Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

Its kind of sad, but I guess this is expected given what is going in Europe now days.

Swiss voters ‘back ban on building of minarets’ - Times Online

Swiss voters ‘back ban on building of minarets’

(Salvatore Di Nolfi/Keystone/AP)

There are four minarets in Switzerland. Proposals to build one in Berne prompted the vote



    
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Swiss voters appear to have defied their Government and churches today and approved a national ban on the construction of minarets.
Early results showed that 57 per cent of voters had backed the proposal, ensuring international embarrassment for Switzerland and a possible backlash in the Muslim world. A majority of the 27 cantons supported the move, according to partial results.
“The initiative would appear to have been accepted, there is a positive trend. It is a huge surprise,” said French-language Swiss television said after polls closed at midday.
The referendum was launched by the nationalist Swiss People’s Party (SVP), the largest group in Parliament, after residents opposed the construction of a minaret in a town north of Berne, the capital.

  The approval is the latest act by European voters in support of anti-immigrant  parties, following electoral successes over the last decade by far-right  parties in Austria, the Netherlands and France.  

The Swiss Government, the business world and most churches had urged the country to reject a proposal that they said breached the Swiss constitution and its guarantees of freedom of religion. The proposal, to ban the construction of minarets in the Swiss constitution, would only “serve the interests of extremist circles”, the Government said.
The ‘yes’ vote, if confirmed, shows the strength of feeling against a Muslim population which has grown over the past 20 years to 350,000 or four per cent of the population. The majority are not regular practitioners of their faith. Most are from Turkey and the Balkans.
Only four modest-sized minarets exist in Switzerland, where there are 150 prayer houses. None are used to call the faithful to prayer.
The SVP used the issue openly as an assault on what it depicts as the inroads of political Islam in Switzerland.
“We just want to stop further Islamisation in Switzerland,” Walter Wobmann, head of a committee of initiative backers, said today.
The SVP’s campaign used shock posters showing a burka-clad woman and a Swiss flag bristling with menacing minarets. The party also used for its campaign a remark by Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister, in which he said that minarets are the “bayonets of Islam”.
The vote was in sharp contrast to opinion polls which showed that a steady 53-54 per cent would reject the referendum. SVP leaders had predicted that people were not revealing their true voting intentions.
Ulrich Schluer, an SVP MP who drafted the initiative, told The Times in Berne last week that he was certain of approval. “We are still at the beginning of the process. We compare our situation to Germany, France or England and the problems they have in their suburbs,” he said. “That is what we do not want here.”
The SVP rejects the Government view that a ban would breach the law on freedom of religion. “Mosques are not part of freedom of religion. This is not against Islam. The minaret is a symbol of political power,” Mr Schluer said.
The Swiss political world is worried about the prospects of a worldwide Muslim backlash of the kind that hit Denmark after the affair of the Muhammad cartoons.
“Swiss-made”, the most trusted brand image in the world, is at stake, say business leaders. Gerold Burhrer, president of the Swiss Business Federation, has reminded the country that it earns £10 billion a year from Muslim countries and that Geneva alone received 174,500 visits from the Gulf last year.
The referendum result, if confirmed, is certain to be challenged in the courts as a breach of the constitution. Amnesty International and other campaign groups had warned that the Swiss initiative would breach the norms of international human rights.
It will also be seen as further evidence of Switzerland’s desire to resist political integration with the rest of Europe. This has been manifested by the rise of the SVP and growing grass-roots hostility towards the European Union. Switzerland narrowly rejected EU membership 19 years ago and mainstream politicians acknowledge that there would be little chance of approval now.

Re: Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

So much for "human rights" ... wait till some Islamic country make it mandatory to wear hijab. All human righ champions will come out of hibernating!

We will not hear anything from British, French, US and other European nations's foreign ministries neither will UN human rights commissioners push it hard

Ummm...Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Malaysia....

Whatever these Nations are banning is coz of ALLAH's commands, how the hell kuffar nations dare to ban anything to muslims? I see grave human rights violations in all these European Nations.

yeah and now lets see if Switzerland gets the same bashing from human rights champions as the countries you mentioned get.

Before jumping the gun just make sure what I was saying. all these countries gets good bashing from human right champions (including official and non-official entities). Lets see if Swiss gets the same.

Likes of Saudi Arabia and Sudan are rightly bashed by humanists just because they have set high standards of human rights state-sponsored violations. comparing them with swiss actions wont be judicious. Its all the result of Islamphobia and actions of muslims is responsible for that.

My humble opinion only, I may be wrong too.

Is Minaret a "fard" for us to have.

What if we say a prayer in a room that was "borrowed" and happens to be located in a church or synagogue?

