tallaq in islam

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Jee bilkul khud samjha hai , our mut'adid baar apni na samjhi ki tas'eeh ki hia

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sahee app nay khud samjha to app mujhay sirf itna bata dain k is ayat ki tafseer kertay waqt app nay kin asool o qawaaid ko mad-e-nazar rakha....

or plz ab third time mere is bat ko ignore na karain ..yeh koi baat nahi kay saare post main say sirf apnee pasand kay hissay ka jawab dain or baqee ko hazam ker jaain : )

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( I can not write in urdu here as many people can not understand roman urdu, otherwise i can write a complete novel in urdu its not a problem for me )

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app ki urdu daani say main waqif hoon ...mujhay is per koi shaak nahi kay ik nahi kayee novel likh saktay hain ...pata nahi app nay yeh wazaahat kio kee !

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P_G Your case is not any different from 100s of other cases. Three talaq in one sitting is common practice in pakistan, Because people consult Madaris get fatwa and throw holy quran and Sunnah of prophet (pbuh) out of window.

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nahi mera case jo tha woh mujhay maloom hay ...app nay suna or perha ho ga ..lakin is main kin maraahil say guzarna hota ..or sirf or sirf ik Allah ki aatat or imaan ki hifaazat k ley app ko kitnee muhabbatoon say moun morna hota hai ...app nahi samjh saktay

fatwa koi mazaaq nahi hota ...baqqida quran or hadees k dalail day ker sawaal poochnay walay ko bataya jata hai ... quran or hadees ko agar khirkee say baahir phaynkna hota to kabhi madarsay ka rukh nahi kertay ..apnay nafs ki baat maantay or mazay say duniya ki lazzatoon say sayraab ho rahay hotay

behrhaal yeh hamara muzoo nahi ..mera batanay ka maqsad yeh tha k is maslay per maain zaatee tor par kis had tak involve hoon is ley kaha !

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Now read carefully and answer my question :

P_G

If a girl is divorced once ( 1 talaq di gaye hai) can she marry some other person next day ?

( agar ek larki ko ek talaq hoi hai , kia wo agley din kisi our aadmi se nikah kar sakti hai ? keyon ?)

Answer my question in your own words. Thanks

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main jawaab day rahe hoon ..lakin app bhi imaandaare say perh'eye ga ....sirf yeh sooch ker k her haal main mujhay raad kerna hai ..us aynaak ko utaar ker ...sirf yeh maqsad k halal or haraam ko jaanna hai is niyat ko mustahzar ker k perheye ga

yeh hay app ka sawaal

*If a girl is divorced once ( 1 talaq di gaye hai) can she marry some other person next day *

bilkul woh lerki aglay din kia talaq milnay kay dosray lamhay hee kaheen bhi shadi ker saktee hai** bashart yeh k us ka sirf nikaah hoa ho ...Rukhsatee na hoye ho ( shohar k sath khalwat na hasil ki ho )**

*aysee lerki jis ki shohar say khalwat na payee gaye ho to talaq ki soorat main us per per iddat ka hukam nahi lagta ..or owh jub chahay nikaah-e-saani ker lay *

taham

agar lerki ka nikaah or shohar say khalwat payee gayee to ab woh is ik talaaq k bad iddat guzaray gee ...

filhaal main yaheen tak tasfeel likhtee hoon ..baqee is sawal say kia daleel pakar rahay hain yeh waazih ker dain !

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Yes, 1 talaq for 1 iddah period. During iddah, both can reconcile and after iddah both can remarry if it was not third talaq.
Source: Sorah Baqarah 2:230-232

Sorah Talaq.

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You are absolutely right SJ. It is Sunnah too.

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To understand verses of quran I keep my eyes and mind open and present myself for correction all the time and seek opinions of learned people. This is a the core principle nothing else.

I hope i answered your quesiton :flower1:

Your answer is right but the topic under discussion is divorce between husband and wife who have lived together.

It is also my understanding derived from verse 227-228 of Chapter 2 of holy quran. Where the procedure of divorce starts

( MIND YOU this is only my understanding not translation. Where ever you feel i am wrong slap it back on my face and correct me. I will accept it )

When one talaq is announced, Woman you must Observe iddat which should be three periods. If you are pregnant then do not hide it, your period of iddat would end after delivery.

P_G !

You said that iddat should be observed after first divorce. Is there any posiblity that iddat can be skipped if a married woman ( who lived with her husband ) is divorced one time ( ek hi talaq hoi hai ) ? give reference , souce link , verse number of holy quran

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Iddat for a Muslim woman who’s husband was a Kafir is one month.

Iddat for a Muslim woman who was wife of Muslim husband is 3 months (if she moved to his house)

There is NO Iddat for a Muslim woman who was wife of Muslim husband but she did not move to his house.

Source:The ‘iddah of a woman divorced by talaaq](“http://learnislam.freeforums.org/the-iddah-of-a-woman-divorced-by-talaaq-t67.html#p154”)

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According to Quran and Sunnah a girl should stay with her husband so there are chances of reconciliation and RUJU......

