Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
Read post #29.
That post could be of interest to moderators, not me.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
Read post #29.
That post could be of interest to moderators, not me.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
No I am not shocked. I never expected anything better from you.
** I really don't know how much you genuinely hate Taliban**, but one thing is for sure, you carry some industrial strength hate for Imran and use Taliban as a pretext to make bigoted remarks against him. It's beyond obvious. You do you even know what ‘alliance’ really means? Prove it that Imran or PTI has any links with Taliban or any other banned violent organisation or they have their own military wing like some other party? Thank God you are not really an important person, otherwise your sorry self would’ve been smacked for millions of dollar worth lawsuits for making such damaging and totally baseless accusations against a political party. In fact it would be nice if PTI start doing this.
The fact that you want him killed over a difference of political opinion or for having a particular speech style suggest people like you are no better than Taliban! The phrase two sides of the same coin ring some loud bells.
Hatred, intolerance and passion for violence and death comes in all shapes and sizes. Your posts are always quite good at making this point.
I can't believe anyone could ask a question like this. How can anyone not GENUINELY hate Taliban? Are you in your mind?
Those are the murderers who have killed THOUSANDS of Pakistanis. They can kill anyone of us for any reason at any time. And yet you have audacity to ask IF anyone hate Taliban GENUINELY?
Just answer me this. What is required in your opinion to hate Talibane genuinely? If you can't answer it then ask Taliban Niazi. But I am sure he won't be able to give you answer. How he could ever hate his "brothers"?
And it is enough in my eyes to call him Taliban ally when it is he who never condemns them by name no matter what atrocity those morons commit. He is one of those who confuse common Pakistanis so as they don't unite against Taliban extremists and we continue to lose our children and brothers. He is responsible for every killing done by extremists no matter how holy he pretend by giving lip service against "those who committed the crimes".
Just to clarify. It is not just Imran I am against. It is also other Taliban allies like Shahbaz Sharif, Rana Sanaullah, JUI, JI and other morons. It is not just the "difference of opinion" we are talking about here. It is the lives of thousands of innocent people which is at stake due to these Taliban spokesmen amidst us.
Those who can't hate Taliban and have no courage to call them terrorists are the ones sharing responsibility for killing of every Pakistani man, woman, and child who is murdered by them.
I think Faiz had Taliban allies like Imran, Shahbaz and others in mind when he said this:
jo zulm pe laanat na karay aap laeen he
jo jabr ka munkir nahin wo munkir e deen he
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
Your post stinks of extreme depth moral bankruptcy and total lack basic human decency and rationale. The fact you in your blind violent hatred wished that may the Taliban kill Imran because Your Highness doesn’t like how his condemnation fails to please your ego, is akin to those animals who kill innocent people and target politicians because they don’t like what they say. I fail to see what really makes you think people with your mindset are any different from Taliban. At the end of the day, you both want people to be killed over difference of opinion. Right?
It’s no wonder I had to ask whether you genuinely hate Taliban as your posts simply shout hatred and spit venom for Imran. Just imagine had someone said something remotely along those lines about your great Qaide Altaf Hussain, you’d have been wailing and crying blue murder and accusing everyone under the sun from having ethnic bias to misanthropy.
Honestly, people like you make me thank God I was born in a civilised country. It’s about time you actually educate yourself on the true meaning and implication of fancy terms like ‘alliance’ and ‘ally’. Just randomly throwing these words in every post doesn’t add a hint of truth in your baseless accusation. It just makes it look like you don’t know what onyou are talking about.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
What a bloody ‘lovely’ thread .. * uptight *british accent *
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Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
http://images.geo.tv/updates_pics/ImranKhan_1-15-2014_134270_l.jpg
Parties supporting Taliban talks backtracked: Imran Khan
PM also asked Talban Khan , Tallban Hasan &Talban Haq to talk with Taliban Kuffar today
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
None can stop these people from doing what they are doing. Last year when Imran visited the Hazaras after a lethal attack on them, since then they have been spared by taleban & co! (no major attacks - although a bus of zaireen was fired on recently). In the video Imran is praising the boy only but does not see to be condemning the perpetrators. As long as these people have endorsement from Ulemahaq they are not going to stop.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
APCs are a coward way out. Parliament should be the forum to legislate laws and discuss issues related to Pakistan, not even Presidency should be used to solely govern Pakistan with ordinances.
I don't know if the news was posted here, but each parliamentarian makes around $800,000 (that is before tax evasion etc) in Pakistan, which is double the salary of Obama, so forget about what congressmen and women make in the US. I don't know from where we get such money, unless the "aid" and IMF "loans" (err "aid" again) are paying for it.
Truth be told, imran hasn't said anything about that either. In fact, PTI was upset that not enough security was provided to the party chief in his lahore residence.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
That post could be of interest to moderators, not me.
