Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
Absolutely correct! :)
Nonmuslims arabs used to come to Rasool Allah (Sal Allahu Alaihi Wasallam) to learn about Islam, while he was seated in Masjid.
there is only one phenomenon absolute correct and that is "ALLAH SWT is one and Prophet Muhammad PBUH is his last messenger"
rest may be factual playing of visuality!
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
there is only one phenomenon absolute correct and that is "ALLAH SWT is one and Prophet Muhammad PBUH is his last messenger"
rest may be factual playing of visuality!
You cannot invite others to Islam, if you put a wall between them and yourself. What are you gonna tell a person who wants to convert 'Oh no! Please do Shahaada before you can enter the Masjid?' The only place that i'm aware of that bars Non-muslims from entering is the cities of Makkah and Madinah.
I said nothing about any Phenomenon being correct or incorrect for that matter. So i don't see how you would say that and connect that to what i said. I was talking about what ATA said as being correct.
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Participating with non muslims in their functions for the sake of unity and peace is fine but we should not forget the difference between Milad un Nabi(SAW) and Christmas, Christmas was started by the pagans(Mithra worshippers) not Christians themselves.
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You cannot invite others to Islam, if you put a wall between them and yourself. What are you gonna tell a person who wants to convert 'Oh no! Please do Shahaada before you can enter the Masjid?' The only place that i'm aware of that bars Non-muslims from entering is the cities of Makkah and Madinah.
I said nothing about any Phenomenon being correct or incorrect for that matter. So i don't see how you would say that and connect that to what i said. I was talking about what ATA said as being correct.
this is not even my point was.
but you are allow to think what ever you want!
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Who was Milad-un-Nabi started by? Prophet (S.A.W)? Sahabas (R.A)? 
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
this is not even my point was. but you are allow to think what ever you want!
And what was your point then? Clearly you have an issue with inviting others to the faith through propagating in a Masjid
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Not by Sahaba(R.A) but Salaf, I think it were Fatmids.
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Oh well. I celebrate none of them so meh! 
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
you are also allow to use brain and eyes! masjid are ALLAH SWT's not us. my concern is not he is letting muslims or no-muslims my concerns is the wrong use of wording! period.
second i dont get the idea of ziarat, aqeedat of humans. ALL our appraisal ONLY BELONGS TO ALLAH SWT! (too me its low level shirk of ziarat-ing some peer fakeer or watever!)
ps. the least i can give them is respect, nothing more!
I used brain and eyes both! no need to worry for me! ...
Just like Masjid belong to Allah, its also ALLAH who will decide who is not a Muslims, thats will not be decided by YOU! period! OK?
Never ever doubt on any Muslim for being a non-Muslims!
To add more about Masajids, as Ali and Tegs have enlighten you that all non-Muslims were also used to come to Rasool Allah :SAW: in the Masjid to learn about Islam! ... so why not now ? Be open and open minded...
a non-Muslims also can claim when you said Masjid only belongs to ALLAH and hence he should be allowed to visit inside the mosque! then what is your answer? He is also creature of Allah, of course!
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Same here.
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Well, good for you.
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
interesting..
now wait and see others label him as a non-muslim for acknowledging Jesus' birth pbuh
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
interesting..
now wait and see others label him as a non-muslim for acknowledging Jesus' birth pbuh
true....and sad.
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Participating with non muslims in their functions for the sake of unity and peace is fine but we should not forget the difference between Milad un Nabi(SAW) and Christmas, Christmas was started by the pagans(Mithra worshippers) not Christians themselves.
and also the 25th of dec is no really the Birth Date of Jesus..
So there,,
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
I used brain and eyes both! no need to worry for me! ...
Just like Masjid belong to Allah, its also ALLAH who will decide who is not a Muslims, thats will not be decided by YOU! period! OK? Never ever doubt on any Muslim for being a non-Muslims!
