Tahirul Qadri's long march

aaliyahkhan1 · January 15, 2013, 4:03am

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So he is resting inside the container and the ppl who came for the rally are standing in the cold!! Wah wah..what a revolutionary..what a visionary…and ofcoz the bullets flying abt as well..and he is in his bullet proof container while the ppl are outside risking their lives!!

and Rehman Malik calls him half a pope for once I like Rehman Malik

Captain1 · January 15, 2013, 4:07am

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I wouldn't really say that "bolti band kar di hai", different groups putting an estimate gathering of 30-50,000.. if he had gather 5,00,000 then it would've been a 'bolti band'.

I don't know why you think PTI is looking like a bewa, I agree with Ali that abandoning TuQ was an excellent move by PTI, may be he knew that TuQ would later on demand dissolution of assemblies.

You are forgetting blasphemy law, is that 'peaceful'? The gathering has no shown violence that I agree with.

Now you are talking like a true street jahil gullible person who will believe any chalta phirta peer faqeer who claims 'I saw this dream'.

Captain1 · January 15, 2013, 4:08am

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Not yet I think.

BTW what was firing/shelling for? Trying to incite people towards violence?

aaliyahkhan1 · January 15, 2013, 4:12am

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^on the news it said that the firing had come from within the crowd first to which the police had reacted... (they feel it might be some terrorists in the crowds)

EyEsOnSkY · January 15, 2013, 4:14am

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Can't figure out either. RM asked C.commisnor about firing or shelling incident. I guess not started by public.

EyEsOnSkY · January 15, 2013, 4:16am

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I'm watching Dunya non stop and didn't heard the news you quoted.

aaliyahkhan1 · January 15, 2013, 4:26am

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^we watched it on Sama TV....

Ali_Syed · January 15, 2013, 4:49am

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PTI has been vindicated by not attending the long march. Qadri is trying to create a law and order situation, and maybe get a few dead bodies to bring the government down. Its really dangerous, could bring about another coup. It seems as if he is being used by some invisible powers.

jasos · January 15, 2013, 4:51am

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I hope you ll like it too but hats off for those who are with him.

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217978_133143346847000_1125171594_n.jpg

another joke

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/6339_395251190567529_317365160_n.jpg

EyEsOnSkY · January 15, 2013, 5:04am

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^ I'm not a fan of Qadri sahib but a leader need to be protected withou leader crowd mean nothing.

jasos · January 15, 2013, 5:06am

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Female genital cutting or female circumcision

Pakistani society (forget the higher class..I am talking abt the middle class and lower class ) is corrupt to it core…I have been making this point for a long time…from a doodh wala to an inspector to a shop keeper to a riksha driver, everyone is corrupt or has become corrupt in his own way in last 30 years or so…and more importantly a common person today legitimizes his corruption by giving self-constructed moral theories…

we guppies tend to think of “pakistani maases” as educated middle class but that is only 2% ..majority that lives in rural and urban areas is uneducated, driven by petty benefits, governs and likes to be governed on bradarai and caste system and has no idea of what fairness means.

so stop living in a dream that it is just the leadership that is corrupt…bring a fair leadership and see people’s reaction when that govt will try to collect tax or start punishing for malawat…

I am not suggesting that we need a social revolution at the grass root level or blah blah…just pointing out the obvious and I don’t see this situation abnormal either…every third world country is like this including india ext door… but a continuous democratic system keeps filtering some mess…and yes for that we need at least an independent judiciary and an Independent election tribunal…

all i am saying that the real grass root level change is an evolutionary and generational process and will come after centuries and we Pakistanis shd be ready for that…nothing will change over-nite even if we somehow have a " fair & just" govt so to speak…mark my word, our masses will destroy such govt!

Agree, If we have continuously 3 or 4 elections then there will be political awareness and people will be able to understand who is right or wrong. But if again Army take over and then a 10 years gape will make corrupt leaders again gr8 leader.

QUOTATIONS GALORE

1: Tahir-ul-Qadri kee dhamaka-khez entry: It is not dhamakakhez entry as he was talking about candidate scrutiny implementation problem since long time. Well, not him but many were talking about this flaw in Pakistan election where scrutiny was lacking (even constitution ask for that) and that is the reason corrupts, defaulters, dual national, fake degree holders, etc … managed to contest election in 2008.

Supreme Court getting into disqualifying elected members created an urgency that something has to be done. Obviously, people demand was increasing and Tahir-ul-Qadri who was advocating of meaningful scrutiny took the plunge … and at right time too, because this is time when old government was leaving power and caretaker government along with role of election commission was supposed to come in.

2, 3, 4: Pakistan army kidnapping and killing, Swat killing, Quetta killing is happening since long time and shows that Pakistan government is incompetent. It is wild imagination that Pakistan army got kidnapped and killed, swat killing, Quetta killing, etc … are linked with TUQ long march.

