Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas‏

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In this regard, we would like to cite for you the following fatwa issued by Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, in which he states the following:

According to historians, the Fatimides were the first to celebrate the Prophet’s birthday. Qalqashandi, in his book Subh Al-A`sha, says that the Fatimides used to make a huge celebration in Egypt and distribute large amounts of sweets for the occasion. Actually, the Fatimides used to celebrate the birthdays of other members of the Prophet’s family and they also celebrated Christ’s birthday.

However, all of these celebrations were stopped in 488 upon an order from Caliph Al-Musta`li billah appointed as prime minister Al-Afdal Shahindah, son of Commander-in-chief Badr Al-Jamali, a powerful man who conformed to the Sunnah as stated by Ibn Al-Atheer in his book Al-Kamel, volume 8, page 302.

People stopped celebrating such occasions till Al-Ma’mun Al-Bata’ihi came to power and issued an official decree in 517 enjoining the distribution of alms in 12th Rabee` Al-Awwal. Sanaa’ Al-Malik was in charge of distributing them.

When the Ayoubides came to power, they stopped all Fatimide practices, but families used to celebrate the Prophet’s birthday in their houses. Then it returned to be officially celebrated at the beginning of the seventh century in the city of Irbil upon a decree from its prince, Muzafar Al-Deen Abi Sad Kawakbri Ibn Zein Ed-Deen Ali- Ibn Tabakatikin, who was a Sunni.

Muzafar gave great care and attention to such celebrations and ordered marquis to be erected starting from the beginning of Safar. Such tents, which were wonderfully decorated and extended from Al-Qala gate till the Khandaq gate. Muzafar used to go everyday after Asr prayer to watch the festivities in these tents.

The celebration was sometimes held on the 8th of Rabee` Al-Awwal (and sometimes on the 12th) which used to be an official holiday so that the people could enjoy the festival. Two days before the actual celebration, Muzafar used to order the sheep, cows and camels to be slaughtered in the main avenue amidst cheerful festivities, then the meat would be cooked and distributed among the people.

Ibn Al-Hajj Abu Abdullah Al-Abdari says that such festivals were widespread in Egypt during his rein and condemned the innovations that used to take place during such festivals. (Al-Madkhal, volume 2, p 11, 12)

Many books were written on the Prophet’s birthday in the seventh century such as the stories of Ibn Dahya, who died in Egypt in 633 AH, Muhy Ed-Deen Ibn Al-Arabi, who died in Damascus in 683 AH, Ibn Taghrabik, who died in Egypt in 670 AH; and Ahmad Al-Azli and his son Muhammad, who died in Sabata in 670 AH.

Due to the spread of innovation during such celebrations, scholars have denounced them and stated that they were groundless. Among those scholars is the Maliki jurist Taaj Ad-Deen Umar Ibn Al-Lakhmi Al-Sakandari known as Al-Fakahani, who died in 731 AH; he wrote his thesis *Al-Mawrid fil Kalam Ala-Mawlid* on this issue and As-Suyuti quotes it in his book Husn Al-Maqsid.

Sheikh Muhammad Fadl Ashur says that in the ninth century, scholars were divided over the issue. Some said it was permissible, others said it was not and it was recommended by As-Suyuti, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani and Ibn Hajar Al-Haythmi, yet they condemned the innovations that took place during such festivities. Their opinion was derived from the verse: [FONT=AGA Arabesque](And remind them of the days of Allah[FONT=AGA Arabesque]) (Ibrahim 14: 5).

Explaining the previous verse, An-Nasai and Abdullah Ibn Ahmad report in Zaway’d Al-Musnad and Al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab Al-Iman reports on the authority of Ibn Kab that he said that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), said: **'The days of Allah' are Allah's Blessings and Signs, and the Prophet's birth is a great bliss."** (Al-Alusi's *Ruh Al-Maani*)

Muslim reports on the authority of Qatadah Al-Ansari that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), was asked about fasting on Monday and he replied: “It is the day on which I was born and on which I received the Divine Revelation”. It is also reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas and Ibn Jabir that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was born in the "year of the elephant" on the 12th of Rabee Al-Awwal. He also received the Divine Revelation, ascended to the Heavens, migrated to Madinah and died on the 12th of Rabee` Al-Awwal.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), says that the day he was born was a special day. Since it is well known from the Shari`ah that Muslims should seize the opportunity in blessed days and do good deeds, Muslims should celebrate the Prophet’s birthday so as to thank Allah for guiding them to Islam through Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

