One of my friend is on the verge of giving up and frustration in her life nothing is good in her life.
She said she will kill her self any time.
She knows it’s haram.
She was asking me is there anything that ke uski maghfirat ho jaye after she kill her self?
I cant help her and I know she is way too much frustrate she will do it,so is there something which can help her after her death?
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yes i heard that there is no magfirat after suicide is that right?
kinz please dont tell her even if there is magfirat after suicide you may save a life right?
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Peace Kinzz
You can help her ... You can ask her to break her legs instead ... Take her around to the poor and handicapped people who don't live in houses and don't have income. If she has nothing then breaking her legs will not be a large cost.
In the 80s my dad saw a man doing tawaf ... He had no legs, just a stump for a single arm. He was dragging himself without help around doing his worship.
Show her real strife of people having their sons killed and families decimated. There is bound to be an example of real hope that she can thrive from ... It should embarrass a person to think of suicide because they will realise if they get out from under themselves the world contains many people in bigger strife than them ... And when asked "how are you?" they reply ... "Alhumdillah" ...
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Peace Kinzz
You can help her ... You can ask her to break her legs instead ... Take her around to the poor and handicapped people who don't live in houses and don't have income. If she has nothing then breaking her legs will not be a large cost.
In the 80s my dad saw a man doing tawaf ... He had no legs, just a stump for a single arm. He was dragging himself without help around doing his worship.
Show her real strife of people having their sons killed and families decimated. There is bound to be an example of real hope that she can thrive from ... It should embarrass a person to think of suicide because they will realise if they get out from under themselves the world contains many people in bigger strife than them ... And when asked "how are you?" they reply ... "Alhumdillah" ...
psyah bhai as you are here please let us know...
weather committing suicide results in eternal punishment...is there any chance of magfirat?
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Peace kinzz,
You can help her by taking her from her frustration. Take her to a good physiatrist or admit her into rehabilitation classes where she meets those pplz who actually wants to give up from his or her life. Let her listen/share views. Maybe this is how she'll change her mind.
Now coming to the part of 'maghfirat'. It is clearly stated in hadith that those who kill themselve will live eternally in hell and there is no maghfirat of his or her.
Almighty Allah knows best.
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that which has been stated clearly is apparent......however, Allah has repeatedly stated that he is merciful so only He can decide which rule will apply at the time of judgement.
there are so many other ways to help this person......some great examples have been mentioned here.
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The person in question needs help, for sure.
But Shirk is the only sin that has no maghfirat. For every other sin, we can count on Allah's qualities of being Rehman and Raheem.
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theres no maghfirat for suicide
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psyah bhai as you are here please let us know...
weather committing suicide results in eternal punishment...is there any chance of magfirat?
Peace ninja hattori
If a person dies in accordance with the plan of Allah (SWT) then they rest and become resurrected and it appears like a few days for them ... however, if a person takes their own life in a strange hope to ESCAPE from the torments of life ... instead they are binding themselves to another torment ...
Whoever commits suicide they will continue doing that act to themselves until the Day when judgement comes ...
So imagine that someone has jumped from a bridge and gets killed under a train - lots of pain? right ... short? no .... they will keep doing that jump and keep getting killed by that train over and over and over again ...
Maghfirat is the question that comes later ... the whole reason for suicide is lack of belief in the "test" that Allah (SWT) has put us in ... to die in that state is kufr - isn't it? If there is a small ray of hope then yes Allah (SWT) is GhafooruRaheem ... but my question is if a person can't deal with the SMALL problems in this life - then how can they deal with all that that comes later?
This world is the low world - all pleasures here are low and insignificant (so don't get so excited if you have everything you need) and all pains here are low and insignificant (so don't lose focus and hope)
Allah (SWT) never puts his people in this life in to a position they cannot bear ... (But those who take their lives THEY DON'T GIVE THEMSELVES A CHANCE TO EVEN TRY)
After every difficulty there is ease upon ease .... so be patient !!!
But these are sayings for this life - the afterlife can be a lot more difficult - so only seek to go back if you are sure that you are gonna be fine ... And who can be so reckless to be so sure that Allah (SWT) will not be Just to them?
Thank you psyah bhai 
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Can you elaborate on the issues that your friend is having?
Where is her support structure i.e her family, friends?
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theres no maghfirat for suicide
show me the reference
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^ yes please provide a reference.
and while we are on the subject....is namaz janaza observed for a person that has taken his/her own life?
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^ yes please provide a reference.
and while we are on the subject....is namaz janaza observed for a person that has taken his/her own life?
I've been in namaaz-e-janaza of such person.
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I've been in namaaz-e-janaza of such person.
okay.....I guess that answers that question. (but then again a woman lead prayers in Toronto....didn't make it right.)
is there some debate on this matter? some differing positions?
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okay.....I guess that answers that question. (but then again a woman lead prayers in Toronto....didn't make it right.) is there some debate on this matter? some differing positions?
This is the fatwa that I am aware of.
The one who killed himself should be washed and the funeral prayer offered for him, and he should be buried with the Muslims, because he is a sinner, but he is not a kaafir; killing oneself is a sin, it is not kufr.
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This is the fatwa that I am aware of.
The one who killed himself should be washed and the funeral prayer offered for him, and he should be buried with the Muslims, because he is a sinner, but he is not a kaafir; killing oneself is a sin, it is not kufr.
Thanks.
I will have to pass this info along in some circles.....
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I will reply all of you in details.
For now here is a question for muzna baaji n Tlk bhai..
How about people who die in air crash,no gusul, no kafan, no janaza namaz?
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I will reply all of you in details.
For now here is a question for muzna baaji n Tlk bhai..
How about people who die in air crash,no gusul, no kafan, no janaza namaz?
You always find bodies from air crash. Even mid air crash of TWA 800 had bodies found floating in Atlantic ocean.
The real question would be, how will you figure out if the person was Muslim or not, especially if the body is female.
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^ How is a male Muslim’s body different than a non-Muslims? 
This topic has always interested me. how do we know there is no forgiveness for a person who commits suicide? When we know for a fact that the only unforgive-able thing is shirk…how can one say that a person who commits suicide will go to hell forever? (NOT a suicide bomber…as all hte info I’ve ever found is on them…and not suicide out of depression)