Syria says it accepts Russian chemical arms proposal to turn over its WMDs to UN

[khoji]

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[khoji]

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Khoji you say most of the kwarij are not even Sunni, so why are the attacking the non-Sunnis?

Kharijis use the name of Sunnis but their views are different from traditional Sunni views when it comes to declaring others kafirs and killing innocent people if they refuse khariji views.

[Shamraz_Khan]

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The point isn't to say that we should support Al Q. Far from it. But to point out that what Assad has done is worse than anything Al Q has ever done.

Its a civil war & killings are going on from both sides. Btw, cannibal rebels are just as brutal, if not more, as Assad's forces, but I have yet to see Assad ripping a heart out a dead body and eating it on camera. When that happens maybe I will change my mind about him, too.

[mercenary2k]

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@arshad5

Seems like Obama was pushed into a corner by his Zionists masters, and is desperately searching for a face saving way out of the mess that he finds himself in. Russia has provided him with the face saving way out. If America does not go ahead with its campaign in Syria then that effectively means that **America has abandoned the militants that it shipped there **and are fighting the Syrian state to be massacred.

Another gem from arshad

[mercenary2k]

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Its a civil war & killings are going on from both sides. Btw, cannibal rebels are just as brutal, if not more, as Assad's forces, but I have yet to see Assad ripping a heart out a dead body and eating it on camera. When that happens maybe I will change my mind about him, too.

If the rebels win, they will turn Syria into a Sunni extremist Al Qaeda state where they will massacare the Shias, christians, secularists and non-extremist sunnis.

[arshad5]

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Sen. John McCain on Wednesday lamented that President Barack Obama’s televised address did not mention helping the Syrian opposition, saying he feels for his friends among the rebels.
“I was very disappointed that the president did not mention the Free Syrian Army and our moral and material assistance for them, which is required. I think they do feel that they are being abandoned,” the Arizona Republican said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday. “I feel badly, very badly for my friends in the Free Syrian Army today.”

McCain mentioned that Syrian President Bashar Assad has resumed  flying airstrikes against the opposition forces, and the president’s position  sends the wrong message to that group.

“There’s nothing that would drive Syrians more into the hands of extremists than to feel that they have been abandoned by the West, and that impression I’m sure has been made on them today,” McCain said.

Read more: John McCain: President Obama ignored rebels - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com

[hareem01]

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Seems like it was all pre-planned. Putin's suggestion to Syria, Syria accepts it, US is happy.

why didn't anybody think of this before gathering their forces in mid east?

They just wanted to have their military built ups in the region for God knows what.

[ehsan]

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Its a civil war & killings are going on from both sides. Btw, cannibal rebels are just as brutal, if not more, as Assad's forces, but I have yet to see Assad ripping a heart out a dead body and eating it on camera. When that happens maybe I will change my mind about him, too.

So a civil war to save a family dynasty by a butcher and in the process tens of thousands have lost their lives is not enough to change your mind about the pious Assad.

[sanjsingh]

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I don't think that Saudi or Qatar will be happy with this, they are hell bent on western intervention. Even offering to pay for the bombs which will be dropped on the Syrians.

[Shamraz_Khan]

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@ehsan

So a civil war to save a family dynasty by a butcher and in the process tens of thousands have lost their lives is not enough to change your mind about the pious Assad.

No, I never said Assad was pious…what I said was is that the alternative is worse. They give barbarians a bad name.

One Photographer’s Witness to a Brutal Execution in Syria - LightBox

The man was brought in to the square. His eyes were blindfolded. I began shooting pictures, one after the other. It was to be the fourth execution that day I would photograph. I was feeling awful; several times I had been on the verge of throwing up. But I kept it under control because as a journalist I knew I had to document this, as I had the three previous beheadings I had photographed that day, in three other locations outside Aleppo.

The crowd began cheering. Everyone was happy. I knew that if I tried to intervene I would be taken away, and that the executions would go ahead. I knew that I wouldn’t be able to change what was happening and I might put myself in danger.

I saw a scene of utter cruelty: a human being treated in a way that no human being should ever be treated. But it seems to me that in two and a half years, the war has degraded people’s humanity. On this day the people at the execution had no control over their feelings, their desires, their anger. It was impossible to stop them.

