And a bigger shame on you for defending those collaborating with the haters of sahabas and their imam prophet...read up the epithets and hatred the right wing christians of the republican party, which initiated the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and were the paymasters of your hero mush and his military for the grunt work in Pakistan and Afghanistan, have for the very same sahabs you so disengenously defending...
Why are you so obsessed with what the republican party or right wing christians do? Don't worry about them, worry about your own people. Last I checked, there were no such groups in swat or buner when the taliban were killing innocent local people. No one is going to except fake so-called "shariah" of taliban at gun point. It has nothing to do with republicans or war in afghanistan, but just an attempt at grabbing power by the sadisit talibs.
Anybody who calls what happened 1400 years ago an impediment in the advancement of human race can safely be assumed to be anti islam....
Show me where I called what happened 1400 years ago an impediment to anything?
Why are you so obsessed with what the republican party or right wing christians do? Don't worry about them, worry about your own people. Last I checked, there were no such groups in swat or buner when the taliban were killing innocent local people. No one is going to except fake so-called "shariah" of taliban at gun point. It has nothing to do with republicans or war in afghanistan, but just an attempt at grabbing power by the sadisit talibs.
That's because you've borrowed their book of terminologies and they were allies of yours and your pesh imam Musharraf's until Jan 19th, 2009 in the war of terror...
That's because you've borrowed their book of terminologies and they were allies i of yours and your pesh imam Musharraf's until Jan 19th, 2009 in the war of terror...
Yeah, anyways, they're not in buner or swat, so you need to come up with a better defense for talib murderers.
Show me where I called what happened 1400 years ago an impediment to anything?
You've rendered what happened 1400 years ago obsolete since the human race has advanced and moved on since then...
In your exact words:
"No, they're (taliban) fighting against any progress humans have made in the last 1400 years."
So, basically the advancement that humans have made in the ensuing 1400 years engenders superior knowledge to whatever was espoused 1400 years...since this knowledge is superior, it makes the original faulty (1400 years fame), hence invalid, fraudulent and not divine...
And suicide bombings against innocents, fighting against a muslim state is the pinnacle of being a muslim talib as per shreeah of sufi m. That's how it works right? What has the taliban achieved other then killing muslims on a regular basis?
what of the friendly fires and the drone attacks that our govt was helpless to provide security against?
Yeah, anyways, they're not in buner or swat, so you need to come up with a better defense for talib murderers.
The reaction to their handywork is certainly there...if the zionst christians hadn't enabled the zionist neocons to hijack america's foreign policy when Bush took office...there would be no Swat or Buner, nor their local supporters...
The Pakistani Muslims who these kharijis attacked did NOT do any of these. Hence they can NOT be held accountable for ANY excuse these anti-Islam kharijis may have.
This is the first lesson of Islamic justice.
if we are talking of islamic justice we will need a fatwa from respectable source to declare the current talibans as kharjis, hasnt been done so far. if it can be obtained will clear up alot of misunderstandings.
No they're very different actually:
1) The pilots, base commanders are not omitting suicide - an unislamic act.
2) They're not deliberately targeting innocent civilians. But the taliban and other jihadis have a habit of using civilians as human shields.
The simple fact is that the taliban kill because they have gotten use to this lifestyle of killing and no matter what they do, it is considered halal as per shreeah. Their can be no debate with them on what islam actually means as they only consider themselves right and everyone else kuffar. That is the height of jihalaat we are facing today.
Also, tell me where in islam is it ok to mutilate the bodies of your enemy as the taliban routinely do?
bhai it all fun and jollies to talk about what they are doing against islam. if they are as much of a problem then why doesnt the pakistani govt obtain a fatwa agianst them as non muslims? it appears that unfortunately our armed forces are being controlled by external factions and arent exactly securing pakistan with current operations.
You've rendered what happened 1400 years ago obsolete since the human race has advanced and moved on since then...
In your exact words:
"No, they're (taliban) fighting against any progress humans have made in the last 1400 years."
So, basically the advancement that humans have made in the ensuing 1400 years engenders superior knowledge to whatever was espoused 1400 years...since this knowledge is superior, it makes the original faulty (1400 years fame), hence invalid, fraudulent and not divine...
