Tahirul Qadri's long march

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Bohut ache :)

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TuQ is just a fool
All Pakistani politicians have learned a lesson
Never trust on establishment
They never care for your service
Biggest example is MQM Haqiqi

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TUQ is failed now

He thought he will bring inqilab by sitting inside a 40 by 40 container for 5 days and eat Pulao

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There are people on this forum who are with what TUQ is demanding and there are few who do not agree with TUQ demands (probably those whose interest is not well being of Pakistan but loot maar of Pakistan).

All know that, people who contest election, if win the election, they do not just represent their constituency but represent whole country and their being in assembly affects well-being of everyone in the country, so one cannot say that if a constituency elects criminal and thug than that person has right to get into parliament as whatever that person is going to do in assembly does not affect his constituency only but whole country.

I am for what TUQ is demanding (completely neutral care-taker government and very strong election commission … all before care-taker government is set-up) … anyhow, I would change my views (and I believe all would change their views) if those who are against what TUQ is demanding give answer to couple of simple questions after carefully reading the points that is in constitution. (Please do not run away from answering but give logical and convincing answer).

According to constitution:
1: Bank loan defaulters cannot contest election.
2: Person who got his loan written off cannot contest election.
3: Person who is utility bills defaulter cannot contest election.
4: Liar, deceiver and dishonest person cannot contest election.
5: Fraud and immoral person cannot contest election.
6: Person who was ever involved in taking bribe or did 'corruption in past' cannot contest election.
7: Convicted person cannot contest election.
8: Tax-dodger or tax-evade cannot contest election.
9: Thieves, smugglers, and criminals cannot contest election.
10: Murderer, hooligan, and thugs cannot contest election.

And so on (there are many other clauses and conditions that can bar people from contesting election in Pakistan)…

Question 1: Now let us know that if caretaker government and election commission keeps ‘blind eye’ and let people contest election without investigating person’s background (as it is the case at present due to usually partial care-taker government and weak election commission) than:

How a voter would know that person contesting election does not even qualify to contest election (actually, not even worth to represent anyone in parliament)?

Does each and every ‘potential voter’ could access candidates personal details (or even have ability to get into details) or could vote after looking into election contestant’s personal bank accounts, tax return, utility bill payment records, fraud and corruption report, police report, bank report, morality report, crime report, etc?

Question 2: Some idiots (especially thugs of corrupt political parties) on TV and various forums are saying that TUQ is not a stake-holder as he or his party do not have representation in parliament … so what they mean?

TUQ, regardless of his dual nationality, is still voter … so, does these idiots think that only stake-holder in running Pakistan are those who are in parliament or whose political party is in parliament… and all voters are just donkeys who can vote but have no stake in running of the country?

So those who do not agree with what TUQ is doing than please reply intelligently, logically and politely. No B-S ... Thanks

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I just wish NS had the 'vision' to unite all these parties against karachi and shia killings too :)

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I love Tahir ul Qadri :wub:

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The guy doesnt even know what vision means

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NS vision: Nehari, Payea, Chirga, kata-kat, Haleem, Murg-cholay, Hathi-kay Kapooray … and … hmmmmmm lies, deceiving voters, and loot-maar of Pakistan … than transfer of that loot-mar to buy properties in Europe (especially UK).

Well, NS as most Pakistani politicians know the value of ignorant (whom these politicians would like to call … illuminated) and their weight (votes) in Pakistani politics.

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There are different ways to challenge the credibility of every candidate and it starts with submission of nomination papers . It is on bases of each constituency . After submission of nomination papers a time is given to file the objections and in most cases if objection which you put are found , the nomination papers are rejected . if not rejected , there is a time to file a writ against accepting of such papers . So there is a mechanism to object any candidate in the law . Even courts listen the cases after the election too and many have been disqualified after winning . Tax and bank accounts are not yet a part of nomination papers and this should must be included .
TuQ is a different personality , He started his practical life in the hands of Shareef family but he is their enemy whole the life .Reasons are never known . He is known normally for his fake dreams . He is a liar 24 hours a day , It is very shameful because he like to be called as Sheikh ul Islam . Because he left Pakistan without any reason and a reason for that which is locally stated in Lahore is too not good . He has been a MNA of Mush time under same laws and 400 million bogus votes and voted for Jamali of PML Q in 2002 . When this system was ok for him to become a MNA under uniformed one , how can he criticize it now in a better election commission and courts .

