most of the people say dat if it is pronounced in three different sittings then only its considered valid…so is it true??
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The OP is trying to point out 3 talaqs in 1 sitting vs. 3 talaqs in 3 different sittings… you crazy ppl ![]()
mrs zulfiqar, you would be better off posting your question in the religion forum I think.
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I can move it to R&S forum but according to four sunni school of thoughts, its 3 talaqs whether in one sitting or 2 or 3.
Those who say that its should be in 3 different occasions and no matter how many you give in one sitting, its only on talaq .. are wrong.
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four sunni school of thoughts are wrong. so are you.
Quran has a correct and detailed procedure prescribed in it. If sunni school of thought is ignorant then it is a Ghost school, and you are an obedient student ![]()
You can find dummy’s guide for Talaq proceude in market ; or borrow it from aunty Kulsoom / uncle hidayat who read it like parrot every morning after sunrise, but have no clue about its contents.
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According to our beloved prophet (Sunnah), it has to be in three different occasions. Even if said in anger, Quran says let the wife remain with husband…she should not leave so there remains a chance of getting closer and having RUJU (as Quran mentions Talaq one of most disliked acts).
Talaq under the influence of black magic (jadoo) is invalid even if given 10 times, as Quran mentions Haroot and Maroot followers (sorcerers) who do it to break marriages (this is most common reason). Khala wagera kerti hain mostly… The ones who are in magic know after the storm is over what happened to them. (I am saying it 100% sure after consultations with Saudi and Pakistani muftis)
Read Faiz Ahmed Faiz, Allama Iqbal poetry… Read Zarb-e-Kaleem by Allama Iqbal… It’s about marriage, woman, divorce and Allah’s power over sorcerers.
Muje Sey Pehli Se Mohabat Meray Mehboob Na Mang…Un Ginat Sadiyon Kay tareeq Baheemana Talism (by Faiz).
Aaj Bazar Mei Pa-Ba-Jolan Chalo…Dast Afshan Chalo…Must of Raksan Chalo…(by Faiz)
Khuda Karey Ke Meri Arz-e-Pak per utray woh fasl-e-gul jisay andesha-e-zawal na ho…(by Iqbal).
Aey dil-e-nadan…Hum Kyu Bhataktay Hain…Dasht-o-Sehra Mei…(by Iqbal)
Dasht-e-Tanhai Mei…(Faiz).
READ THESE LYRICS IN FULL OR LISTEN TO GHAZALS. THESE ARE REGARDING SEPARATION AND HUSBAND OF WIFE WITH BLACK MAGIC (SORCERY) AND THE HUSBAND LOOSING EVERYTHING, DIVORCE OCCURING AND THEN GOING AWAY FROM HOME…
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Muslim Ummah, another step closer to becoming united. ![]()
P.S: this is not trolling or an unrelated post. This is how I feel after the replies above.
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Muslims are united like a sweater, dude
They never go berserk alone, they take as many as they can with them
Hum tu doobey hain sanam , tum ko bhi le doobain gey ![]()
wah Mastana Malik Sahab wah ![]()
Madam ne Kia umdagi se Gaya hai, ye nazm Amar kar di hai.
Btw, It meaning in my understanding is entirely different Faiz Sahab is addressing his homeland , his motherland
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In Islam there are 2 kinds/procedures of Talaq,
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As per Teachings of Quran and Sunnah, hence called Talaq-e-Muhammadi
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As per some aalims…that a talaq can be given in one sittings…
people are free to follow, they can either follow what Quran and Sunnah says or they can do what some aalim says… ( doesn’t matter much as in todays world, Quran is last book we ever try to refer for guidance)
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Code_Red, Faiz sahab is mentioning above Love. Good poetry has always two dimensions in it.
For instance, have you studied Zarb-e-Kaleem by Allama Iqbal (about woman) or his other poetry. He had three marriages…his marriage was broken…
Listen to Hur Lehza Hai Momin Ki Naee Aan Naee Shan…Guftar mei Kirdar Mei Allah ke Burhan…
In it he mentions… Yeh Raz kisi ko nahi maloom kay momin… QARI nazar ata hai…Haqeeqat mei hai Quran…It has two dimensions…means a momin can look like a PLAYBOY (KARI)…but in fact he is not…he follows Quran (qahari, ghafari, qudoosi, jabroot are momins characteristics) he may NOT look like with BEARD or SAINT…he has some other poetry which writes about “Masjid kay Imam” in much negative way…(when someone does sorcery on you…they only way to reverse the hex is through Quran and once reversed you are able to see your enemies in worst condition…as the reversal is 3 times more forceful)
Hamsaya-e-Jibreel-e-Ameen Bandaey Khaki…Hai Iska Nasheeman na Bukhara na Badakshan (Bukhara was center of universities…and Badakshan center of business/trading/money) But momins level is above that…
Read Zarb-e-Kaleem… Iqbal saw what your enemy can show you with sorcery… Khuda karey ke meri aarz e pak per utray woh fasl e gul jisay andesha e zawal na ho… READ IT IN FULL TILL END… Main bulbul-e-nalan hun ik ujray gulistan ka…Mohtaj ko data dey…
He then got dishearted with Western fraternity and settled back in Pakistan…went towards TASAWUF (Islamic)…Justice Javed Iqbal was born from his 2nd wife…
I have personally experienced all this.
