TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

A very strange and ironical story. But now that it has happened, we can see why it is not that difficult to do. The TATA group is using its international reputation to branch out past English only … since Indians don’t speak Spanish see what they did! That is enterprise. (another group is doing that by employing Chinese)

Check Out That Colombian Tata!

   **         The Colombian office of an Indian consulting firm staffed  partly with Uruguayans and reporting to a boss in Argentina; Now that's  globalization

Ordinarily, discussions of outsourcing and business process automation are, to put it charitably, less than riveting. You sit in a small, climate-controlled conference room, sipping a cup of uninspiring coffee, the middle-aged senior manager approaches the whiteboard, and a little something inside you dies.**

But when Gonzalo Rodriguez, general manager of Colombia’s office of Tata Consultancy Services, pulled out his washable marker and launched into a discussion, I was utterly transfixed. Perhaps it was the altitude, or the caffeine and sugar. In the six hours since I had arrived in Bogota (elevation 8,400 feet) I had been plied with cups of coffee and arepas at a rate of roughly one per hour. (I’m here this week with a group of journalists attending the World Economic Forum Latin America in Cartagena.) But I actually think I was simply amazed by the irony, scope, and complexity of globalization.
Tata Consultancy Service is part of the Indian Tata complex of companies, including Tata Motors, which recently purchased Jaguar and Land Rover, and Tata Steel, now owner of Corus. It first arrived in Colombia in 2005, where it now employs 300 engineers, analysts, and support staff.
Colombia has emerged in recent years, and especially in the past year, as an island of relative economic stability in northern South America. And so the demand for IT services has risen apace. Colombia’s GDP, hit by the economic crisis, grew only 0.4 percent in 2009. But a modernizing government and rising investment in the energy industries is fueling demand for TCS’s services. Last year, TCS’s Colombia business grew 50 percent and Gonzalez expects 2010’s growth rate will be similar.
This struck me as a great example of south-south trade— i.e., trade within the developing world. Here are Colombian workers, providing services to local and multinational companies, working collaboratively with colleagues in Montevideo; Uruguay; and Chennai, India; and reporting to a manager in Buenos Aires, Argentina, who in turn makes a monthly trek to India to meet with his superiors. In Colombia, business is conducted entirely in Spanish. But Tata’s internal language is English—heavily accented, jargon-filled, acronym-based English.

       What's driving the growth at TCS? "ADM." (Application,  development, and maintenance). TCS specializes in installing complex  software systems in large institutions and then making sure they  function properly. In Colombia, TCS helps companies such as [Dell](http://www.dell.com/)  and [Oracle](http://www.oracle.com/index.html) service their clients. It also takes on big  projects for large institutions. "As of today we have presence in the  banking industry, telecommunications, airlines, and in government,"  Rodriguez said. For the ministry of finance, it's instituting a system  to handle the national budget. For Bancolombia, it's developing software  tools to manage loans. "We provide updates, and maintain  functionality," he said. Other large clients include [Banco de Occident](https://www.bancodeoccidente.com.co/servlet/page?_pageid=1484&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30) and the airline [Avianca](http://www.avianca.com/AviancaHome/flash/portada.aspx?idioma=es&pais=CO&CheckPortada=NO).
       Gonzales waxed (not quite poetic) about several other  acronyms. BPO (business process outsourcing) is a growing sector. Tata's  GDS (global delivery system) model allows it to service clients around  the world and share knowledge. The Colombia office has about 20  employees from India and about 15 from Uruguay, the site of one of  Tata's GDCs (global delivery centers). "We provide services to Colombia  customers with around 700 resources—300 in Colombia and about 400  elsewhere, like Montevideo and Chennai," he said. And perhaps this was  the most telling sign that things have changed for a fortunate part of  the population here. (Colombia, with GDP per capita of about $5,600, is  still a poor country). It was refreshing to hear talk of "resources" and  realize he was actually talking about "people"—not natural gas, or  precious metals, or agricultural commodities. Make no mistake.  Colombia's growth continues to be driven in large part by the old  north-south trade—pulling metals and hydrocarbons out of the earth and  shipping them to more advanced economies and relying on cheap labor to  produce shoes, garments, and other goods. But TCS is an early sign that  Colombia is developing an industry built around human resources. There's  got to be acronym for that.

they are busy in jihad sir...since islam is in danger

That's true to large extent.

BD is tiny when it comes to their number of colleges, number degrees etc.

But Pakistan does have a chance only if we rid ourselves from the shackles of ethnic and tribal (Islamists) fascism. We'll have our own Manshas and Tatas instead of waiting for the Indian Tata.

However Tata consultancy is definitely in need to expand into latin American countries for their obvious supply of "Spanish speaking" population.

Latin American countries do have law and order problem, however one thing that puts them miles ahead of Pakistan is that Latin American countries are free and fun. You can enjoy food, their dances, their beeches without ever worrying that some self-appointed moralist Maulana would show up carrying a danda (or worse an AK-47) and blast the hell out of poor fun-loving foreign visitors.

Pakistan could easily beat countries like Brazil because of our market share based on ~200 million population base, highly educated English speaking elite, and a decent infrastructure.

But the Brazilians win hands down due to their fun loving character (not too different from Indians), and perhaps their natural resources. However natural resources is never the key to progress. Look at Japan, and see that a nation with very little resources is sitting at the top of the top countries in the world.

