Watch the video!
And a question for you all; have you or someone close to you ever considered suicide? what made you/or him/her reconsider it?
What would YOU tell a random stranger if he was trying to commit suicide?
And the last q…what are ur general thoughts about suicide? For example..do you have no empathy for those persons cuz u think theyre pussies/losers, or do you feel sad for them..or…??? Tell us!
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Are you planning on it…:o
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Suicide is haram. Enough said.
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I never understood this word "Haram" ...... Usually a followed by...Zadi/zada.... But..... Hmmmmmmh.....Some word....
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I never understood this word "Haram" ...... Usually a followed by...Zadi/zada.... But..... Hmmmmmmh.....Some word....
Haram= things that are unlawful and forbidden in Islam.
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Havent seen the video yet but its a good question.
I'm not a pyschologist but anyone wishing suicide for him/herself is more coming from a sad and depressing scenario. So the key element would be to come out of depression or bring your loved ones out of that depressing modes where they really arent on their own. They just can do anything including suicide.
One of the better ways would always be to motivate them, to make them count all the blessings whether physical or otherwise. And then all the good options they have got to make their lives better.
Its one of the worst condition when one person goes so deep down in anxiety and depression that he/she starts getting suicidal thoughts.
And NO, just saying that suicide is haram, is definitely not enough. A person in worst state of depression needs far more than a religious fatwa. A very big effort of consolation and motivation is required which can actually be a real struggle.
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Haram= things that are unlawful and forbidden in Islam.
Wasn't asking in reference to Islam Gemini.... Just general wondering...Khair hai... So....have u ever stopped someone...from doing that...;)
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Havent seen the video yet but its a good question.
I'm not a pyschologist but anyone wishing suicide for him/herself is more coming from a sad and depressing scenario. So the key element would be to come out of depression or bring your loved ones out of that depressing modes where they really arent on their own. They just can do anything including suicide. *One of the better ways would always be to motivate them, to make them count all the blessings whether physical or otherwise. And then all the good options they have got to make their lives better. * Its one of the worst condition when one person goes so deep down in anxiety and depression that he/she starts getting suicidal thoughts.
And NO, just saying that suicide is haram, is definitely not enough. A person in worst state of depression needs far more than a religious fatwa. A very big effort of consolation and motivation is required which can actually be a real struggle.
That never works......
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Havent seen the video yet but its a good question.
I'm not a pyschologist but anyone wishing suicide for him/herself is more coming from a sad and depressing scenario. So the key element would be to come out of depression or bring your loved ones out of that depressing modes where they really arent on their own. They just can do anything including suicide. One of the better ways would always be to motivate them, to make them count all the blessings whether physical or otherwise. And then all the good options they have got to make their lives better.
Its one of the worst condition when one person goes so deep down in anxiety and depression that he/she starts getting suicidal thoughts.
And NO, just saying that suicide is haram, is definitely not enough. A person in worst state of depression needs far more than a religious fatwa. A very big effort of consolation and motivation is required which can actually be a real struggle.
I havent watched the video either, just btw.
A person usually considers suicide when he thinks that he is trapped, and there is now way out, and the only way to escape the sufferings is death. If he is a Muslim, and is still contemplating suicide, it means he is feeling so hopeless that he would rather be in hell or aalam e barzakh than stuck in his present situation. Or maybe he thinks he wont end up in hell after all, because according to him suicide seems to be the only way out.
Now, if you tell him he is doomed, and he will burn in hell because suicide is haram, chances are he wont listen. But if you tell him why suicide is haram, why hopelessness is a sin, why patience is a virtue, how dua changes destiny, he might understand.
I find it funny how people put Islam aside sometimes. Islam is a way of life. By all means get professional help if needed. But dismissing everything that is related to religion and tagging it as fatwa doesnt make sense.
Suicide rate is much higher in USA and Canada than Pakistan, even though people there have more access to sociologists and psychologists, and even though there are a lot more problems in Pakistan. I am pretty sure religions has something to do with it.
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Wasn't asking in reference to Islam Gemini.... Just general wondering...Khair hai... So....have u ever stopped someone...from doing that...;)
What were you asking then?
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Its never easy to give up..obviously there must be a height of or last stage of depression thats the person suffering..
I really feel sorry for those who commit suicide..i ask Allah to forgive us and forgive those who committed suicide..Ameen
Its best to sit in gathering rather than sit alone..when you are suffering with depression..its indeed shaitan who whispers such kind of evil thoughts..so better to sit in a company of people and talk as much as you can..infact telling your problem to other is better than keeping yourself quite...