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mrz zulfi
kin chakron mein parr gayi hain aap.
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agree with Tlk
or jo log baat kertay hain quraan ko samjhnay ki …or sunni school of thoughts ko ghalat kehtay hain
…un k ley yehe jawab kaafe hay k baghair kisi terjummay /translation k app zara quraan ki tafseer or terjuma ker k bataain …
bismillah hirah man-e-raheem ka terjuma foran kaheen gay ..shuroo kerta hoon Allah ka naam say
halankay …shuroo kerta hoon ka terjuma kahan say aya ..yeh inhoon nay kabhi khud bhi nahi soocha ho ga
teeen talaq teen hain khuah ik majlis main ho ya alag alag …isee bat per sahaba ka or phir aaima-e-arba ka ijmma hai
or ijmma ka saboot quran main sorah Nissa ki ayat say saabit hai …
or Muhammad salal Allaho alyhi wasalam nay fermya ..mere ummat kabhi gummrahe per jamma nahi ho saktee
or fermaya mere sunnat ko thaamo or khulaf-e-rashdeen ki sunnat
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hazrat ummr(ra) khlaeefa-e-saani …kay dor main is baat per ijjmma ho chuka tha k ab jis mard nay bhi 3 talaaq deen khuah ik hee waqt main kaha to taalaaq waqiya ho jayee gee ..or jis majlis main yeh faisla hoa us waqt taqreeban tmam siqaah sahaba mojood thay or kissi nay hazrat ummer say ikhtilaaf na kia
A talaq is not a gibberish word of mouth. It is a procedure described in detail in quran.
One talaq can only complete after a stipulated period of iddat is observed. Which can be between months to 9 months long. A talaq is not complete without it, period. It is clearly written in holy quran
I have explained it dozens of time in detail here.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/288959-talak-ho-chuki-ho-n-pata-n-chule.html
go and read the procedure or consult quran.
^app nay khud is baat ko quraan say samjha hay ? sirf itna bata ain quraan ki ayaat ki tafseer kernay k kitnay asool hain ..chalain kam say kam 5 asool hee bata dain …
main khud talaaq yaafta lerke hoon or mujhay isee terah ik hee waqt main teen talaaq dee gaye theen
pakistan kay 3 baray madaaris say isee faislay per fatwa hasil hoa hai mujhay !
is maslay per dalaail bilkul waaziah or mazboot hain …quran say bhi hadees say bhi sahaba kay asaar say bhi or aaima arba or deegar mufassareen muhadseen say !
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Interesting ! ![]()
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PG: Jazakallah for the detailed reply.
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Jee bilkul khud samjha hai , our mut’adid baar apni na samjhi ki tas’eeh ki hia
( I can not write in urdu here as many people can not understand roman urdu, otherwise i can write a complete novel in urdu its not a problem for me )
P_G Your case is not any different from 100s of other cases. Three talaq in one sitting is common practice in pakistan, Because people consult Madaris get fatwa and throw holy quran and Sunnah of prophet (pbuh) out of window.
Now read carefully and answer my question :
P_G
If a girl is divorced once ( 1 talaq di gaye hai) can she marry some other person next day ?
( agar ek larki ko ek talaq hoi hai , kia wo agley din kisi our aadmi se nikah kar sakti hai ? keyon ?)
Answer my question in your own words. Thanks
I totally agree with you malik sahab :k:
Poetry never has single meaning. It has various dimensions.
There might be personal touch here and there but mostly the poetry addresses public. We can only understand their personal grief if we have read their biography. You seems to be quite in touch with it ![]()
But again No one has sung them better than madam noor jahan
har lehza hai momin…
Mujh se pehli si mohabat
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CR nice answer…
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thanks for sharing CR…so nice of u ![]()
I would like to share these two as well…the first one is about rich girls marrying salaried guys (army men) and then asking back their money (also mentions Ghazi ilm-ud-din shaheed)…the second one is about taqdeer…(like Faiz said Tu Jo Mil Jaey Toa Taqdeer Nigoon Ho Jaey)…and also said (Aaj Bazar Mei Pa-Ba-Jolan Chalo…Phir Hum he Qatel ho aaeen yaro, chalo) (its about being cursed by enemies when in love)…two dimensions…love for country and Ishq-e-Majazi.
yeah four sunni school of thoughts are wrong and you are right… good one
and in another thread you were saying you want to become a jew, here you claim that you understand quran. How can we understand Quran when we do not understand those and dont want to listen to them via whom ALLAH SWT made Quran available for us, and they are Sahaba (RA), Tabaeen, Taba-Tabaeen, Aima karam (RA)…