It was typo mistake. Read post # 28. And please don't waste your 'precious' time in replying to this post.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
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Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
This has to be the most confused government in our recent times. The lower rung of leaders keep on mocking Imran khans stance on terrorism where as the interior and prime minister keep on saying the same things. This is why I believe Imran should keep quiet, let the government make the choices and feel the consequences.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
There is no Miandad in PTI, so the akhrot would keep on yapping and bail out the ‘shareef’ brigade over and over. Perhaps the niralas here should clue their leadership in ? ![]()
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
No word about Taliban Gillani?
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
Nawaz advocates testing dialogue option with Taliban - DAWN.COM
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif Thursday said the option of dialogue with Taliban should not be given up untested as it could prove the best strategy to resolve the prevailing situation.
“Several countries have resolved their grave issues through dialogue. It can prove as the best option if other side also shows positive gesture,” he said in an interview with a private television channel.
The premier said the dialogue process had been heading fast but it came to a standstill following a drone attack killing Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.
He said drone attacks must not be carried out on Pakistan’s soil as these breached the country’s sovereignty. But why the drone attack was made at that time when the dialogue process was moving forward, he questioned.
The prime ministers said the government would try to reestablish the contacts with Taliban and would devise strategy as how to make any breakthrough in this regard.
To another question, Nawaz Sharif said he would contact the political leadership of the country to help carry forward dialogue process with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).
“I will talk to Imran Khan, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, Maulana Samiul Haq and Syed Munawar Hassan. If they make any breakthrough, it would be a great pleasure for me. Hopefully, this will help the process move forward speedily and effectively.”
Agreeing with the TV anchor’s suggestion for engaging other political leaders in the talks process, the prime minister said he already had such a strategy in his mind and would ask these leaders to extend cooperation.
He said the participation of then army chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and the ISI chief in the All Parties Conference, proved that the army was not separate from the nation. They had also endorsed the APC decisions, he added.
Sharif said the military had left the issue to be resolved by the political and national leadership of the country, “and even today they (military) stick to their stance.”
Now it was the responsibility of the national leadership to move forward in unison, he added.
To a question, he said realising the sense of insecurity among the people of Swat, it has been decided to establish a cantonment in the area to ensure presence of security forces there.
Regarding his Swat visit, he said the main objective was to launch the Youth Business Loan Scheme there.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
No word about Taliban Gillani?
After they saw his flat performance at the white house, even Taliban took their maazrat from Gillani.. :D
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
No I am not shocked. I never expected anything better from you.
I really don't know how much you genuinely hate Taliban, but one thing is for sure, you carry some industrial strength hate for Imran and use Taliban as a pretext to make bigoted remarks against him. It's beyond obvious. You do you even know what ‘alliance’ really means? Prove it that Imran or PTI has any links with Taliban or any other banned violent organisation or they have their own military wing like some other party? Thank God you are not really an important person, otherwise your sorry self would’ve been smacked for millions of dollar worth lawsuits for making such damaging and totally baseless accusations against a political party. In fact it would be nice if PTI start doing this.
The fact that you want him killed over a difference of political opinion or for having a particular speech style suggest people like you are no better than Taliban! The phrase two sides of the same coin ring some loud bells.
Hatred, intolerance and passion for violence and death comes in all shapes and sizes. Your posts are always quite good at making this point.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this post. Your unabashed self-righteousness is astonishing. I don't know how you do that.
What is not shocking is your abusive language and attitude of getting personal. Because that is an identifying trait of a blind PTI supporter.
You ask me if I my hatred of Taliban is GENUINE?! You are asking this from a person who has lost family members at the hands of extremists. Just yesterday one of our family member who was a doctor was murdered in his clinic. But nothing can convince a shameless ImranTalibani's bot.
When a person from someone's family is murdered then the family wants nothing but JUSTICE. Justice by punishing perpetrators of that murder. Yet likes of Imran Talibani, Ch Nisar, and others; after condemning the murder; suggest us to go TALK to the murderers! That is justice?!
This attitude of appeasment of murderes make them Taliban allies. And these Taliban allies thus share the blame for killings of every person done by these extremists.
So if you are twisting in your pants then do it for the right reason. Do it against cowards responsible for appeasing the terrorists instead of confronting them.
But obviously people like you are majority in Pakistan. And this is why I see no hope for Pakistan in foreseeable future. People like you have no concern for those thousands of people who have been killed by the coward demagogues you follow.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government’s top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
I want to ask him WHICH country has resolved the fasadi extremism problem through dialog. Any name, Mian?
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
This has to be the most confused government in our recent times. The lower rung of leaders keep on mocking Imran khans stance on terrorism where as the interior and prime minister keep on saying the same things. This is why I believe Imran should keep quiet, let the government make the choices and feel the consequences.
True that PMLN and PTI are one and the same when it comes to Taliban support.