I don’t know how old the victim was but he was young. He was forced to his knees. The rebels around him read out his crimes from a sheet of paper. They stood around him. The young man was on his knees on the ground, his hands tied. He seemed frozen.

Two rebels whispered something into his ear and the young man replied in an innocent and sad manner, but I couldn’t understand what he said because I don’t speak Arabic.

At the moment of execution the rebels grasped his throat. The young man put up a struggle. Three or four rebels pinned him down. The man tried to protect his throat with his hands, which were still tied together. He tried to resist but they were stronger than he was and they cut his throat. They raised his head into the air. People waved their guns and cheered. Everyone was happy that the execution had gone ahead.

That scene in Syria, that moment, was like a scene from the Middle Ages, the kind of thing you read about in history books. The war in Syria has reached the point where a person can be mercilessly killed in front of hundreds of people—who enjoy the spectacle.

As a human being I would never have wished to see what I saw. But as a journalist I have a camera and a responsibility. I have a responsibility to share what I saw that day. That’s why I am making this statement and that’s why I took the photographs. I will close this chapter soon and try never to remember it.

[picoico]

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@Shamraz_Khan

No, I never said Assad was pious…what I said was is that the alternative is worse. They give barbarians a bad name.

One Photographer’s Witness to a Brutal Execution in Syria - LightBox

You’ll need to do much better to top a chemical attack on civilians. Perhaps this guy was involved in the gas attack…who knows. But that’s a far cry from the todler I saw twitching in response to nerve agents in their blood stream. And yet, that’s supposed to be the “better” of the options…

[Shamraz_Khan]

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^^^ What difference does is it make as for as how a person is killed? The end result is the same...a dead person. What is not expected from a civilized person is cannibalism on camera. When you start doing that, not only you should not expect any sympathy, but than there is no diff between you and animals.

[psyah]

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So a civil war to save a family dynasty by a butcher and in the process tens of thousands have lost their lives is not enough to change your mind about the pious Assad.

Brother ehsan ... I have made my mind up about Shamraz ... That he and Assad are two branches of the same tree ... His talk about him being a lesser evil is a cover ... He actually loves Assad.

[psyah]

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^^^ What difference does is it make as for as how a person is killed? The end result is the same...a dead person. What is not expected from a civilized person is cannibalism on camera. When you start doing that, not only you should not expect any sympathy, but than there is no diff between you and animals.

I would say the "cannibalism" is far less evil than the nerve agent ... The reason being the "cannibalism" was directed at a soldier specific and was known to be a rapist and dehumanising of innocent people. It was done out of anger and anger is emotion that was felt through injustice ... The nerve agent attack was indiscriminate killing and it was done out of senselessness and self-worth ... Assad did do it ... It has his wholemark signature all over it. He believes he is king and his people call him god ... You think him ma'sum ... Like I think a prophet of God is ma'sum ...

[Shamraz_Khan]

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Brother ehsan ... I have made my mind up about Shamraz ... That he and Assad are two branches of the same tree ... His talk about him being a lesser evil is a cover ... He actually loves Assad.

Thanks for the info. Next thing you're going to say that Assad is my blood brother. Seriously, take if from me...its not a good idea to post when you're high. :D

[hareem01]

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^^^ What difference does is it make as for as how a person is killed? The end result is the same...a dead person. What is not expected from a civilized person is cannibalism on camera. When you start doing that, not only you should not expect any sympathy, but than there is no diff between you and animals.

The guy who 'ate' the heart had his relatives killed in front of him so he was definitely not in a state of what we'd call a normal person. He even admitted afterwards that he shouldn't have done what he did.

Now how many times do I have to say the bloody same thing over and over?

You do realise you're justifying torture and brutal acts by claiming that " it doesn't make any difference how you die". By your definition, even rape should be okay too because the end results is usually not death.

[Sa1eem]

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The guy who 'ate' the heart had his relatives killed in front of him so he was definitely not in a state of what we'd call a normal person. He even admitted afterwards that he shouldn't have done what he did.

Now how many times do I have to say the bloody same thing over and over?

You do realise you're justifying torture and brutal acts by claiming that " it doesn't make any difference how you die". By your definition, even rape should be okay too because the end results is usually not death.

Facing any circumstances, I would not eat a dead person’s heart, would you?

I believe that this person had gene of cannibalism and showed that trait facing the situation.