Girls mother makes big mistake when jumping in and bringing her back home......(rolla daal ker)

In old days.....to get daughters settled parents used to say "your janaza will go from your husbands house"......there is nothing back home. Even in my own family there was a case when girl asked husband she don't want to live, took her bags and went to mother. In turn her parents threw the bags back in car and forced her to get back to husband, otherwise they won't see her faces again....

Getting divorce, marrying again, again getting divorce, getting custody of kids, etc etc.......NOT WISE DECISION (unless husband is very very very bad)

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Iddat for a Muslim woman who’s husband was a Kafir is one month.

Iddat for a Muslim woman who was wife of Muslim husband is 3 months (if she moved to his house)

There is NO Iddat for a Muslim woman who was wife of Muslim husband but she did not move to his house.

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Thanks for the answer. The iddat period is never exact. It varies according to situations as per your details in your link.

The answer of my question that Can iddat after first announcement of divorce (between man and woman living together) can be skipped ? The answer is NO. Never !

It is law of Talaq prescribed in quran that the procedure of Talaq (divorce ) is complete after passing the time for iddat. So this concludes the arguement. If first divorce is not complete then 2nd can not take place. The end.](“http://learnislam.freeforums.org/the-iddah-of-a-woman-divorced-by-talaaq-t67.html#p154”)

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Right.

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here are few point where we should focus more :

1 ) All four school of thought (Ahl-e-sunnat ) specially fiqah-e-hanfia consider this pronouncement a Bid’dah ( innovation) Not Sunnah.

2 ) All school of thought consider this act a mockery of holy quran. Blashphamy in other words. Yet they allow it

  1. With all the explaination and reference from holy quran It is clear that Talaq is a procedure. It does not colmplete without iddat. So 2nd, 3rd announcemnts in one go does not hold any worth. If you agree then state here that you corrected your POV on this issue. If you do not agree then state the reasons. Thanks

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Divorce is not a decree, it is a procedure.

Talaq ek fatwa nahi , ye ek Zabta-e-Aml hai. Jisko quran main wazahat ke saath beyaan kia gaya hai. Teen Talaqain ek saath deney ki misaal aisey hi hai jaisey Aap Taway per rotiyaan pakana shorow karteen hain our garam tawaye per pehli roti daali jaye our isko palta kar saath hi doosri roti uskey ooper daal di jaye. Phir chand lamhoon baad teesri roti bhi inhi do roteyoon ke ouper daal kar inhain thori der baad hi utaar leya jaye our kaha jaye ke ye roti pakaney ka tareeqa bilkul darust hai :slight_smile:

Jin Sahab ne aap key samney in teen alfaz ko yakey baad degrey ada kia hia unko Pakistan ke hudoor ordinance ki ro se quran ki be-adbi ki waja se 14 saal qaid ba mushakat honi chaheye. Jaisey in mohtarma ko hoi

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/04-lhc-zaibunnisa-freed-qs-07

Our aapko har saal ek din in key leye ek roti bilkul aisey hi paka kar lejaani chaheye jaisey mian ne ooper beyaan ki. Saath main inko samjhana chaheye ke. Aainda aisey quran ki be-hurmati mat kejeye ga.

Agar meri batain aapko buri lagi hoon tu mujhey maaf mat kejeye ga ! Sirf bataye kahan haazir hona hia. Banda us jaga pohanch jaiga our Aap wahaan pohanch kar ek Zannatey daar Thappar merey gaal par mareye ga. Tab mujhey ehsaas hoga ke baat kaisey ki jaati hia .:frowning: …

Our phir ..

Zindagi bhar nahi bhooley gi wo barsaat ki raat :sleep:

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Agreed.

I remember once you were Moderator of this section.

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3 talaqs in one sitting just does not make sense...
if a husband and wife have copulated then when a tallaq is pronounced, there is an iddah period (a period for one talaq).....and if the husband and wife dont reconcile after this iddah period their nikkah is void and therefore the question of a second(or third talaq) does not arrive, since they no longer are married....

and if you say that iddah period is not necessary then after the first talaq their marriage's over, so on what basis(nikkah?) is the second and third talaq given??

the only time when iddah's not necessary is when the husband has not touched his wife....

WallahuAlam

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Thanks for agreement. I was waiting for disagreement anxiously. Well; it seems in hibernation i guess :hmmm:

You remember rightly; before that I was a life guard at heaven’s virgin Island beaches.
I was kicked out due to exessive cumpulsive disorder.

Another interesting phenomena :

There are three ( 3 ) religion in the world with following of more or less than a billion alive follower, on this date.

These all three religons have sacred books.

2 out of 3 religions have no defined procedure for divorce mentioned in their scriptures.

There is only one religion which has one devine sacred book in which there is proper documented procedure for Divorce. It adresses all concens of all parties involved and does justice with them giving them ample time margin for reconciliation.

There is no better defined, documented procedure in any book of law in any religion of this world. Period

The follower of this religion made a mockery of this beautiful procedure.