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Good points but not relevant. The point is simple. The americans went in to destory the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Now they are making peace with the men that kill Americans on a daily basis. What does that prove?
'That proves that taliban r not their enemy..... blah ........blah
And us has finshed their mission of getting their a@@ kicked by taliban
Nurturing and helping Al-Qaeda is no more sin and yet taliban haven't severed their ties with AQ
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Ah! If you can't beat em join em... Very impressive indeed...
Now lets have the spin please... :)
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Masla ye hay America Kambal chorna cha raha hay magar Kambal america ko nahi chorr raha. 
America just want to make ground to run from afghanistan, and make inroads in pakistan using the name of alqaedah.
See how taliban respond to this. Taliban have not stopped their offensive against america.
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Mullah Omar was never on FBI list
From the Newspaper | Back Page |
(1 hour ago) Today
WASHINGTON: The US capital was abuzz with claims and counter-claims since Tuesday morning that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has removed the name of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar from its list of ‘most wanted terrorists’.
The report, attributed to unidentified officials but not backed by reliable sources, claimed that the US decision to remove his name from the list reflected Washington`s desire to improve ties with the Taliban insurgents.
Last week, US officials confirmed that they had held talks recently with Taliban representatives in Qatar and Germany.
The US also supported a move to open a Taliban political office in Qatar, which will serve as an outpost for the outlawed insurgent movement.
Mullah Omar, the founder of the Taliban movement, has been in hiding since the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan toppled his regime.
US officials earlier claimed that he was one of the original planners of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States.
The US invaded Afghanistan to end the Taliban rule because of its alleged link to Al Qaeda, whose chief Osama bin Laden masterminded the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden was killed in a US raid on his compound in Abbottabad on May 2.
Since last month, however, US officials have begun dis-tancing the Taliban from Al Qaeda, saying that they invaded Afghanistan to fight Al Qaeda extremists and not the Taliban.
Although the claim that Mullah Omar has been removed from FBI`s most wanted list has not been denied by US officials, a respectable US news magazine, The Atlantic, pointed out in a post on its site that the Taliban leader was never on this list.
FBI spokesman Paul Bresson, when asked to comment on the claimed, confirmed to various US media outlets that Mullah Omar was never on the list.
But he stays on a State Department list of foreign terrorists, which also offers cash reward for his capture.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/28/mullah-omar-was-never-on-fbi-list.html
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Mullah omer name was on the wanted list
http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/index.cfm?page=Wanted_Terrorist&language=english
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the american/nato terrorists and their apologist minions all out to defend themselves... on a news and bulletin board offensive, that is.
the "real terrorists" on the other hand seem to be giving them a good run to their money, and trying harder not to let them get away in one piece.
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Americans are losing interest (and money) in Afghanistan. There is no point spending time and effort in a place which is not as much a threat to the US anymore as it used to be. After destruction of Qaeda in Afghanistan and killing of Osama, there is not much America there wants at this moment.
About failure. If they can find out about Osama then they can find him out as well. Osama was a bigger fish to fry. Taking his name out is just a matter of priorities.
Not quite, they are losing the war in Afghanistan and now want to cut and run, hence suddenly Omar is no longer a "threat"
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Not quite, they are losing the war in Afghanistan and now want to cut and run, hence suddenly Omar is no longer a "threat"
what would winning the war in afghanistan be, in your opinion?
the only reason to be there was to destroy al-qaeda which also meant dismantling the taliban government that was safeguarding it. since then, al-qaeda has been chased out of the country, OBL was found and killed, and the taliban were thrown out of power. what else is required to not be "losing the war"?
the goal posts of nation-building and stable democracy were set by the bush administration. obama is resetting those goal posts to reflect the actual objectives. those objectives have all been achieved.
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what would winning the war in afghanistan be, in your opinion?
the only reason to be there was to destroy al-qaeda which also meant dismantling the taliban government that was safeguarding it. since then, al-qaeda has been chased out of the country, OBL was found and killed, and the taliban were thrown out of power. what else is required to not be "losing the war"?
the goal posts of nation-building and stable democracy were set by the bush administration. obama is resetting those goal posts to reflect the actual objectives. those objectives have all been achieved.