Therefore, celebrating the Prophet’s birthday is permissible provided that it does not include committing any of the prohibited things. As for throwing banquets, this comes under the verse saying: [FONT=AGA Arabesque](O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you, and render thanks to Allah if it is (indeed) He whom ye worship.‏[FONT=AGA Arabesque]) (Al-Baqarah 2: 172)

My opinion is that celebrating such a religious occasion is recommended especially nowadays for youth have become forgetful of these religious occasions and their significance because they have indulged in other celebrations.

Celebrating such a great event should be done through reading more about the Prophet’s Sunnah and life, building mosques, religious institutes and doing other forms of charity work that remind people of the Prophet’s life and his struggle.

Therefore, it is permissible to celebrate the Prophet’s birthday as an expression of our love to him and our endeavor to follow him as an example provided that these celebrations do not involve any of the prohibited things. Some prohibited things are improper intermingling between men and women, behaving improperly at mosques and partaking in innovations such as worshiping at tombs and other things that violate the teachings of Islam. If such previously mentioned violations surpass the religious benefit realized from these celebrations, then they should be stopped in order to prevent harm and wrongdoing as indicated in the Shari`ah.Moreover, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, adds:

We all know that the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not celebrate the Prophet’s birthday, Hijrah or the Battle of Badr, because they witnessed such events during the lifetime of the Prophet who always remained in their hearts and minds.

Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas said that they were keen on telling their children the stories of the Prophet’s battles just as they were keen on teaching them the Qur’an. Therefore, they used to remind their children of what happened during the Prophet’s lifetime so they did not need to hold such celebrations. However, the following generations began to forget such a glorious history and its significance. So such celebrations were held as a means of reviving great events and the values that we can learn from them.

Unfortunately, such celebrations include some innovations when they should actually be made to remind people of the Prophet’s life and his call. Actually, celebrating the Prophet’s birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam. Such an occasion is meant to remind people of how the Prophet lived.

Allah Almighty says: [FONT=AGA Arabesque](Verily in the Messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the last Day, and remembereth Allah much.[FONT=AGA Arabesque]) (Al-Ahzab 33: 21)

By celebrating the Prophet’s Hijrah, we should teach people values such as sacrifice, the sacrifice of the Companions, the sacrifice of `Ali who slept in the Prophet’s place on the night of the Hijrah, the sacrifice of Asma’ as she ascended the Mountain of Thawr. We should teach them to plan the way the Prophet planned for his Hijrah, and how to trust in Allah as the Prophet did when Abu Bakr told him: We could be seen so easily, the Prophet replied saying: “O Abu Bakr! What do you think of two when Allah is their third?” [FONT=AGA Arabesque](Have no fear, for Allah is with us.[FONT=AGA Arabesque]) (At-Tawbah 9: 40)

We need all these lessons and such celebrations are a revival of these lessons and values. I think that these celebrations, if done in the proper way, will serve a great purpose, getting Muslims closer to the teachings of Islam and to the Prophet’s Sunnah and life.

As for celebrating Ashura’, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), celebrated this day by fasting only. He asked the Jews why they fasted on that day and they told him that it was the day that Allah saved Moses and the people of Israel. The Prophet replied saying: **"We have more of a right to Moses than you."** So he fasted on that day and ordered the people to fast on that day. He also said near the end of his life: **"By Allah, if I lived longer I would fast on the 9th of Muharram."** That is, that he would fast on the 9th and the 10th in order to be different from the Jews who fast on the 10th only. However, some of the Sunnis celebrate Ashura as if it were a feast. The Shi`ah consider it a day of sadness and mourning, but all such things are innovations and are completely un-Islamic.