5: Indian skirmishes at line of control are also not new thing. Nothing is to do with TUQ long march, just wild imagination. Indian skirmishes at LOC is army to army concern and not good for the country … but TUQ long march is good for the country (so it is just like linking ‘jumping in front of a truck’ with ‘eating banana’).

6: MQM support of TUQ is also obvious, as MQM is one of the parties who would lose nothing if scrutiny is forcefully implemented according to constitution requirement. Rather MQM can gain a lot, as scrutiny implementation would get rid of feudal and corrupt candidates from election and would give chance to middle-class educated candidates, whom MQM can attract. MQM does not depend on particular candidates or strength of candidate on constituency of any particular assembly seats, and thus for them, if a candidate is corrupt it is easy for party to replace them. One of MQM demand since early days is that middle-class people from the people should come into assembly and feudal leaders who are mostly corrupt and characterless should be stopped from contesting election.

7: Bringing in Q-e-Azam into his speech was I think stupid idea by A-Hussain. Actually, what I think that A-Hussain was trying to use Q-e-Azam example to justify dual nationality, but he conveyed the message in wrong way and media (plus other politicians) utilised that flaw in A-H speech, even though when one look at speech, reality is clear.

What A-H was trying to say is that, to have dual nationality and taking loyalty oath of another country by a Pakistani does not mean that his loyalty towards Pakistan changed or decreased. A-H took the example of Q-e-Azam (probably thinking that it would be great example) that at one time Q-e-Azam also had non Pakistani nationality and passport (obviously, at the time Pakistan did not existed) … so his oath would have been of loyalty to that nationality and passport (British subject), but that oath does not mean that his loyalty towards creating a homeland Pakistan for Muslims was any less … or in other words, even though living under British rule and using Indian-British passport (Q-e-Azam, Liaquat-a-Khan, Ghandhi, Nehru, etc) were needed to take oath that they would be loyal British subject (loyal to Queen of England), but at the same time they were fighting for independence from British rule, shows that even when they took oath to be loyal British subject, their loyalty towards their home country (subcontinent at the time) was not less … rather more than loyalty they had with British rule. Same is true with present dual national Pakistanis, that even though they might be holding dual nationality due to economical, convenience, or personal reasons, their loyalty towards Pakistan nevertheless does not decreases or changes … at least in most cases.

8: T-U-Qadri warning to Punjab government is obvious, as Punjab government has lost all sense of following law, rather have started wrong persecution on strength of power they are entrusted, so those who are getting persecuted (like T-U-Q and people joining him in long march) needed to do something, so T-U-Q reminded Punjab government that their numbers are few and that if they use entrusted power wrongly, they would become answerable soon.

Now … after all imaginary theory of ‘this and that’ if anyone considers that it is conspiracy than instead of giving stupid message to Pakistanis (many of whom are not that stupid), the messenger of doom should get own mental state checked.

So your all words are damn true and remove Democracy is in benefit of people of Pakistan. BTW What you got from Mushraf and Zia Care taker Governments ?
Come on dude lets came out from the “fools paradise”, this man is just a puppet and nothing. If some stupid/paid people from 18 Caror are in long march then it does not mean he should be PM. If next time Dawat-e-Islami and Tableeghi jamat come on roads then you ll start defending them as well

Your behavior is just like a Mureed who believe that “peer sb he nijat dahinda hain, baqi sub pagal hain”

jasos · January 15, 2013, 5:20am

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Please brother he is BIG PEER and don’t say any thing about this Peer Sahib

Just watch this “Mojza of Padri Sahib”, a boy who was unable to talk but Padri Sahib take a sip of water and then throw in his throat and he started speaking Now I do special request to Dr. Sahib to visit all hospitals and start doing this act with all dumb people to speak

Anwer_Pasha · January 15, 2013, 5:21am

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So one man with some fifty thousand followers can make hostage the whole nation and system . Yesterday the made a written agreement with Islamabad administration on sme terms but started violation just after reaching Islamabad .The man whose life is lying whole the time can never be trusted .

Ali_Syed · January 15, 2013, 5:26am

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CJ says that the elections would be on time no matter what happens.

EyEsOnSkY · January 15, 2013, 5:33am

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^ CJ BHI Dum Daba ke nikal jaye when boots take control. Heard that requested made to alert Army.

jasos · January 15, 2013, 5:34am

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So next time Gujjar, Rajput, Arain or any other tribe will be on the roads and marching towards Islamabad saying whole nation is with them

Anwer_Pasha · January 15, 2013, 5:38am

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This time they are not using using 111

Captain1 · January 15, 2013, 5:38am

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naw, he might endorse military control yet again :D

prototype · January 15, 2013, 5:43am

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^this is BS ! you mean he is too superior and his life is more important than any of the people in the crowd ?

EyEsOnSkY · January 15, 2013, 6:01am

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LoL yes he have this option too.