Probably Allah is trying to guide Muslim that who Sufiyani could be in Syrian war (not just one person but one of the two sides in war) … remember, ‘Hind bint Utbah (Sufiyani = wife of Sufiyan) … who did the same at battle of Uhad, ate the heart of her enemy Hazrat Hamza (RA).

Hind bint Utbah showed the gene of cannibalism because she saw what happened to her beloved family members in battle of Badr about whom she was most proud.

Battle of Badr started with 3 one-to-one duel combat. From Quraish side, Hind's father Utbah ibn Rabah, her uncle Sheeba ibn Rabah and her brother Walid ibn Utbah came out.

On Muslim side it was uncle of Prophet (SAW) … Hamza (RA), cousin brother of Prophet (SAW) … Ali (RA), and another cousin brother of prophet (SAW) … Ubaydah (RA) ibn Harith came out.

Battle started with Hamza (RA) killing his opponent Utbah in no time … Ali (RA) killing his opponent Walid in no time … but Ubaydah (RA) getting injured by Sheebah but Hamza (RA) and Ali (RA) free from their duel combat … moved-in and killed Sheebah. [Later Ubaydah (RA) died due to the injury].

Hind was seeing all this … all happened in front of her eyes … when she saw proud warriors of Quraish and ‘her closest family members who were her pride’ ending in dust…. So you can say that definitely her state was not normal when she ate heart of Hamza (RA) after his Shahadat in Ghazwa-e-Uhad and when she got the opportunity … just like this present cannibal (as you mentioned) did … under the state of mind similar to Sufiyani (Hind) after losing his family members to Syrian army (only difference is that many lost their family member to Syrian army or rebels, but none have shown sign of cannibalism).

It is evident that both (cannibal of Syria and Hind bint Utbah) share gene of cannibalism … who knows, present cannibal of Syria may have got his gene coming directly from Sufiyani … or Hind bint Utbah bin Rabah … and his action is signal from Allah for Muslims to recognise present day ‘Sufiyani’ … (remember, sign of Allah is always as subtle as this … and only few may get it).

Basharul-Asad may be bad … though under Hafiz-ul-Asad and Bashar-ul-Asad Syrians seen harmony, progress and good worldly life (even though Syria is poor country, living standard in Syria was better than most Arab countries … even better than some oil rich countries)… nevertheless both Asads are neither Najdis nor follower of Najd, when it is prediction of Prophet (SAW) as mentioned in various hadith books that evil would appear from Najd and today we are seeing the evil of Najd all over Muslim world by them directly (petro-dollars) or through their followers (fed by petro-dollars). Cannibal of Syria is also one of the followers of Najd, promoting Najdi value and war of Najd in Syria.

[Pathan_Bhai]

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Here is latest of more insurgent cannibles at work digging graves inside a mosque and presumably playing with some holy person’s body remains as the grave is said to be inside a mosque.

[queer]

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have you tried showing all that to ban ki moon, sa1eem pai? cannibalism genetics and mythology..

and if syrians were doing lovely and living in harmony, where did the rebels come from?

[Sa1eem]

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@queer

have you tried showing all that to ban ki moon, sa1eem pai? cannibalism genetics and mythology..

and if syrians were doing lovely and living in harmony, where did the rebels come from?

You mean … Cannibalism that happened during the time of Prophet (SAW) when Hamza (RA) heart was eaten raw by Hind … is it mythology?

And what you want me to show to ‘ban ki moon’ … all clear in ‘full moon’?

As for Syrians were doing well in their living and were living in harmony, one can check themselves from past archives (rather, fact is that even Iraq under Saddam was doing well as far as living standard is concerned compared to oil rich Arab world) … both Asad and Saddam towing the line of socialism (or Islamic socialism) … belonging to same Ba`ath party.

As for rebels in Syria, that is not big deal. You will find rebels in every country who work against the government, be they good or bad. Nevertheless, in Syria we do not have rebels only from Syrians but most in front line are imported rebels, belonging to empty minded Zombies from Western world, Iraqi Kharjees, and Kharjees from all over the world … backed by petro-dollars, Najdi ideology, Kharjee religion, and ‘Sufiyani’ gene (Cannibalism).

These Kharjee rebels kill for the sake of killing, eat human flesh to celebrate victory and do not even leave dead peacefully in graves.