As for the second part of the question, the exact date of the Prophet’s birth is controversial, but it is most likely to be on Monday, 9th Rabee Al-Awwal (20th or 22nd of April, 571 AC), the same year in which the invasion of the Elephants took place against the Kabah. And he (peace and blessings be upon him) passed away on Monday 12, Rabee` Al-Awwal in the eleventh year of Hijrah (8 June 632 AC.)
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Respond to the question, **Sheikh Atiyyah Saqr**, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, states the following: Observing voluntary fasting is a commendable act of worship. It is not restricted to specific times or occasions. However, there are some days on which fasting is *haram* (prohibited) such as the days of the Eids (1 Shawwal and 10 Dhul-Hijjah); the days of tashreek (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah); and the day of doubt (the last day of Sha`ban), though this latter is controversial among scholars.

There are also some days on which fasting is makruh (disliked) such as fasting Friday alone or Saturday alone.

Moreover, there are some specific days on which fasting is commendable. These are the days of Muharram, days of the four sacred months (Muharram, Rajab, Dul-Qidah and Dhul-Hijjah), the day of *Arafah* (9 Dhul-Hijjah), the day of Ashurah (10 Muharram), Monday and Thursday every week, three days (13, 14 and 15) of every lunar month, the six commendable days of Shawwal, and most days of Shaban, as the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to do so.

That is to say, the Prophet’s birthday on 12 Rabi Awwal, as people used to celebrate it, is not among the days on which fasting is commendable (nor among the days on which fasting is forbidden). Nevertheless, it is by no means commendable to fast on 12 Rabi Awwal in celebration of the Prophet’s birthday. This is because it is not completely agreed that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was born on that day. Rather, some people say that he (peace and blessings be upon him) was born on 9 Rabi`ul- Awwal, and there are still different views in this regard.

On the other hand, fasting on the Prophet’s birthday is rendered blameworthy if it occurs on a day such as Friday because it is blameworthy to intend to fast on Friday only. It is reported in Al-Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade fasting on Friday alone; he said: “None of you should fast on Friday unless he fasts a day before or after it.”

This is the ruling of fasting on the Prophet’s birthday every year. However, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to fast on Monday weekly. He was so keen on it for two reasons. The first reason is that people’s account of deeds are submitted to Allah Almighty on Mondays and Thursdays. So the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) preferred that his fasting on those days be included in his account of deeds when offered before Allah (as reported and verified by At-Tirmidhi).

The second reason for the Prophet’s keenness on fasting on Mondays is that Monday was the day on which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was born and also the day on which he was sent as a Messenger to the worlds (as reported by Muslim). So the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to fast on that day to express gratitude to Allah Almighty for giving him life and selecting him as a Prophet.

Hence, if Muslims would like to show gratitude to Allah Almighty for the Prophet’s birth and for sending him to guide them to the straight path, then they can perform any voluntary acts of worship such as prayer, charity, fasting or whatsoever. So, there is no specific time to offer supererogatory acts of worship. However, fasting on Mondays is preferable, following in the Prophet’s footsteps.

In conclusion, there are no special acts of worship to be observed on 12 Rabi`ul- Awwal particularly, and fasting on that day has no extra virtue than fasting on any other day. Generally, the best way to worship Allah, attain His pleasure, and show love and adherence to His Message is to follow in the Prophet’s footsteps.

It is reported in Al-Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “He who does not follow my tradition (in religion), is not from me (not one of my followers).” It is also reported in Al-Bukhari on the authority of Abu Ya`la that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Whoever loves me should follow my tradition."
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Iconoclaust knows why I'm laughing.

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where ya getting your facts from? acc to my last search Islam is the fastest growing religion…and i dont think any convert aint that stupid to change his/her religion while sitting at home :slight_smile:

dont know what do you mean here :bummer:

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lol…na i dont like cakes :hehe:

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Actually, i don't know

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**Can a Non-Muslim Enter the Mosque?

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.**

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Brother, may Allah reward you abundantly for your interest in knowing the teachings of your religion, Islam! Thanks for the question you posed, it’s very interesting and reflects your care about the Muslim community.

It is noteworthy that Islam encourages tolerance and peaceful co-existence between Muslims and non-Muslims. If non-Muslims enter a mosque to deliver speeches that may lead to a better understanding, then it is welcomed and religiously recommended. Islam is the religion of constructive dialogue in the fullest sense. The history of Muslims is a very good example of this.

