaven instead of Mr. Zia …
Dawn newspaper has a history of criticizing everything. Thats why major pcb critics like Zaheer abbas constantly writes in Dawn. Yes Tauqir made mistakes, but mostly he did a right job. And dawn hardly appreciates anything, Ramiz has done a satisfying job as CEO mainly responsible for resumption of home series, indo-pak series....
This is a sad fact that Our opinions are always stubborn. When we form a negative opinion about someone, we stick to that and hardly appreciate ANY positives
I agree with Dawn. Ramiz was an avg. player and i dont expect too much from him. What exactly has he achieved for Pakistan cricket? Not criticising but I find it hard to come up with a decent answer for that.
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I agree with Dawn. Ramiz was an avg. player and i dont expect too much from him. What exactly has he achieved for Pakistan cricket? Not criticising but I find it hard to come up with a decent answer for that.
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CP-- who says that you have to be a master cricket player for CEO or chairman post? You need to have proper management skills with cricketing experience (Ramiz qualifies for that) plus being on tours and being in touch with experts all over the world for commentary purposes he knows the know-how of modern cricket and thats all needed. He is a well educated man with excellent communication skills thus makes him perfect for the job. Look at the CEO or chairman all over the world and you wont find Richards, holdings, Gavaskars as chairmen/CEO of respective board.
Regarding his achivements, for starters he worked day and night for the national cricke Academy. He was instrumental in the resumption of home series, indo pak ties and restructuring of domestic criekt which recently has produced far more exciting matches than ever before. If somone cant acknowledge that, i feel sorry for him/her. and thats what 'Dawn' doesnt do.
Very well said Saby :k:
Noone said one needs to be a good cricketer to be a good manager. Dawn was just stating a fact that he was an avg. player. I think nobody would disagree with that. Its just that when you say he represented Pakistan, its only fair to also mention that he was a player of ordinary abilities.
Now, Gavaskars etc might not be the chairmen of any board but the likes of sobers, vivian, allan border, Bradman, Hafeez Kardar, and countless other legendary cricketers I can’t recall have helped or are still helping their respective boards, in one way or the other. What have we? A three man circus? And two of them with average capabilities in their chosen professions? Does Pakistan have no options other than these two? Limited versatility at the top means limited ideas, and a limited vision. Simple as that.
Look at this:
Whats the wisdom behind this? I hope you realise this practise of concentrating jobs into person is against the norms of developed world. I also hope that you realise that this practise, if continued, will destroy whats left of the PCB as an institution. As well-educated as he is portrayed to be, Ramiz ought to know that.
http://www.dawn.com/2003/07/26/spt1.htm
If they want specialist bowling coahces then you name one that is better than Waseem Akram? Especially from amongst this forgiven lot of heavenly clowns selected by our obviously worthy Chairman and his henchmen?
And the PCB Chairman tell us that PCB has less than Rs.50 crores in its coffers. I wonder where all the money went.
http://www.dawn.com/2003/04/25/spt3.htm
This trio of Tauqir-Ramiz-Sohail has given a new meaning to the term public nautanki. From selection debacles to Bangla team flying in economy class to poor food arrangments at Multan are all part of Ramiz’s legacy. Does that teach you a lesson in management? This stuff is just off the top of my head. I am sure there is more.
Talking abt effective communication. Sure he can express himself in English, but does that make him a good communicator? Chisti Mujahid can speak better English, been following cricket around the world. What more, he’s been doing both far longer than Ramiz. Has Ramiz done anything that shows his great communication skills? Don’t mention the RSA series. It was a communication disaster to begin with. Additionaly, having good communications skills might be good for someone on junior levels but a person sitting at such a high post not only needs to have good communication skills but he also must ensure that a proper communication mechanisn is developed for and followed by the board members.
Who is responsible for not doing just that, and the ensuing communcations through press? I hope I don’t have to answer that for you.
I’ll give him credit for working on the Academies. But like Zaheer Abbas very rightly said “Why do you need a cricket academy in every nook and corner of the country? Why can’t we have one national academy where you bring selected players from all over pakistan to train? You can pick talented players during the season and train them further during the off-season. They play in the next season and you work from there on”
Secondly, cricket academies are the order of the day. Just abt every country has one now. India, England, RSA, Australia. So creating academies is not something ingenious but following the international trend and part of the reason why Tauqir was brought in: change. Not having one would obviously mean more backlash from the media, and since the ever-so-busy Commentator-cum-CEO was doing nothing else anyway, this must’ve sounded like a good time kill to him. I also have problems with Ramiz being the chief coach at the academy. We have proper coaches who have passed level III coaching courses from england running around, and Ramiz gets to be the chief coach? On what basis? If he was so sincere to the Pakistan cricket, he should’ve politely refused and let proper people come forward. But no. He must have the chief coach job too. Makes me wonder if he was trying to create some kind of world record by taking all these jobs.
I don’t follow domestic cricket very closely but from the comments of some of the players, its a joke. PCB’s been changing the structure every year. If you want to give him credit for that, then sure. But if you are implying that the domestic cricket this year was more interesting because of the regional cricket element, and Ramiz was somehow behind it all, then i’ll have to disagree, again! Everybody knows who was actually behind this idea. I think giving Ramiz the credit and not not Imran Khan would unfair. He’d been advocating this cause all along. OTOH, it took our glorious CEO an insulting early exit from the WC to realise the rot in the domestic cricket and he decided to change it. We went from the second-best to second-worst. If Ramiz was so genuinely concerned abt the domestic cricket, then what was he doing for the other 3 years? He only agreed to change the structure after the embarrasing WC exit. Obviously, the departmental cricket was not bringing forward the talent to play international cricket. Public demanded change. So instead of change at the top, they changed the domestic cricket. Don’t kid yourself by thinking it was all part of some dynamite plan to help cricket. It was a back-to-the-wall decision when nothing else seemed to work. You want to give him credit for that, sure. Be my guest.
Similarly, the Indo-Pak series was dead and buried until the Indian govt. took a U-turn. What was Ramiz’s achievement in that decision, exactly? He had given up and the eventual stance of the board was “If India doesn’t come, we won’t go” Thats simple and effective but I question how you can credit him for taking such a stance. A six year old won’t play with you if you refuse to play with him.
But forget everything I just said. Just give us the frickin’ constituion. Where is it? What has Ramiz done abt it? Wasn’t that part of the reason why Tauqir and subsequently Ramiz was brought in? Four years and they don’t have the single most played up card for the grand entry of the exalted General. Clean up, reforms and a new consitituion? Have we so far managed to achieve even one objective? Wow. I dont have the words. What an over-achieving group of in-breds we have, people. We must bow to them and sing hymns.
I have nothing personal against Ramiz though and I respect your opinion abt him. For me, he hasn’t done much. After 4 years, and so much drama; its time for a change. You may feel sorry for me for not appreciating Ramiz but I feel sorry for our cricket more than anyone and anything else. I wont even touch on what these clowns did to national treasures such as Waseem and Saeed for that is another thread.