sunni's praying in a shia mosque..

[AnGeL_EyEs]

Re: sunni’s praying in a shia mosque..

@armughal

^ havent heard of any problem of praying behind a shiaa…
until the person u have heard it from comes with a clear proof that praying behind shiaa is not allowed, assume it otherwise…

i have been…that’s what i usually do about anything.

[Captain1]

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@armughal

shiaas have prayed behind me as their imaam, but i have never seen any sunni pray behind a shiaa…
i once prayed in a shiaa mosque, there was no jamaat there, i prayed alone, but my friend who was with me refused to enter the mosque even…
he missed the prayer but wud not enter a shiaa mosque to pray…

i dont think there shud be any problem praying behind a shiaa…
they have the same arkaan of prayers as all muslims and whatever the difference, it is just on the fiqh that they follow…
after all, we do pray after ppl who follow other fiqh (e.e. hanafis praying behinf shaafis, malikis praying behind hanbalis) and fiqh jaafaria is just another fiqh…

wallaho aa’lam bissawab…

What about Ahmadis/Qadianis? I think their salaat is also 100% same (per my knowledge) as of Sunnis, can we offer salaat behind them as well?

In Pakistan, perhaps after the emergence of Sipah-e-Sahaba, many scholars (not-affiliated with SSP) formed opinion that Sunnis can’t pray behind a Shia, though one of big moulanas (Noorani or Fazalur Rehman) prayed behind a big congregation but later on it was said that it was just to promote “peace”.

[armughal]

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^ i do not consider ahmadis/qadiyanis as muslims and hence do not see their prayers proper in whatever manner they pray, so the question of praying behind such ppl does not arise, but if someone thinks that they r praying proper he/she shud feel free to pray behind them....

[Captain1]

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@armughal

^ i do not consider ahmadis/qadiyanis as muslims and hence do not see their prayers proper in whatever manner they pray, so the question of praying behind such ppl does not arise, but if someone thinks that they r praying proper he/she shud feel free to pray behind them…

same is said when questioning prayers behind other sect in Pakistan, Shias and Sunnis consider each other as kaafir.

[armughal]

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^ depends on what u think, if u consider someone to be a kafir then there is no point praying behind him....

but if u dont, no harm in praying behind a fellow muslim....

[Princess_Fiona]

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why dont u ppl understand this.. there is not difference between suni and shia... it is absolutly fine to pray in shia's mosque..

[Iconoclast]

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Well it depends what type of shia is leading the prayer. There are certain, who have such foul mouths that i won't pray behind them.

[shweetdreamz]

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tsk tsk ...and i thought prayer was all about worshipping our creator....

[ravage]

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@Captain1

same is said when questioning prayers behind other sect in Pakistan, Shias and Sunnis consider each other as kaafir.

not really. a very small segment of sunnis considers shias kaffir, and most shias dont consider sunnis kaffir, for example all shias do hajj/umra where they pray behind a wahhabi imam, who would be the person they have the most disagreement with.

[FrozenFire]

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@shweetdreamz

tsk tsk …and i thought prayer was all about worshipping our creator…

thats what I was thinking..

[Iconoclast]

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^ U cannot take any aera ghera as Imam, there is a Hadeeth about whp should be preferred for Imamat.

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for example all shias do hajj/umra where they pray behind a wahhabi imam, who would be the person they have the most disagreement with

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They do stand in the line, but there intention(Niyyat) is to pray alone(Furaada).

[FrozenFire]

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@Captain1

What about Ahmadis/Qadianis? I think their salaat is also 100% same (per my knowledge) as of Sunnis, can we offer salaat behind them as well?
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How come their salaat is 100% as urs and still kaafir…

[Captain1]

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@ravage

not really. a very small segment of sunnis considers shias kaffir, and most shias dont consider sunnis kaffir, for example all shias do hajj/umra where they pray behind a wahhabi imam, who would be the person they have the most disagreement with.

I am afraid not, I have talked to a ‘diverse’ number of ‘religious’ figures… there was a reason ‘Sipahe Sahaba Pakistan’ came into existence and had a huge following very quickly (not just cuz of funding), also Moulana Fazlur Rehman prayed behind one of Shia Imams in a congregation “publicly” and later on said that it was only to promote “peace” and he had “re-prayed” the salat afterwards.

