Sharif has little stake in Karachi. No wonder he is all deaf ear on Karachi situation other than giving a bayaan here, giving a bayaan there.
Any party that has stake and manpower in Karachi, is involved in Ghunda-Gardi one way or another and yes I agree to you that MQM is run differently from other main stream parties. Its run like a mafia. There are not 2 question about it. Main disagreement is on the point that 'MQM being ghunda party' does not make other parties Farishta. Other parties are not lacking will to go on rampage they are just lacking the forece that MQM has in Karachi.
I agree with the post except last line.
It does not take many forces to go on a rampage against innocent unarmed people, as most victims are.
ANP/PPP, etc could easily kill 80,100 unarmed innocents in a week as MQM does, but they don't.
ANP/PPP do some bad things, but again, not as bad as the MQM, and that is not because of numbers. It is because they are not run as a criminal mafia - as you have said.
Note it that there was no blame at PPP before last year. During last year things are being changed. May be there some local wing is developed or organized by some one .
Actually Pakistan's most powers are changed like a mafia and there is strong alliance of the mafias have been developed.
All big political groups are working there,fighting for getting big share.
Our intermediate pass intellectuals are key players and our media is too working as partner. It is an unbelievable situation perhaps never seen any where before. Zulfqar Mirza is just a 'Jazbati' person making us little happy with his statements but thanks to him and Scotland yard that people of Karachi saw a little peace.
It does not take many forces to go on a rampage against innocent unarmed people, as most victims are.
ANP/PPP, etc could easily kill 80,100 unarmed innocents in a week as MQM does, but they don't.
ANP/PPP do some bad things, but again, not as bad as the MQM, and that is not because of numbers.
Lets agree to disagree then.
ANP/PPP dont do** bad things** they KILL people, just like MQM does and yes its has everything to do with numbers, resources and managing the backlash from MQM. ANP/PPP has every will to strike back with same proportion. We just saw the 'muzahira' of that couple of weeks ago when Liyari gang executed almost same number of people as MQM did and that too when they only have hold in Liyari. Wait till they have hold on more areas.
I just wish somehow we can wipe all of them at once. someone invite them all on next year's Iftar and for once Taliban do a good-suicide-bombing....
Sharif has little stake in Karachi. No wonder he is all deaf ear on Karachi situation other than giving a bayaan here, giving a bayaan there.
Any party that has stake and manpower in Karachi, is involved in Ghunda-Gardi one way or another and yes I agree to you that MQM is run differently from other main stream parties. Its run like a mafia. There are not 2 question about it. Main disagreement is on the point that 'MQM being ghunda party' does not make other parties Farishta. Other parties are not lacking will to go on rampage they are just lacking the forece that MQM has in Karachi.
(sachaydino, can i quote TLK? will that make me his secretary?)
As TLK said, everyone is using Karachi as prostitute. No one want to have a long term relationship with it. They just want to fulfill their desire.
What you are saying now is quite reasonable and balanced comments. I agree with you here 100%. But it is the responsibility of mqm to behave like political party not like killers mafia. MQM ruling rather I would say ruining Karachi for the last more than two decades has to share major responsibility for making the once most beautiful and peaceful city, thriving economic hub into a prostitue. It should think strategy and act accordingly to change its image of terrorists mafia to a reasonable political party.
ANP/PPP dont do** bad things** they KILL people, .
No they don't. They are main stream parties. Their reputation have never been like mqm terrorists mafia. However individuals grieved persons might be involved. But it is their independent action not like cumulative target killings by mqm. Even people involved have been arrested in so called operation. Tell me how many mqm killers have been arrested?
Sachaydino and Realdeal , you guys wont take our words and still arguing and stating that ' killing by other parties are done in defence and revenge ' ..
So let us hear what quran says about on which as Muslims we all believe .. It says :
.*whosoever killeth a human being... it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind..." 5:32
*so whether it is MQM , ANP or PPP - they all are same ... when they kill innocent people !
Sachaydino and Realdeal , you guys wont take our words and still arguing and stating that ' killing by other parties are done in defence and revenge ' ..
So let us hear what quran says about on which as Muslims we all believe .. It says :
.*whosoever killeth a human being... it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind..." 5:32
*so whether it is MQM , ANP or PPP - they all are same ... when they kill innocent people !
I agree with you, and Sachinydo's post just before yours, #125.
Sachaydino and Realdeal , you guys wont take our words and still arguing and stating that ' killing by other parties are done in defence and revenge ' ..
So let us hear what quran says about on which as Muslims we all believe .. It says :
.*whosoever killeth a human being... it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind..." 5:32
*so whether it is MQM , ANP or PPP - they all are same ... when they kill innocent people !
No one is denying that, killing of innocent people is most henious crime. But reaction of those affected by mqm killers are individual action. Me or RD condemned this already. Read again the article by Ayaz Amir. We are the massengers what and why happened in recent past weeks. Don't shoot the massengers:)
Again I am not saying that people in aman committee are frishta. But this thread is for your Don, start a new thread on bhatta and believe me I will contribute a lot.
Again I am not saying that people in aman committee are frishta. But this thread is for your Don, start a new thread on bhatta and believe me I will contribute a lot.
If next time you are willing to call AH my don - then you better do it with your full name and complete address - so I can sue you for personal defamation :)
If next time you are willing to call AH my don - then you better do it with your full name and complete address - so I can sue you for personal defamation :)
and believe me I would love to do that :D
To bhai Don ka peecha chrho na, us ki har baat ko wahi to na samjho aor us ko defend na karo. Lagta hay Aqal Barhi ke Bhains bharhi, dil ko lagi hay. Har baat main chonch larhana band karo phir tumhain kuch nahin sunnana parhaga. aor haan khaali pet ki waja say gases demagh par charh jaati hain oar aadmi ol fol baknay lagta hay. Ja baccha ja kar khana kha.:)
