Syria says it accepts Russian chemical arms proposal to turn over its WMDs to UN

This is a good move.

Syria says it accepts Russian chemical arms proposal

The Syrian government has accepted a Russian proposal to turn over its chemical weapons to international control to avoid a military confrontation with the United States, Syria’s foreign minister said Tuesday.

“Yesterday [Monday] we held a round of very fruitful negotiations with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and he put forward an initiative regarding chemical weapons. Already in the evening we accepted Russia’s initiative,” Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said after meeting with the speaker of the Russian parliament.

Muallem said Damascus accepted the Russian initiative to “derail the U.S. aggression.”

The report was initially carried by the Russian news agency Interfax.

Meanwhile, Lavrov said that Russia is now working with Syria to prepare a detailed plan of action, which will be presented shortly.

He said Moscow will then be ready to finalize the plan together with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

President Obama has threatened to use U.S. military action against Syria in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack that killed more than 1,400 people in a Damascus suburb. Syria has denied the charge.

The latest developments came as France said it would put before the United Nations Security Council a resolution appealing to the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad to make public the details of its chemical weapons program. The announcement was made in Paris by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.

It was not immediately clear whether the terms of an agreement accepted by Syria would track with the French proposal, but it was a sign of further diplomatic progress on the issue.

Fabius said the terms of the resolution will call for an “extremely serious” response were Syria to violate the conditions set by the resolution. He said the process — under Chapter 7 of the U.N. charter — will start later Tuesday.

France is a permanent member of the Security Council. The other permanent members are the United States, United Kingdom, China and Russia. Permanent members have the power to veto resolutions.

The Arab League also announced that it would back the Russian proposal, AFP reports.

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It will be a great move, hopefully the warmongers will allow it.

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I'm uncertain regarding the effectiveness of this move. Obama's argument has been that the line was crossed and therefore he needs to act. This will help to deter American warmongering but I doubt it will put the matter to rest.

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This looks like a face saver for everyone

Assad avoids foreign attack, gets to continue using his conventional weapons to massacre his dissenting Sunnis.
Putin looks like the global peace making statesman, averting war.
Obama avoids the embarrassment of losing a Congress vote on attacking Syria.

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This looks like a face saver for everyone

Assad avoids foreign attack, gets to continue using his conventional weapons to massacre his dissenting Sunnis.
Putin looks like the global peace making statesman, averting war.
Obama avoids the embarrassment of losing a Congress vote on attacking Syria.[ele/QUOTE]
You seem to be looking at it only through sectarian angle. Assad is not targeting Sunnis for their sect. He is just against everyone who opposes him. That is similar to other dictators like those in Bahrain, Saudi, Jordan, etc.

The best thing is for democracy to be brought in every country. Every dictatorship or monarchy should be removed. But people and countries (like US) only selectively choose countries to be allowed democracy.

They want democracy in Syria but not in Saudi or Bahrain or Egypt or Jordan. This is the double standard.

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Oh but Assad never used the chemical weapons…it was the rebels who did to frame him. :rolleyes:

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I hope this is not just a distraction tactic by Assad. Both Assad and rebels need to be checked but I am not in favour of another war

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This won't stop the war but will prevent any western intervention.

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Call a spade a spade. This is a completely sectarian war. Support for one side or the other is overwhelmingly split along sectarian lines.

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You can certainly make that case, but the issue here is international intervention, particularly from the countries in the West (including Russia), who are not basing their policies on sectarian biases.

I agree that it's despicable what Assad is doing, and the failure to act politically while 100,000 people died is shameful. Such is politics I guess.

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It's a good move ... Why does he not do another good move and remove himself from the throne of Syria and let the people recoup and rebuild the country? It appears his move is only designed to prolong the agony of the Syrians ... And a very selfish manoeuvre ... it is ... And it might work too .... For a while.

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Seems like Obama was pushed into a corner by his Zionists masters, and is desperately searching for a face saving way out of the mess that he finds himself in. Russia has provided him with the face saving way out. If America does not go ahead with its campaign in Syria then that effectively means that America has abandoned the militants that it shipped there and are fighting the Syrian state to be massacred.

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You seem to be looking at it only through sectarian angle. Assad is not targeting Sunnis for their sect. He is just against everyone who opposes him. That is similar to other dictators like those in Bahrain, Saudi, Jordan, etc.

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What interest do Hezbollah (a paramilitary Shia outfit) and Iran (a theocratic Shia state) have in keeping Assad in power? Further, are you about to suggest that the people who were gassed "happened" to be Sunni? That them being sunni did not make it palatable to slaughter innocents for Assad and his supporters?

This has been made a sectarian conflict. Like it or not. To be certain, the conflicts in SA and Bahrain are also sectarian.

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G*****ose talk is cheap but who and what would take over the chemical weapons where? I hope it isn't Russia (pass it back to Syrians...). It is like Israel not liking multilateral negotiations, but they are always eager for US led multilateral talks between them and Palestinians.

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By giving up Chemical weapons one doesn't necessarily accept having used them. I would still want the matter to be cleared regarding the chemical weapon usage on August 21st. The American report came off more as an opinion piece rather than a fact based report. A lot of what has been said so far also seems to be conjecture rather than irrefutable evidence.

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I can live with Assad eliminating Al-Queda terrorists. Btw, between Assad and Al-Queda killers he is lessor of the 2 evils.

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Pure face saving exercise by grand daddy of all terrorist.

PressTV - US could find itself at war with Russia over Syria: Mark Glenn

We are staring down the barrel here against the Russians. It’s very possible that this thing, if it continues in Syria the way that it has been, that we could find ourselves going to war against Russia. I think Barack Obama is looking for an out and I think it is entirely possible that the jig is up."


All this congress shongress and votes blah blah is horse shyt excuses, if US could it would have long time ago, like it has in the past.

As for the answer to post# 16 its Assad.

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Just recently the Al-Q affiliated militants took over a Christian village. And left it pretty much unharmed.

Looks like the sands are shifting. Yesterday's A-holes are being a bit sensible, and the secular saviors of the Arab world are vile murderers. Lesser of 2 evils...would be curious to hear what you consider evil is. Al Q has not yet massacred women and children in Syria. And their behavior thus far seems to indicate that they won't. Regardless...Assad has.

The point isn't to say that we should support Al Q. Far from it. But to point out that what Assad has done is worse than anything Al Q has ever done.

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It became a sectarian conflict only later. It started as merely a movement for democracy. And Assad being a dictator, crushed it like any other dictator from Saudi, Jordan, Bahrain or UAE.
But Assad crushed the opposition for being the opposition. He did not do it because of them being Sunni. Even many Alawites supported the movement for democracy. So it was not sectarian conflict.

But later the Gulf Arabs started looking at it from sectarian angle and started sending arms and ammunition to opposition. Their weapons were going more towards the most extremist khawarij who were pouring in from around the world. This is how it became a sectarian conflict. These khawarij, most of whom are not even Sunnis, started threatening massacre of common non-Sunnis for Assad's crimes. And they proved it too. There are many youtube videos on that. They even demolished the tomb of a well known Companion of Prophet, while threatening to do the same to the tomb of Prophet's granddaughter who is revered by Shias.
So now why would it not become sectarian conflict now?

Now Sunnis are on one side and everyone else on another. This includes not just Shias but also Alawites, Christians and Kurds.


The reason why Hezbollah and Iran take Assad's side is obvious. Their worst enemy is Israel, not Sunnis. And Assad going away means end of Hezbollah and Iran resistance to Israel.

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Khoji you say most of the kwarij are not even Sunni, so why are the attacking the non-Sunnis?