Wow, did you know the computer and the internet through which you are currently communicating through or the bombs and guns which the taliabn love to kill people with were not invented 1400 years ago? By your profound logic, we should not use these tools as they are parts of the advancement made by humans after Islam came and thus invalidate Islam somehow. Is that the story you're going with?
bhai it all fun and jollies to talk about what they are doing against islam. if they are as much of a problem then why doesnt the pakistani govt obtain a fatwa agianst them as non muslims? it appears that unfortunately our armed forces are being controlled by external factions and arent exactly securing pakistan with current operations.
Who out of the mullah brigade will have the guts to issue fatwa against taliban? Either because of fear of taliban attacks or sympathy towards taliban, mullahs may not step up, though just recently sunni tehtreek people held anti-taliban demonstration in islambad. Now just wait as taliban will soon declare sunni tehreek as murtad (if they have not done so already).
The reaction to their handywork is certainly there...if the zionst christians hadn't enabled the zionist neocons to hijack america's foreign policy when Bush took office...there would be no Swat or Buner, nor their local supporters...
So, this is what islam is based on now: reactions? Everything becomes halal as long as it is considered a reaction? These taliban will have to find out the hard way that Allah's law does not work that way.
Re: Taliban besiege 46 Pakistani Muslims in Mingora
^ so may be we should all settle onto zardari being the amir ul momineen then? fat chance mate.the fact that pakistani govt cannot find one respectable alim out of its own awqaf is goign to count against this military approach. that is precisely why the govt doesnt have any credibility with people actually respecting those who are studyign religion.
what of the friendly fires and the drone attacks that our govt was helpless to provide security against?
Why would the govnt protect talib thugs from anything? They are the ones who want to wage war on a neighboring country through pakistan, so they should bear the consequences and stop whining about them.
So, this is what islam is based on now: reactions? Everything becomes halal as long as it is considered a reaction? These taliban will have to find out the hard way that Allah's law does not work that way.
i asked you somewhere before khekeshan the current situation demands to be established what is islamically acceptable, a need to answer what is authentic islamic system, by drilling holes in talibani version and being unable to provide any religious scholar to gain credibility , the argument is shot to hell.
^ so may be we should all settle onto zardari being the amir ul momineen then? fat chance mate.the fact that pakistani govt cannot find one respectable alim out of its own awqaf is goign to count against this military approach. that is precisely why the govt doesnt have any credibility with people actually respecting those who are studyign religion.
What can I say, but mullahs have been corrupted for a while now. Once they see islam, jihad and mujahideen in one sentence, they stop thinking and automatically start supporting all kinds of evil in the name of islam.
Why would the govnt protect talib thugs from anything? They are the ones who want to wage war on a neighboring country through pakistan, so they should bear the consequences and stop whining about them.
actually that was happening way before tahreek e taliban got a rise in pakistan. pakistani govt wasnt providing much of protection against american forces. all these factors , coupled with your lal masjid case create a quagmire.
i asked you somewhere before khekeshan the current situation demands to be established what is islamically acceptable, a need to answer what is authentic islamic system, by drilling holes in talibani version and being unable to provide any religious scholar to gain credibility , the argument is shot to hell.
What is the question that you are asking? I am not the one doing unislamic acts and then trying to create my own version of islamic law to fit all such acts.
What can I say, but mullahs have been corrupted for a while now. Once they see islam, jihad and mujahideen in one sentence, they stop thinking and automatically start supporting all kinds of evil in the name of islam.
oh wow mullahs have been corrupted as opposed to the civil and military regimes in pakistan? quite rich. its only a certain class of people who have jihab phobia, rest of us want to know when we are goin to hear answers from religious sources.
oh wow mullahs have been corrupted as opposed to the civil and military regimes in pakistan? quite rich. its only a certain class of people who have jihab phobia, rest of us want to know when we are goin to hear answers from religious sources.
Why don't you ask religious sources why they can't decide on suicide bombings and mutilating bodies that taliban does? Or do you want me to issue the fatwa?