[Captain1]

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@FrozenFire

How come their salaat is 100% as urs and still kaafir…

Well, lets not discuss the kaafir issue here, it has been discussed before many a times.

[FrozenFire]

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@Captain1

Well, lets not discuss the kaafir issue here, it has been discussed before many a times.

no im no where close to discussing that issue, but still ..if salaat is 100% the same as other muslims then why even consider them kaafir and on the other hand shia’s pray differently and still be called muslims.. I just failed to understand this logic.

[Captain1]

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@FrozenFire

no im no where close to discussing that issue, but still ..if salaat is 100% the same as other muslims then why even consider them kaafir and on the other hand shia’s pray differently and still be called muslims.. I just failed to understand this logic.

I don’t think Shias are praying differently. The guarantee of being a Muslim or non-Muslim is not in how you say your salaat, you’ll have to refer to Quran to find that out… its in the ‘belief’.

[Sadiyah]

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Read a similar fatwa elsewhere, but sort of asked the question for confirmation. Here's what the scholar from Islamtoday.com has to say:

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Question:

Assalamo alaykum, Is it okay for Sunni Muslims to offer salah in jamah behind a Shia, or at a Shia mosque? WasSalaam, Sadiyah

The Answer:

By Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî

Former Professor at Imam University

Entering Paradise is an issue of the Unseen. We cannot delve into such matters. All we can say that the people on the Sunnah are on the truth while what the Shi`ah are following contains a mixture of truth and falsehood. Among their false claims is their belief in the infallibility of their imams, their derogation of the Companions, and their seeking refuge from the deceased, which are unlawful acts. We ask Allah to bring them to pure guidance.

We cannot say that all Shîah are unbelievers. On the other hand, there are some sects of the Shîah who innovated some claims that are tantamount to disbelief. Whoever believes such chaims are unbelievers whether they belong to the Shîah or not. For example, anyone who accuses the Companions of hypocrisy while the Qur’ân told us they are believers and Allah is pleased with them is an unbeliever. Allah says: “Allah’s good pleasure was on the believers when they swore fealty to thee under the tree”. Whoever slandersÂ’ishah is, in fact, an unbeliever and rejects the sacred text, the Qur’ân, and derogates the Prophecy. Those who say that the Qur’ân has been corrupted is indeed rejecting Islam.

There are many other deviant acts and beliefs associated with the different Shîah sects that, however, do not constitute unbelief, so no one can claim that the adherents of all the various Shîah sects are unbelievers.

We cannot pray behind someone among them whose unbelief has become clear to us.

May Allah guide you.
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[zer01]

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^^ LOL Typical Wahabi, dose'nt even know whats written in Muslim, Bukhari and other sacred text.

Wait, Former Professor? I can understand why :p

BTW is Islamtoday.com an authrity on islam, if yes then according to what school of thought?

[ravage]

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^ zero1 they’re salafi believe.

@Iconoclast

They do stand in the line, but there intention(Niyyat) is to pray alone(Furaada).

dont know which shias you’ve been talking to. i never pray furadaa, and sheraz posted the fatwa of one of the most followed shia ayatollah to the extent that its okay to pray behind a sunni in congregation.

captain1, i’ve spoken a “diverse” group of people too in my life in pakistan, and i dont think ssp or wahhabism/salafism or saudi inspired interpretations has a very large following, even though it has grown. pakistan is primarily traditional sunni.

[Thaqib]

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assalamo alaikum

In the Hanafi Madhab, which the Sunnis of Pakistan follow, it is a ruling that you cannot pray behind a shi'a of any sect.
For details please refer to Darul 'uloom Amjadia, Karachi.
Da'wate Islami Markaz, Karachi.
Idara Darul 'uloom Naimia, Karachi.

As to praying inside a shi'a masjid, then this is a separate fiqhi issue. To obtain a ruling based on the Hanafi madhab on this issue, it is best to refer to the above schools, at least for those who live Karachi or are in contact there.
Thaqib