But we refuse. we refuse to get up on our feet and thus marooned to be mentally occupied by Middle Eastern Bedduins and physically occupied by the IMF and WB.

And thus we live every day slaving and toiling in the sectarian and religious dung heap, whereas we could easily be another Asian tiger.

after writing research paper of this sort u should once read it before posting to see wether is makes any sense or not.
how can one enjoy food,dance and beach when there is a severe law and order problem.do u know whats the percentage of kidnapping in latin american countries.do some research on it and stop using the word maulana in derogatory manner.i have seen u do it before too and i think u should stop for good.

That is a tall order.!

why don't you (if you can afford it) make a trip to Rio, or any other favorite destination.

And once you have done that, then come back we'll talk.

We'll exchange the stories of our favorite restaurants, beeches or whatever fancied you during your trip.

No need to be defender of Maulanas. They can do that job much better than you.

Thank you.

why are you generalizing as latin american countries? there are a number of perfectly safe (well, as safe as most civilized countries) countries in LatAm. The B in BRIC is Brazil for a reason!

The point is numeorus smaller countries are making some progress and Pakistan is unable to because of the extremists - religious extremists in most parts.

Re: TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

Because it makes crap instead of cars. they also have tata in the middle east and the only people buying them are indians. i am sure there are lot of indians in Columbia.

Oh Bhai,

They have TATA software group in Columbia and not the car making group.

Re: TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

nonsense. The Pakistani software company i worked for five years ago had an outsourced office in Columbia or some other latin american country. they’re attractive for things like tech support because they have low wages and are in the same time zone as America.

100 % correct.

They are good to support the spanish language based IT/call center type projects.

However these countries have additional advantages.

Columbia is only 6 hours of flight, and in a similar time zone as many major US cities.

They are culturally more flexible and thus better at hosting meetings with / of US executives.

Pakistan has got a software company?? they can’t make needle in their own country and beg for anything and everything to US and china. this is nonsense. This company seems to be US multination. May be a marketing office in pakistan…

Re: TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

:rolleyes:

Navtech,

is your post yet another attempt by an Indian to throw some trash on Pakistan? looks like it!

Didn’t realize that you will not know anything about the software industry in Pak. It is tiny compared to Indian industry but its there.

And yes like many multinationals some of these companies may be lined to or owned by US/EU based entities.

P@SHA

that is somewhat similar to the Indian counterpart NASSCOM.

heheh look who is talking, "the technology queen of the world" LMAO...

Re: TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

why do we turn everything into another opportunity for insulting each other

Re: TATA in Columbia! why not Pakistan & BD?

BTW this gets even stranger, interesting rather:

The Ohio governor Ted Strickland is afraid of heights but still climbed up 40ft in a cherry picker in an attempt to get Tata officials to open an office in Ohio! And Tata Consultants did just that and have hired 300+ local graduates to work in their back-office outsourcing business!

I would say this is a very smart move since government contracts are getting more and more difficult to offshore!

Desi IT cos US dilemma-Software & Services-News-Indiatimes - Infotech

Ohio Governor Ted Strickland is quick to admit that he doesn’t “particularly enjoy heights.” So why would he climb into a cherry picker to be lifte
d 40 feet in the air?

To show off a 196,000-square-foot office park in the Cincinnati suburb of Milford to executives from Tata Consultancy Services, India’s biggest tech company and a thriving part of the Tata Group conglomerate.

To sweeten the deal, Strickland threw in $19 million in tax credits and invited the TCS crew to a state dinner at the governor’s mansion. “The economy is difficult,” Strickland said. “I will go wherever I can to find jobs.”

TCS said yes, and in November Strickland showed up at the sprawling wooded campus for a ceremony to mark the hiring of the 300th employee at what has become the cornerstone for TCS’s North American efforts.

Tata has hired some 250 graduates of Ohio State University, the University of Cincinnati, and other nearby schools. Soon the facility may employ as many as 1,000 Americans doing back-office and technology outsourcing for US health-care companies and local governments.

**Atlanta, Dallas **
With the economy growing again but unemployment stuck at double-digit levels, states and municipalities across the US are scrambling to woo anyone with hiring plans — even if that means going hat in hand to the same bunch that have been responsible for hundreds of thousands of jobs going overseas.

Dallas, Atlanta, Minneapolis, and Tallahassee have all been actively courting Indian tech outfits. **Wipro Technologies in March inaugurated a center in Atlanta, **which now has 350 employees – nearly 300 of them Americans, including senior managers recruited from US tech rivals. Infosys Technologies, meanwhile, is planning an operation in Dallas, to target some of the $52 billion the US government will spend on outsourcing work just in 2010.

Wow… Ofcourse! Your brilliant. It all makes sense now!

The fact that we have hostile relations with India for nearly 60 years has absolutely nothing to do with it..

I suppose the other multi national companies that are operating in Pakistan are also imaginary! :rolleyes:

Just because we dont have TATA in Pakistan is hardly something we should worry about...

Pakistan does have multinational companies.

Pakistanis are a nation of 180 Million, and the extremists you refer to are a minuscule proportion of the over all society.

And you make it out to seem as though Pakistanis are extremists by nature...

You fail to recall the fact that there is a war going on to our East. To expect such a war to have no effect on Pakistan is naive at best and ignorant at worst.

LOL.. Your pathetic...

I suppose the computers your using were also built by Indians. The software technology you Indian are exporting is stuff made by others, not Indians.

Indians themselves only profit from the inventions of others..

Everything you Indians have made has been a failure.