So according to you there is no war going on in Afghanistan. There was me thinking there is a war going on. Wonder what NATO army is doing in such a peaceful country. Thanks for letting me know. All those generals who recently have been saying that war is not winnable in Afghanistan obviously dont know what they are talking about.
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So according to you there is no war going on in Afghanistan. There was me thinking there is a war going on. Wonder what NATO army is doing in such a peaceful country. Thanks for letting me know. All those generals who recently have been saying that war is not winnable in Afghanistan obviously dont know what they are talking about.
that entirely depends on the definition of victory. many americans including the military have an extremely lofty fantasy as the definition of victory and hold themselves to that standard.
i am asking you what your definition of victory is. more specifically, how is it different from the objectives i detailed previously (which are already mostly achieved)?
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ok us won in afghanistan there is no more Al-qaeda to attack americans now they should relax airport securities and screening of foreign nationals arriving in us:D
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ok us won in afghanistan there is no more Al-qaeda to attack americans now they should relax airport securities and screening of foreign nationals arriving in us:D
not really... its Africa's turn now... they need to war machine going to support their economy.
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not really... its Africa's turn now... they need to war machine going to support their economy.
U mean North Africa, specially Libya ( oil) and Algeria (gas)
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Krugman is supposed to be a Nobel Prize winning economist. He answers this and your point about Pakistan’s economy going down because of global downturn or Zardari government’s political and economic mismanagement .
See: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/the-defeatism-of-depression/
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that was sarcasm bhaijaan,i was challenging those who r saying us won in afghanistan
not really... its Africa's turn now... they need to war machine going to support their economy.
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Thanks for the link
And that is what i believe as well
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that entirely depends on the definition of victory. many americans including the military have an extremely lofty fantasy as the definition of victory and hold themselves to that standard.
i am asking you what your definition of victory is. more specifically, how is it different from the objectives i detailed previously (which are already mostly achieved)?
Theycame to liberate Afghanistan from Al Qaeda and Taliban. They might have removed Al Qaeda but Taliban is stronger than before, so if that is victory than yes they have had victory. According to US Al Qaeda is now moving into North Africa, so the question still remains that after 10 years of war what have they achieved. The answer is NOTHING, Taliban is still there and so is Al qaeda albeit in different form and in different country.
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if we look at the american propoganda during wa on terror,it was not only against al-qaeda it was also against taliban.
they tried to picturise taliban as brutal force terrorising afghan ppl but now they r calling them friends.....
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In wars strategies change and new ones are adapted as the situation requires. Having said that, I would like to make it clear, that anyone who attacks the United States and its people will be considered “the enemy”. That will never change. Some of us keep forgetting that Al-Qaida had been attacking American interests all over the world long before 9/11 but when they attacked our homeland and killed over 3000 of our citizens and proudly claimed responsibility, we could not sit still. We asked the Taliban who were in power in Afghanistan to hand over Al-Qaida operatives who had made Afghanistan their terror headquarters. When they refused, we attacked them to go after the killers.
Our success in Afghanistan is reflected through the people of Afghanistan who are free to live normal lives. Would you not agree that today Afghans enjoy better quality of live then they did under Taliban? Are their children not free to pursue education that was denied to them under Taliban’s rule? Today Afghans are on the road to success. They hold their destiny in their own hands and this is our victory in Afghanistan. We will be further victorious when the region is totally free of terrorism and people can live their lives in peace and prosperity.
Maj David Nevers
DET-United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil/ur
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An interesting fact I learnt last week is that the Taliban is not actually on the list of organizations that the US legally classifies as terrorist organisations.
Apparently several congressmen have been calling for Twitter to shut down the Twitter accounts used by the Taliban to publicise and celebrate their attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan. Twitter has refused to do so and has stated that because the Taliban is not legally defined as a terrorist organization, there is no legal basis on which they can be forced to shut down the accounts by the government.