I always pray for those who commits suicide and then died..recently heard a death of young guy ..had 1 year old son..Allah knows what people suffers..only Allah knows..may Allah protect us from shaitan and increase our emaan and may Allah subhan wa ta'alla help those who are struggling with depression, anxiety or any kind of psychological illness Ameen
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I havent watched the video either, just btw.
A person usually considers suicide when he thinks that he is trapped, and there is now way out, and the only way to escape the sufferings is death. If he is a Muslim, and is still contemplating suicide, it means he is feeling so hopeless that he would rather be in hell or aalam e barzakh than stuck in his present situation. Or maybe he thinks he wont end up in hell after all, because according to him suicide seems to be the only way out.
Now, if you tell him he is doomed, and he will burn in hell because suicide is haram, chances are he wont listen. But if you tell him why suicide is haram, why hopelessness is a sin, why patience is a virtue, how dua changes destiny, he might understand.
I find it funny how people put Islam aside sometimes. Islam is a way of life. By all means get professional help if needed. But dismissing everything that is related to religion and tagging it as fatwa doesnt make sense.
Suicide rate is much higher in USA and Canada than Pakistan, even though people there have more access to sociologists and psychologists, and even though there are a lot more problems in Pakistan. I am pretty sure religions has something to do with it.
Umm..few things right while few wrong as per my opinion and ofcourse i can be wrong like anyone else.
you are right when you say that a person is kinda trapped when he starts thinking of suicide. I put it in this way that he/she starts considering himself as in dark hole , and there is no way out so all he can do is to jump further dive in and finish himself to get out of misery.
Now pulling him out of hat condition is a real uphill task. It needs a lot of effort and determination. So one needs to say all what I'd said in earlier post, dont feel like repeating here. And yes then on the top of it you can add that religiously suicide is haram and u'll get eternal punishment for that. But honestly if he's considering suicide he'll probably think you are speaking German to him.
I think If he's like a real good muslim he'll definitely not even think about suicide.
But this condition of depression and anxiety has very little to do with religion. And if you are trying to help such person, consider him as a human person and then later touch the religious side of him/her.
Now comparison b/w suicide rates of Pakistan with Canada/US is soo wrong. Its like apples and oranges. You think people dont commit suicide much in Pakistan becuz they are great muslims? Now wut about the ratio of other crimes? I'm sure murder rate is far more in Pak than here so wut about that?
Wrong comparison, wrong results..its that simple.
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I think If he's like a real good muslim he'll definitely not even think about suicide.
Agreed.
But this condition of depression and anxiety has very little to do with religion.
Depression has a lot to do with hopelessness. And a person usually loses hope when he thinks there is no way out, we need to remind him that everything is possible for Allah.
Now comparison b/w suicide rates of Pakistan with Canada/US is soo wrong. Its like apples and oranges. You think people dont commit suicide much in Pakistan becuz they are great muslims? Now wut about the ratio of other crimes? I'm sure murder rate is far more in Pak than here so wut about that? Wrong comparison, wrong results..its that simple.
When considering any action, we must keep rewards (worldly/religious), punishments, and motives in mind.
If you want to kill someone in America, chances are you wont be able to escape. In Pakistan, not only will you get away with it, but you will also get some worldly reward (like money).
In US/Canada, people dont believe in life after death. So suicide= the end.
In Pakistan, even a bad Muslim, even a murder, knows there is a life after death. So suicide= no worldly gains + eternal punishment. Total loss.
Thats my logic anyway =p
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I don't think...Op asked only for Muslims...or just Muslim friends... So...Solutions will be required for all friends...regardless of their faith....
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Umm..few things right while few wrong as per my opinion and ofcourse i can be wrong like anyone else.
you are right when you say that a person is kinda trapped when he starts thinking of suicide. I put it in this way that he/she starts considering himself as in dark hole , and there is no way out so all he can do is to jump further dive in and finish himself to get out of misery. Now pulling him out of hat condition is a real uphill task. It needs a lot of effort and determination. So one needs to say all what I'd said in earlier post, dont feel like repeating here. And yes then on the top of it you can add that religiously suicide is haram and u'll get eternal punishment for that. But honestly if he's considering suicide he'll probably think you are speaking German to him. I think If he's like a real good muslim he'll definitely not even think about suicide. But this condition of depression and anxiety has very little to do with religion. And if you are trying to help such person, consider him as a human person and then later touch the religious side of him/her.
Now comparison b/w suicide rates of Pakistan with Canada/US is soo wrong. Its like*** apples and oranges. ***You think people dont commit suicide much in Pakistan becuz they are great muslims? Now wut about the ratio of other crimes? I'm sure murder rate is far more in Pak than here so wut about that? Wrong comparison, wrong results..its that simple.
That has already been used in Indian girls and paki girls comparison thread...:p