But I think instead of staying quiet, Imran should continue to talk his mind so that some of Imran's followers could see his ugly mind. If he keeps quiet then people will be fooled in supporting him. They would think that he is better than PMLN when it comes to extremism, and that would be a lie.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this post. Your unabashed self-righteousness is astonishing. I don't know how you do that. What is not shocking is your abusive language and attitude of getting personal. Because that is an identifying trait of a blind PTI supporter.
You ask me if I my hatred of Taliban is GENUINE?! You are asking this from a person who has lost family members at the hands of extremists. Just yesterday one of our family member who was a doctor was murdered in his clinic. But nothing can convince a shameless ImranTalibani's bot.
When a person from someone's family is murdered then the family wants nothing but JUSTICE. Justice by punishing perpetrators of that murder. Yet likes of Imran Talibani, Ch Nisar, and others; after condemning the murder; suggest us to go TALK to the murderers! That is justice?!
This attitude of appeasment of murderes make them Taliban allies. And these Taliban allies thus share the blame for killings of every person done by these extremists.
So if you are twisting in your pants then do it for the right reason. Do it against cowards responsible for appeasing the terrorists instead of confronting them.
But obviously people like you are majority in Pakistan. And this is why I see no hope for Pakistan in foreseeable future. People like you have no concern for those thousands of people who have been killed by the coward demagogues you follow.
Unfortunate to hear about the tragic death of your family member, my condolences are with you.
Wouldn’t be a wild guess to assume that the murder must’ve taken place in Karachi, yet you have no words to spare about MQM who have been power since last 10 years, ‘condemned’ Taliban yet what have they achieved? Imran or Ch Nisar don’t run Karachi, they never had nor probably will so what’s MQM’s excuse for not keeping Karachi safe and peaceful? Do you have any answer to this? Over an year ago, Imran was a political nobody in the country yet suddenly some twisted racists individuals woke one day and thought lets blame blame Imran from world hunger to creation of Taliban.
You are a shameless hypocrite, next time don’t even bother crying about ‘personal attack’ and ‘abusive language’ when your own posts are no better and in fact so full of those same things you accuse others of. Stop this pretentious crap, get over your holier than thou attitude. My posts are as good as the messages I reply to.
You want Pakistan to become another Syria and I bet this is what justice really looks like to you. You are so blinded by emotions that I really don’t think anyone should take your views on such complex and political matters seriously. Other than posting bigoted remarks against Imran, wishing him death, you have have yet to make any remotely interesting posts that actually talks about ideas, solutions and ways to fight this war. All your posts consist of same old, terribly outdated intuitive responses that hold no real practical meaning any more or add anything to the discussions. I don’t how you have the audacity to preach others, you yourself is an extremist. The fact that you have zero tolerance for different opinions, posses no intellect to weighs the pros and cons of both military operations and negotiations, cannot rationalise the current geo-political situation, cannot identify and understand army’s position on this issue, but carries on with same old blame game.
If you are so concerned about Justice, then go open threads calling for drone attacks in Karachi, ask for full fledged tanks driven operation and aerial bombing of the City. No one is stopping you form doing that, no one is stopping MQM from doing that. If the Taliban are in Karachi then go ahead by all means, ask for FATA style operation and drone attacks. If the operations in Karachi are success, maybe it changes people’s opinion. Let’s see if likes of MQM can tell the rest of the Pakistan what the justice really looks like.
No one really cares if you are a hopeless sod, no one is asking you to have any hope in Pakistan. Pakistan will still be there even if people like would stop caring.
I don’t care what any two penny desperate poster calls me. I have read enough war history and studied enough great battles from such a young age to know the real peace is always achieved and maintained through politics and diplomacy. I am proud to call myself a committed pacifist, but of course I do feel sorry for people like you who know nothing other than war.
If you are grieving, I should probably just ignore your posts. You are obviously not in the right state of mind to make a rational political debate.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
True that PMLN and PTI are one and the same when it comes to Taliban support. But I think instead of staying quiet, Imran should continue to talk his mind so that some of Imran's followers could see his ugly mind. If he keeps quiet then people will be fooled in supporting him. They would think that he is better than PMLN when it comes to extremism, and that would be a lie.
Even if they see his ugly mind, still there's no other option available, at the most they'll become neutral.
Re: Talks with Taliban are government's top priority, says Chaudhry Nisar
yet you have no words to spare about MQM who have been power since last 10 years, ‘condemned’ Taliban yet what have they achieved? Imran or Ch Nisar don’t run Karachi, they never had nor probably will so what’s MQM’s excuse for not keeping Karachi safe and peaceful?
MQM is in power for almost three decades. This is the first time in a very long time that they are not part of the government.
MQM has played an indirect role for strengthening taleban in Karachi. They started killing poor pashtun labourers in late 2007/2008 and then fought off ANP. The resultant vacuum was filled up by taleban. Now they can go cry foul.