In this regard, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, points out the opinions of Muslim jurists on the issue as follows: Allah Almighty says, [FONT=AGA Arabesque](O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haram (at Makkah) after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise. (At-Tawbah 9: 28)

And He says, O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter, nor when ye are polluted, save when journeying upon the road, till ye have bathed. (An-Nisaa’ 4: 43)

Relying on these verses, the majority of Muslim Jurists, including those from the Maliki, Shafi`i and other schools of fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence), maintain that the polytheists are not allowed to enter the Sacred Mosque in Makkah. However, they state that there is nothing wrong if Christians and Jews enter it. They state that this ruling applies to the Holy Mosque in Makkah as well as its precincts. Abu Hanifah, however, views that even a polytheist can enter the Holy Mosque in Makkah as long as he will not stay or reside there. He interpreted impurity to mean spiritual impurity (shirk).

As for other mosques than the Holy Mosque in Makkah, the Madinan jurists forbade non-Muslims from entering them because non-Muslims are regarded by the Qur’an as impure. Imam Ahmad is reported to have said that they can only enter these mosques with the permission of Muslims. This is supported by the report that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted the people of At-Ta’if to stay in the mosque prior to their embracing Islam. He also received the Christians of Najran in his mosque in Madinah. When the time of their prayer was due, they prayed in the mosque towards the eastern direction. Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said (to his Companions), “Leave them (to perform prayer).”

Under the title ‘A Polytheist Entering the Mosque’, Al-Bukhari, in his Sahih mentioned that Thamamah ibn Athal (despite that he was a polytheist) was tied up in the mosque.

In Fath al-Bari, Ibn Hajar mentioned that there are different opinions concerning this issue. The Hanafi jurists gave unconditional permission while the Maliki scholars and al-Mazni are reported to have forbidden it absolutely. The Shafi`i scholars differentiated between the Holy Mosque and other mosques. There is an opinion that the permission is restricted to the People of the Book but this is refuted by the case of Thamamah mentioned above.
Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Islamic lecturer and author, states: It is forbidden for Muslims to allow any non-Muslim to enter Al-Masjid Al-Haram in Makkah and its sacred precincts, because Allah says: O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haram (at Makkah) after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.) (At-Tawbah 9: 28)
Concerning other mosques, some Muslim jurists maintain that it is permissible for non-Muslims to enter them because there is nothing to indicate the unlawfulness of such act; others say that it is not permissible, by analogy to the case of Al-Masjid Al-Haram.

The correct view is that it is permissible if it serves the interests of Shari`ah or meets a valid need, such as if a non-Muslim needs to enter a mosque to hear something that may encourage him to embrace Islam, or because he needs to drink water, or the like. This is pursuant to the way of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) on this issue; he tied up (his prisoner) Thamaamah ibn Athal Al-Hanafi in the mosque before he became a Muslim, and the delegations of Thaqif and the Christians of Najran stayed in the mosque before they embraced Islam. Actually, many benefits were accrued from this: they were able to hear the speeches and sermons of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to see people praying and reciting the Qur’an, etc. (Fatawa Al-Lajnah Al-Da’imah - The Standing Committee for Islamic Research and Ifta’)

Therefore, if non-Muslims seek permission to enter the mosque in order to see how Muslims perform prayer, there is nothing wrong in that, as long as they have nothing with them that could defile the mosque, and their women are not dressed in a provocative fashion, or any other reason that bars them from entering the mosque. So they can enter and sit behind the Muslims to see how they pray.
Based on the above Fatwas, we can say that non-Muslims, including Christians and Jews, are allowed to enter mosques, but they should abide by the following conditions:

1- Non-Muslims are allowed to enter mosques – other than the Sacred Mosque in Makkah – with a prior permission of Muslims.

2- They must have a sound reason for entering the mosque.

3- They should respect the decorum of the mosque and keep in mind that it is a sacred place of worship.

4- Both men and women are not allowed to uncover their `Awarah (parts of the body which should not be exposed in front of others) when entering the mosque.

With regard to the issue of restoration, we can say that Muslims should have the priority in carrying out such work, unless it is necessary to seek the help of non-Muslims. There must be a need to seek their help, especially in issues related to mosques.

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I rest my case! Thanks for reading.

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huh, u guys mosques dont allow non muslims in?
my fav masjid in my city, ICC northbrook always has an open door policy for non muslims, during ramadan there are sometimes upwards of 50-60 ppl atjummah to luisten to khutba and talk to people.