To add more about Masajids, as Ali and Tegs have enlighten you that all non-Muslims were also used to come to Rasool Allah :SAW: in the Masjid to learn about Islam! ... so why not now ? Be open and open minded...
a non-Muslims also can claim when you said Masjid only belongs to ALLAH and hence he should be allowed to visit inside the mosque! then what is your answer? He is also creature of Allah, of course!
i simply asked the question, is he really the muslim?
so tell me whats bad about it?
it could be sarastic as well that this tradition is normal among so-called muslims then where this saint-like is appearing from?
so would you care to reveal what made you conclude that i am doubting his faith? and if you so sure i am then look at the reasoning as well.
i do help blind patrons!
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and also the 25th of dec is no really the Birth Date of Jesus..
So there,,
Its not about the correct date of birth, its about who first started celebrating it? Christmas was started by pagans in the honour of sun-god Mithra.
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i simply asked the question, is he really the muslim?
so tell me whats bad about it? it could be sarastic as well that this tradition is normal among so-called muslims then where this saint-like is appearing from?
so would you care to reveal what made you conclude that i am doubting his faith? and if you so sure i am then look at the reasoning as well.
i do help blind patrons!
So you know how to classify a person as a 'true' muslim? The man maybe a better muslim than most of us because he's seen as a scholar by most of the people.
As for Ziarat, and people treating him like a saint, that's the peoples' fault. He doesn't ask them or send out fatwas 'encouraging' others to come to him in such a manner. People twist respect to a level that starts to look awkward and in some way contradictory to the teachings as well. Again it's the peoples lack of knowledge and their sole fault.
And you are doubting his faith because you just did it within this post alone. First you raise the question 'Is he really a muslim?' and then you're asking whether you've done it or not. See the connection!?
Your reasoning seems to be that Non-Muslims are na-pak and too unholy to be in a Masjid. A muslim is one who submits to Allah and accepts Muhammad (SAW) as the last prophet. If a Christian/Atheist/Pagan wants to come to masjid to learn about Islam, what're you gonna do? Turn him away? Tell him lets talk outside because this is for muslims only?
There was a time when a Bedouin was found urinating in the Masjid. The sahabas rushed to get a hold of him and punish him, but Rasool Allah (SAW) stopped them. Told them to let him finish, and when he was done. They were told to just wash the surface off with water. (I apologize for not being able to source it, but i am pretty sure i can find the Hadith that states this)
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We don't even allow other Muslims to step into our masaajid how can we allow non-Muslims in. Maqaam e afsos.
I used brain and eyes both! no need to worry for me! ...
Just like Masjid belong to Allah, its also ALLAH who will decide who is not a Muslims, thats will not be decided by YOU! period! OK? Never ever doubt on any Muslim for being a non-Muslims!
To add more about Masajids, as Ali and Tegs have enlighten you that all non-Muslims were also used to come to Rasool Allah :SAW: in the Masjid to learn about Islam! ... so why not now ? Be open and open minded...
a non-Muslims also can claim when you said Masjid only belongs to ALLAH and hence he should be allowed to visit inside the mosque! then what is your answer? He is also creature of Allah, of course!
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas?
i simply asked the question, is he really the muslim?
so tell me whats bad about it? it could be sarastic as well that this tradition is normal among so-called muslims then where this saint-like is appearing from?
so would you care to reveal what made you conclude that i am doubting his faith? and if you so sure i am then look at the reasoning as well.
i do help blind patrons!
Now you came up with a new definition of your own doubt about him being Muslim! ...
This is how you recognise a Muslim person? Do you know a word about this aalim?
If not then go and read about him and listen him, and even then if you are not able find out his religion, then check his name which you usually recognise by Muslim names!
Yes he is a Muslim mashAllah and a very good AALIM... just FYI!
Now help yourself!
cyoo ...
Re: Tahir-ul-Qadri celebrating Christmas
Its not about the correct date of birth, its about who first started celebrating it? Christmas was started by pagans in the honour of sun-god Mithra.
so what did they call it then,
i m sure not Christ-mas
just curious//