Will Allah not accept our prayers?

Why us Pakistanis are hell bent to live and die in confronting and quarreling and frothing in our mouths, and yelling and screaming, and cursing?

Just calm down logo.

Our teenage boys cannot handle this pressure, and they will destroy themselves in suicide bombings like 7/7 or Glasgow airport burnings.

It is time to stop screaming. Otherwise we'll not have a successful set of future generations.

Learn from Palestinians and other Arab and African primitive tribals and Afghanis.

You must live a calm life. otherwise God will take away what you have.

And you will be left with nothing, and you will be turned into beggars. and your future generations will live and die in a hellish environment read ghettos.

Calm down please.

Re: Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

^ I think it's you who needs to calm down.

Anyway they can ban scarfs and minarets and what the hell they can ban but they can't stop Muslims from being Muslim.

Re: Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

There are total 4 minerates in Switzerland, shows muslims themselves have not beenkeen on building them. Its strange how it became so important for Swiss an issue requiringa refrendum.

In order to be Muslim, one needs only the following:

  1. Belief in Allah
  2. Belief that Muhammad pbuh is His messenger.

Anything else is local/cultural/temporary/optional/open to discussion and thus will not and cannot be considered as a fundamental condition to make a Muslim a Muslim.

So one should check if they truly believe in Allah. And they are good for this life and the life hereafter.

Minaret or a rag/towel/topi/hat for someone's head are trivial at best.

Its not the matter of WHAT is Islam and What is not. Its the matter of human rights that we are discussing and discrimination of human rights champions.

Is Cross a basic pillar of Christianity? Wait till someone bans the crosses in some country to hear the hibernating human rights champions wake up.

BTW, I personally am totally against forcing someone to wear hijab or topi but at the same time, I am totally agasint forcing someone to NOT wear hijab or topi. I dont discriminate in this but human rights champions do.

I am sure this can be struck down in Swiss courts and should be.

Re: Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

I don't think its worth while for muslims to take to the courts, for minarete was not part of mosque that Prophet saw built. However the move does show Islamophobia.

I am sure "some" human right activist will take it to court. I believe it will not stand the requirement of EU human rights laws either.

Re: Swiss voters 'back ban on building of minarets'

I don;t think Swiss are in EU.

The best thing for muslims to do will be to tell them we don't really bother about minarets.

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i thought the swiss had the best standard of living, highly educated, with the best private schools... but they are claiming some ridiculous things

  1. islam wants to take over the world

  2. there are no churches in muslim countries

this is a victory for far right parties that will try to spread this across europe

OK.

Here is the list of “universal declaration”. Please enlighten us which of these rights will

  1. be supported if a mosque has a minaret vs. a mosque that doesn’t have a minaret

  2. be denied if a mosques has no minaret vs. a mosque has a minaret.

That is. Which option will impact a Muslim’s right to practice his religion?

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

  1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

  2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

  3. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

  4. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

  5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

  6. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

  7. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of the Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

  8. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

  9. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

  10. Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

  11. Everyone charged with a penal offense has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.

  12. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offense on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offense, under national or international law, at the time it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offense was committed.

  13. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honor and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

  14. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

  15. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

  16. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

  17. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

  18. Everyone has the right to a nationality.

  19. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

  20. Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

  21. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

  22. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

  23. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.

  24. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

  25. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

  26. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression: this right
    includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

  27. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

  28. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

  29. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.

  30. Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

  31. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

  32. Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co- operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

  33. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favorable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

  34. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

  35. Everyone who works has the right to just and favorable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

  36. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

  37. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

  38. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

  39. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

  40. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

  41. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

  42. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

  43. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

  44. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

  45. Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

  46. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

  47. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

  48. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

  49. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

first of all either you are not getting it or you dont want to get it. Its not about if "Minarets" are required by islam or not (or if a person will be less muslim without Minarets) its about country law spelling out "M U S L I M S cant do ...."

Now to start with ..it voilates 2nd point in this (I did not go though all other ...). Why just muslims? isnt this a distinction on basis of RELIGION? I can consider it FAIR if they say from now on Muslims will not build Minarates, Chistians will not build Cross, Jews will not put star and hundus will not show small mortee of Got on top of the building but NO .. ONLY MUSLIMS cant everyone else can.

Will Christan be a LESS christian if he goes to church that does not have cross sign on the roof? Or hundu be a less hindu if there is no small bhagwan at the top of the building just for identification that its a temple?

Both, depending on the subject at hand.

hahaha.

Oh bhai, do you know how to read?

Article #2 refers to other articles in the list. May be you are talking about Yau-man rights and not human rights.

Go shabash. Read first and then come back.