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[quote="zobia, post:4, topic:177265"]

ata bhai...its not new defintion...it was actually revealing you the dimension of what we say, think and then how other precieve. i still do think Masjid are ALLAH SWT ghar not belongs to Mr. Tahir!

yeh kaisa ilm hai k app in ko to acha khe rahay hain...you should be thanking ALLAH SWT ka shuker ada nahi ker rahay bhut si cheezoon k yahan? (i think app khud dekhain may kia khena cha rahi hoo...hint will)

to kis baat ka yeh mujhay batain gain...k may in ki ziarat k leya aoon...in k haath choomoon...waghera waghera!

if ALLAH SWT can make him aalim, than its not something he possess. SO THANKS ALLAH SWT THAT HE BLESSED HIM (if he is), AND PRAY FOR YOURSELF K ONE DAY YOU ALSO BE AMONG RIGHTEOUS (if that is what you think is right!)

pinko and t- this is the reason i always stop you people that there is nothing in me.
good for him
ya pray for me!/quote]

From all you try to write above... well yes I can pray for you, specially NOW! ...
Mr Tahir did not say Masjid is his hosue, do not make stories please! ... and do not twist your doubts on being him Muslim to further multi-dimensional and off topic remarks! ... be specific and clear in your all stances, whether clearly ask if you want to know if he is a Muslim or don't ask! ...

If Masjid is ALLAH ka ghar then it should be open for all the creature, not for just the Muslims, right?

We call Masjid a ALLAH ka ghar, because this place is the most honorable and most clean and most respeted place, where we do pray Allah... its also a place to preach Islam to Muslims, and to make preachers to be sent to non_Mulsims for bringing them into the circle of Islam! ...

Every human who did SHAHADA't is considered as a Muslim, no matter how sinful or hypocrite he/she is, but it will be only ALLAH who will decide how good or bad Muslim he/sje was, its not us! ...

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okay lets say if we knew the birthday of prophet jesus, would celebrating it be any more right or wrong than celebrating the birthday of prophet muhammad?

I dont think so.

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btw ata bhai and t- just to let you know my islamic studies teacher was jewish :p
and i still dont know what kinda mosques or institution both of you go to where they dont let non-muslims :p

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Oh so now it's us that have problem with letting non-muslims in? Should i quote your earlier posts Zobia?!

We're here posting all this stuff because you seemed to have trouble comprehending the fact that Masjid is for all who want to learn.

ATA and Me have always been saying, it's Allah's house and open for all who wants to learn Islam.

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to hareem:

the reference does not say that the Prophet(saw) and sahaba(ra) celebrated milaad. On the contrary it states quite clearly that they didn't do so. What it does show is that the Prophet(saw) did fast on monday because that was the day he was born and given the divine message as a way of thanking Allah. So there is still no basis for a yearly celebration.

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Ulta chor kotwaal ko daantay....

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first define celebration?

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Kamz,
Its allowed for a non-Muslim to enter in a MASJID but with some conditions!

which are (taken precisely from above post):1- Non-Muslims are allowed to enter mosques – other than the Sacred Mosque in Makkah – with a prior permission of Muslims.

2- They must have a sound reason for entering the mosque.

3- They should respect the decorum of the mosque and keep in mind that it is a sacred place of worship.

4- Both men and women are not allowed to uncover their `Awarah (parts of the body which should not be exposed in front of others) when entering the mosque

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it u saying that...but not Mr. Tahir

and please direct me where i said it not good idea to let non-muslims into the mosque

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agreed!

if celebrating the birth of one prophet is allowed then there is no harm in celebrating others' as well. That is the reason i said in my earlier post that celebrating the birth of any person be it a prophet or a non-prophet is a meaningless thing.

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You did ask for the ref for my statement regarding fasting, and here it was.

The fatwa also allows the celebration of Prophet's Birthday on different basis.

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That tells what you studeid, Alhamdulillah I took teachings of Islam from Muslim teachers and scholars :-)

BTW, you are best in twisting and forgetting what you have in your own mind! anyway my answer would be the same as below :-p

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of a non-prophet may be but Remembering a Prophet on a day and thanking Allah for giving us guidance through him might not be meaningless.