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Good carry on
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Ek to sale REHMAN malik ko har baar 1 ja 2 din pehle pata chal jaata he ke waha waha bomb blasts ho ghe :S

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First thing is that ... stop character assassination and keep to what is part of discussion ... else we all know that Zardari, Nawaz, Bilawal, even Bhutto and BeNazir ... all have closet that when it is open one can see their character that is 1000s time worse then TUQ.

Now coming to the point ... you wrote:

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After submission of nomination papers a time is given to file the objections and in most cases if objection which you put are found , the nomination papers are rejected
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Now, that is the problem ... 'filing of objection'

Why there should be requirement of filing an objection when constitution says that people who are not eligible to contest election do not even qualify to contest election ... hence eligibility of all candidates should be checked 'regardless of anyone filing objection' before giving them permission to contest?

Does it needs PhD to understand that?

Shouldn't it be that investigation by election commission should be a mandatory requirement on every prospective candidate contesting election without need of filing an objection by anyone? (as what TUQ is asking and what constitution demands from EC by making a list of ineligibility of candidate and giving task to EC to make sure all who contest should be eligible to contest).

For instance ... if requirement is that a person can take medical doctor post in hospital only if that person is qualified doctor than when anyone applies for job as doctor in hospital than hospital should investigate each and every applicant before giving him job, else hospital would be doing negligence and should get punished. If not than ineligible person may get the job as doctor and then:

Result would be that so-called ineligible person working as doctor would kill many innocent patient. ... and thus hospital cannot get exonerated from their duty if they would say that 'no hospital patient or no doctor who applied for job' filed case against the fake doctor applicant so we did not investigated and gave him job.

Job of election commission is of more responsibility than hospital recruitment body, as irresponsibility of hospital recruiting body would affect only patients of that hospital, but irresponsibility of election commission in scrutinizing candidates contesting election (regardless of anyone filing case or not) affects whole country and could take life of millions (due to these thugs once elected, they instead of serving people, misuse their power, spread nepotism, rob, loot, plunder, transfer looted wealth from country abroad, and mismanage the country).

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We can know only when one files a nomination paper that he is a candidate .
Character should be discussed . You are too discussing the character of candidates and you are saying that not to discuss this liar who is disturbing the nation for personal gains . He uses name of Allah , Rasool AS and Hussain AS whole the day and lies whole the days . He is calling our all the leaders Yazeed , Terrorists , Zalim , Shaitan , and much more . Who is this dirty ..... to call every one like so .

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Woman venting her anger

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Well, TUQ is right that most in power and in opposition are as he said ... Yazeed, terrorist, Zalim and Shaitan, Do you want me to go into that one by one? :)

Which of the above adjectives you have complain, let me know and I would go into that. Anyhow, again leaving off-topic irrelevancies ... and keeping to the point:

did anyone said that Election commission should get wahi or ilham?

We all know that ... 'Election commission would know of candidate once that candidate files his nomination paper' and problem is not there.

Problem what I pointed out in my earlier post is of scrutinizing the candidate by election commission once the candidate filed his nomination papers showing intention of contesting election ... that:

'Should scrutiny happen if someone files complain'

or

'Thorough scrutiny should be done as mandatory routine by election commission on all prospective candidates intending to contest election (irrespective of any filing of complain by anyone)' ... and nomination papers should be rejected if that candidate do not qualify (is ineligible to contest election according to constitution).

Please read my earlier post with open mind

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i like it War Has Begun, Don’t Sit At Home; Be Part Of The Revolution - YouTube

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He also said that only army and judiciary (CH IFETKHAR) are performing their duties, rest 150.99 millions Pakis are rubbing their behinds:)

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The awaam of pkdeserves ppp and zardari, they selected him and will do so again, they dont appreciate someone trying to help them

and y wud TUQ nt stand behind a bullet proof shield, its obvious that if he wasnt he would have been killed by now

every corrupt idiot is a politician in pakistan.